[efloraofindia:34312] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon

[R. Vijayasankar]

Citrus longilimon (Rutaceae). Planted in house gardens. Credit for the id goes to Gurcharan ji & Dinesh ji (I originally identified this as C. limon, now i am more convinced!).

With regards

R. Vijayasankar

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Vijayasankar ji

Thanks for showing us photographs of this Assam lemon, on which we had discussion last week, and I could sort out its identity after a lot of net search.

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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[R. Vijayasankar]

Thanks once again Gurcharan ji, for the id.

 

But similar plants have been identified as Citrus medica in the following sites:

http://www.vegtalk.org/fruits/citron-citrus-medica-t1635.html Citrus medica - 'Corsican Citron'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron as Citron varieties

http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Citron.html Dinesh ji's pictures

 

So how to confirm this? No picture for C. longilimon available in the net. The protologue (in Bull.Univ. Osaka Perfect....1959) in also not traceable.

 

With regards

R. Vijayasankar

[Tabish]

I am not able to distinguish it from Citrus medica, which has fruit
which is variable in shape
http://www.healthkerala.gov.in/ayurveda/herb_images/4.jpg
http://faculty.ksu.edu.sa/10439/Pictures%20Library/Forms/DispForm.aspx?ID=143
http://www.flowersinisrael.com/Citrusmedica_page.htm
- Tabish

On May 9, 1:53 am, "R. Vijayasankar" <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Citrus longilimon* (Rutaceae). Planted in house gardens. Credit for the id

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Vijayasankar ji and Tabish ji

Assam lemon, characterised by its long fruits (distinctinctly longer than broad) have been named as C. limon at many websites, and as C. medica in many websites. It should not look strange firstly because taxonomy of Citrus is very confusing, secondly many authors consider C. limon as var. or subsp. of C. medica, and as such those not going below species level would simply call it C. medica. Plus C. longilimon (character is in the name itself) is comparatively recently established species, not known to me. NMPMD database is generally well researched, and it is from here as well photographs of Assam lemon at various websites that C. longilimon appears to be the most logical name. Plus GRIN also recognises it as distinct species.

  C. limon is generally differentiated from C. medica by much thinner and smoother rind. Let us try to find out other differentiating features (in addition to longer fruit) of C. longilimon to arrive at final conclusion.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

 

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Thanks once again Gurcharan ji, for the id.

But similar plants have been identified as Citrus medica in the following sites:

http://www.vegtalk.org/fruits/citron-citrus-medica-t1635.html Citrus medica - 'Corsican Citron'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron as Citron varieties

http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Citron.html Dinesh ji's pictures

So how to confirm this? No picture for C. longilimon available in the net. The protologue (in Bull.Univ. Osaka Perfect....1959) in also not traceable.

With regards
R. Vijayasankar”

 

“I am not able to distinguish it from Citrus medica, which has fruit

which is variable in shape
 http://www.healthkerala.gov.in/ayurveda/herb_images/4.jpg
 http://faculty.ksu.edu.sa/10439/Pictures%20Library/Forms/DispForm.aspx?ID=143
 http://www.flowersinisrael.com/Citrusmedica_page.htm

 - Tabish”

 

“Vijayasankar ji and Tabish ji

Assam lemon, characterised by its long fruits (distinctinctly longer than broad) have been named as C. limon at many websites, and as C. medica in many websites. It should not look strange firstly because taxonomy of Citrus is very confusing, secondly many authors consider C. limon as var. or subsp. of C. medica, and as such those not going below species level would simply call it C. medica. Plus C. longilimon (character is in the name itself) is comparatively recently established species, not known to me. NMPMD database is generally well researched, and it is from here as well photographs of Assam lemon at various websites that C. longilimon appears to be the most logical name. Plus GRIN also recognises it as distinct species.

C. limon is generally differentiated from C. medica by much thinner and smoother rind. Let us try to find out other differentiating features (in addition to longer fruit) of C. longilimon to arrive at final conclusion.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Citrus longilimon ? 

