trumpet flower for ID :: Vythiri, Wayanad :: 13 NOV 19

[Dinesh Valke]

... at a resort  in Vythiri, Wayanad Date: November 13, 2019 ... Altitude: about 700 m (2,300 ft) asl

trumpet flower for ID   Dear friends, Not able to make out this member of Bignoniaceae, the flower measured about 3 cm wide. I am not sure the structures in photos 3 & 4 - whether they are galls. Please help.

Regards. Dinesh

[ushadi]

there are a few examples in plant pathology of galls that may develop

thorn like/spikes on surface of round galls

one such is on willow leaves

and on forsythia twigs 

and an interesting paper from Noroth carolina college... NC STATE

Regards

Ushadi

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Usha di, for the links to pictures and to page with information.

Regards.

Dinesh

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[Nidhan Singh]

Interesting upload Dinesh Ji, even if they are galls, the consistency in shape and size is astonishing....fruit is not characteristic of family to which I suppose it belongs..

Really a unique structure..!! Hopefully it gets identified..

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Dr. Nidhan Singh

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Dinesh Ji,

It is Allamanda cathartica and the round balls with spikes are the fruits.

I have it in my Nasik home garden.

Fruits are not common, but occasionally you get one.

Had seen some in Lalbagh too.

Regards,

Aarti

[ushadi]

the fruit matches internet photos of Allamnda cathartica

but most flowers show a narrower long tube below the wider tube

different sp or variety?

Aarti

did you show us the case? of your plant?

thread url if any

thanks

Regards

Ushadi

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[ushadi]

i just found a thread that exactly matches with DInesh's flower and fruit picture

by our member, Ranjini Kamath

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/ocgMcsek628

how could i have forgotten it?

anyway we do have several cases

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/allamanda/allamanda-cathartica

Regards

Ushadi

[Mahadeswara]

These are the real fruits of Allamanda.  I have seen such fruits in my house garden.  Right now I do not have the photographs.  Most probably the plant in question is a  variety  of  an Allamanda species.

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 6:26:48 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:

[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very much Aarti ji and Mahadeswara ji for the ID.

Thanks very much Nidhan ji and Usha di.

This is again a prize find for me. Never seen or expected Allamanda to fruit like this !

Regards.

Dinesh

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[J.M. Garg]

Allamanda schottii as per discussions at Flower for ID: Hyderabad July13-NAW02

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Garg ji for pointing to this ID. I have labelled my photos at flickr accordingly.

These ornamentals can be tricky to go as per descriptions of any one aspect like flowers - that is what I think. So many cultivars and hybrids, that their aspects may not match the actual species. Allamanda schottii to me as I understood when I labelled my first observation was - its habit was bushy, with linear leaves like that of Nerium.

The posted plant is standing tall about 5 feet or so, with diffused branching, and leaves are elliptic. I express my point so that experts can throw more light whether these are variations of A. schotti OR do we need to label them as some hybrid or cultivar.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Dinesh ji,
I think difference pointed out by Singh ji, is very much correct.

Pl. check efi pages of both. And you will realise the difference quite clearly.

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[Dinesh Valke]

Ok, thanks Garg ji.

Regards.

Dinesh

[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji, Dinesh Ji,

I had seen similar flowers in the Atlanta Botanical Garden.

Will check if I have missed posting them earlier.

They did look a bit different than the Yellow Allamanda flowers we see commonly.

Regards,

Aarti