Help me to identify this plant- 110921SA1

[J.M. Garg]

Segregating posts clubbed due to same subject from Shakir ji:

Location:Kupwara j&k

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[Madhusudhan Khanal]

By the morphology of inflorescence the plant specimen resambles Spiranthes , a member of the Orchidaceae family. Looks like two species of the same genera. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks and welcome, Madhusudhan ji

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

By the morphology of inflorescence the plant specimen resambles Spiranthes , a member of the Orchidaceae family. Looks like two species of the same genera.- from Madhusudhan ji

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[Pankaj Kumar]

I see two orchids here, one with pink flowers that seem like Spiranthes sinensis but can't be confirmed without dissection. Same goes to the second which looks like Goodyera marginata. I also need to see the leaves of second plant.

Please remember that we are here to help you, but if you can't provide a detailed picture then our identification could well be very wrong.

Thanks and regards

Pankaj

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[Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist)]

Thank you sir... Sure I will, provide details images soon

[Pankaj Kumar]

https://phytokeys.pensoft.net/article/19978/

Please check this paper for further details of Spiranthes sinensis.

Pankaj

[Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist)]

Thank you so much Pankaj sir. 

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Shakir ji,

Awaiting detailed images. 

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[Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist)]

Yes, I am working on it. 

[Gurcharan Singh]

Spiranthes should be S. sinensis, only species reported from Kashmir

Similarly second if Goodyera, should be G. repens, only reported from Kashmir.

[Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist)]

Thank you so much sir

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji

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On Tue, 21 Sep, 2021, 12:53 pm Gurcharan Singh, <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Garg ji and Shakir ji

As Pankaj ji informs, their paper on Goodyera published in 2019, most specimens identified as G. repens in W. Himalayas are G. marginata, differentiated by  robust stature, bigger leaves with regularly white reticulate markings above and white band along midvein, nearly glabrous and larger flowers, white band along midvein lacking in G. repens, flowers smaller and hairy.

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

I am so confused with these leaves. It has no marking.

I need to see more habitat pics with leaves.

Pankaj

[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Image  5 is Goodyera repens (L.) R.Br.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Image 4 : It should be Spiranthes australis (R.Br.) Lindl. since only this species has got distribution

according to the World Plant.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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[Pankaj Kumar]

I think it is Spiranthes hongkongensis which is also reported from Nepal.

Australis is white with larger and broader flowers. 

I need to see the leaves of Goodyera for the species. Goodyera repens and G. marginata and others are also found in Himalaya.

Best regards

Pankaj

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Dr.Kumar,

This is not from Nepal. 

https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/tPo1AGmmNnY/m/MfqdR2caAwAJ

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Saroj Kasaju

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[Pankaj Kumar]

Ok sir my mistake.

In that case it is not easy to confirm without dissection. Inflorescence appears hairy. Australis is usually white with larger flowers and the labellum mid lobe is large, bend downwards.

This doesnt appear like that. It may happen that flowers are not fresh.

Pankaj