Group discussion at

  [efloraofindia:34312] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon (google.com)  

[Gurcharan Singh]

orwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Citrus longilimon ? 

Group discussion at

  [efloraofindia:34312] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon (google.com)  

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Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010 at 2:23:27 AM UTC+5:30
Subject: [efloraofindia:34312] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon
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[Saroj Kasaju]

Citrus medica L. !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Thanks once again Gurcharan ji, for the id.

But similar plants have been identified as Citrus medica in the following sites:

http://www.vegtalk.org/fruits/citron-citrus-medica-t1635.html Citrus medica - 'Corsican Citron'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron as Citron varieties

http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Citron.html Dinesh ji's pictures

So how to confirm this? No picture for C. longilimon available in the net. The protologue (in Bull.Univ. Osaka Perfect....1959) in also not traceable.

With regards
R. Vijayasankar”

 

“I am not able to distinguish it from Citrus medica, which has fruit which is variable in shape

 http://www.healthkerala.gov.in/ayurveda/herb_images/4.jpg
 http://faculty.ksu.edu.sa/10439/Pictures%20Library/Forms/DispForm.aspx?ID=143
 http://www.flowersinisrael.com/Citrusmedica_page.htm

 - Tabish”

 

“Vijayasankar ji and Tabish ji

Assam lemon, characterised by its long fruits (distinctinctly longer than broad) have been named as C. limon at many websites, and as C. medica in many websites. It should not look strange firstly because taxonomy of Citrus is very confusing, secondly many authors consider C. limon as var. or subsp. of C. medica, and as such those not going below species level would simply call it C. medica. Plus C. longilimon (character is in the name itself) is a comparatively recently established species, not known to me. NMPMD database is generally well researched, and it is from here as well photographs of Assam lemon at various websites that C. longilimon appears to be the most logical name. Plus GRIN also recognises it as distinct species.

C. limon is generally differentiated from C. medica by much thinner and smoother rind. Let us try to find out other differentiating features (in addition to longer fruit) of C. longilimon to arrive at final conclusion.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

"Citrus medica L. !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju"

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orwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Citrus longilimon ? 

Group discussion at

  [efloraofindia:34312] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon (google.com)  

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Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010 at 2:23:27 AM UTC+5:30
Subject: [efloraofindia:34312] Flora of Manipur: Citrus longilimon
To: indiatreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Citrus longilimon (Rutaceae). Planted in house gardens. Credit for the id goes to Gurcharan ji & Dinesh ji (I originally identified this as C. limon, now i am more convinced!).

With regards

R. Vijayasankar

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J.M.Garg

[Vijayasankar]

I agree that this is Assam lemon. But the name Citrus longilimon Tanaka, although first published in 1959 and appears in several webpages, is not yet recognized by the major taxonomic databases, including TPL, POWO, GBIF etc. Also, a recent paper (cited below) discusses the morphological diversity of C. medica in NE India and includes specimens of similar fruit shape from the same region. So, I think we can treat this plant as C. medica L. for now along with C. longilimon Tanaka as a probable synonym, until it is further resolved.

Barbhuiya AR, Khan ML, Dayanandan S. Genetic structure and diversity of natural and domesticated populations of Citrus medica L. in the Eastern Himalayan region of Northeast India. Ecology and evolution. 2016 Jun;6(12):3898-911. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/ece3.2174  

Thanks!

Vijayasankar

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Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D.
Sr. Research Scientist
University of Mississippi, USA

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Vijayashankar Ji !

Saroj Kasaju

[Gurcharan Singh]

Thanks Vijayasankar for confirming that this is Assam lemon for which name C. longilimon has been published by Tanaka. We already have a page on C. longilimon, and it should go there.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

Mob: 9810359089

https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/

[Vijayasankar]

Thanks Gurcharan ji! 

Vijayasankar

[JM Garg]

I think this is Citrus medica L., as per images and details herein.

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