Rubus rugosus Sm. ??

Saroj Kasaju

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Aug 3, 2018, 9:05:13 AM8/3/18

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Dear Members,

Location: Nagarkot, Nepal

Date: 11 June 2018

Altitude: 6500 ft.

Habit : Wild

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Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Thanks, Saroj ji, for the wonderful close ups.

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you Mr. Garg!

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Aug 12, 2018, 9:11:05 AM8/12/18

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To me appears close to images at Rubus moluccanus

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 28, 2018, 6:38:43 AM10/28/18

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Dear Mr. Garg,

All images showing red fruit in the net.

http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Wild%20Raspberry.html

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 28, 2018, 7:30:38 AM10/28/18

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https://www.google.com.np/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstephenryan.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2FRubus-rugosa.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstephenryan.com.au%2Frubus-rugosus%2F&docid=5ISTFPz2C4-B6M&tbnid=iTGRBvc8XO-y5M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjhrPL4-KjeAhVFsY8KHfwRBgQQMwhAKAIwAg..i&w=506&h=640&bih=501&biw=1093&q=rubus%20rugosus%20fruit&ved=0ahUKEwjhrPL4-KjeAhVFsY8KHfwRBgQQMwhAKAIwAg&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com.np/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftree.daleysfruit.com.au%2Fb%2FKeriberry.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.daleysfruit.com.au%2Fplant%2FKeriberry.htm&docid=7_6j7OXFHiW28M&tbnid=lEINadNYFZde5M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjhrPL4-KjeAhVFsY8KHfwRBgQQMwhBKAMwAw..i&w=1100&h=1509&bih=501&biw=1093&q=rubus%20rugosus%20fruit&ved=0ahUKEwjhrPL4-KjeAhVFsY8KHfwRBgQQMwhBKAMwAw&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com.np/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fd1%2FBlackberries_on_bush.jpg%2F220px-Blackberries_on_bush.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRubus&docid=xAp_I9sctzPWBM&tbnid=pn6KKz-km_GJAM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjhrPL4-KjeAhVFsY8KHfwRBgQQMwhCKAQwBA..i&w=220&h=218&bih=501&biw=1093&q=rubus%20rugosus%20fruit&ved=0ahUKEwjhrPL4-KjeAhVFsY8KHfwRBgQQMwhCKAQwBA&iact=mrc&uact=8

I guess I shall never understand relation between:

R. indicus, R. moluccanus, R. rugosus and R. hamiltonianus however you have clarified

about this issue earlier.

1.EFN : R. rugosus syn : R.hamiltonianus No R. moluccanus

2.Plants and People of Nepal by Manadhar : R. rugosus syn: R.moluccanus and R.hamiltonianus

3.A Compendium of Medicinal Plants in Nepal by IUCN : R. rugosus syn: R. moluccanus No R. hamiltonianus

4.Flowers of India : R. moluccanus syn: R. hillii

R. indicus syn: R. rugosus and R. wightii but not related to sp. found in Nepal

5.The Catalogue of life : R. rugosus syn: R. hamiltonianus

R. moluccanus syn : No syn related to above.

6.POWO Kew : R. rugosus Syn: NO Distribution in nepal - Yes

R. mollucanus Syn: NO Distribution in Nepal - No

R. hamiltonianus No mention

R. indicus syn : NO Distribution in Nepal - NO

7. The Plant List is not working.

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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Oct 29, 2018, 9:33:15 AM10/29/18

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If we find similar images, let us keep them together on a single page.

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 29, 2018, 1:11:40 PM10/29/18

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OK Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jun 14, 2019, 12:56:27 AM6/14/19

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On closer scrutiny, I feel it may also be Rubus paniculatus Sm. with black fruits and as per SK119OCT01-2016:ID

Although inflorescence is only part shown and does not appear to be paniculate as per these images.

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Rubus paniculatus ?

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Jan 22, 2021, 11:48:03 PM1/22/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Rubus paniculatus ?

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Jan 23, 2021, 8:52:58 AM1/23/21

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Rubus paniculatus Sm.!

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Thanks Saroj, I think you are right.

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Thank you Gurucharan sir!

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