Please id – NSD 83

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Nayan Singh

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Nov 2, 2009, 1:48:09 PM11/2/09
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This herb is form Satpura Tiger Reserve, Photographed on 1-11-09

To me it looks like some root parasite, may be from Orobanchaceae family.

Please id it

Thanks

Nayan

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Aparna Watve

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:43:34 PM11/2/09
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Are you sure about the root parasite part? It doesn't look like
Orobanchaceae at all. the buds look more like Malvaceae, but need a
clearer picture of the inside of the flower.
aparna
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Nayan Singh

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Nov 2, 2009, 11:12:55 PM11/2/09
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Dear Aparna ji
thanks for your quick response
i am not very sure about root parasite, but it's shoot was directly coming from the ground and it was without any leaf.
sorry for poor pic, it was quite late in the evening and my camera was not functioning properly on that day
thanks again
nayan.
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Aparna Watve

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Nov 3, 2009, 1:03:58 AM11/3/09
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Dear Sir,
Are you also maintaining herbarium? In that case seeking more
taxonomic help will be possible.
Aparna

Nayan Singh

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Nov 3, 2009, 3:53:41 AM11/3/09
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Dear Aparna ji
i am basically a wild life manager, i am trying to prepare checklist of all Fauna and Flora of my area, so it is not possible to me to maintain herbarium. I am only trying to maintain photographs of Flora and Fauna encountered during my visits to my park and other areas.
Thaks.
Nayan.
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Aparna Watve

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Nov 3, 2009, 4:28:14 AM11/3/09
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Dear Sir,
That limits the research work to a certain extent, especially in case
of confusing species and large families like Poaceae, Cyperaceae,
Eriocaulaceae.
Athough I know that your time must be limited, if you plan to publish
your checklist in future, it would be more scientifically accurate if
you can maintain a herbarium.
Regards
Aparna

J.M. Garg

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:07:44 AM11/24/09
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Forwarding again for Id assistance pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“Are you sure about the root parasite part? It doesn't look like

Orobanchaceae at all. the buds look more like Malvaceae, but need a
clearer picture of the inside of the flower.
aparna”
 
"i am not very sure about root parasite, but it's shoot was directly coming from the ground and it was without any leaf.
sorry for poor pic, it was quite late in the evening and my camera was not functioning properly on that day
thanks again
nayan."


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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:16:51 AM11/24/09
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Garg ji
Just for information. A root parasite won't have green colour (chlorophyll) on any part. Here green sepals are clearly seen. The leaves must have fallen down. It is most probably Abutilon or Sida.


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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:02:16 AM11/24/09
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Mayur ji
No need to confuse with Verbascum chinense. This clearly has calyx, petals and stamens of Malvaceae, no where near Verbascum. Verbascum chinense has spreading fused petals, four exserted stamens with hairy filaments and much longer style. Hairs are also different

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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Mayur Nandikar <mayurn...@gmail.com> wrote:
hello,
this one is Verbascum chinesis Syn. Celsia coromandeliana of Scrophulariaceae.

Aparna Watve

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:13:34 AM11/25/09
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I am not sure abt the cholrophyll part. What about partial ones, like
Santalum album, which is root parasite in initial stages, but still
has chlorophyll? Some Striga sp. are supposed to be root parasites,
but they still have chlorophyll- even Striga orobanchoides, which is
red in colour still has chlorophyll in it, although masked by red
pigments I think. The only way of knowing a root parasite, is by
digging it out and checking its attachment with roots of other
species.
Would like to know from other ecologists
aparna


Garg ji
Just for information. A root parasite won't have green colour
(chlorophyll) on any part. Here green sepals are clearly seen. The
leaves must have fallen down. It is most probably Abutilon or Sida.

Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 4, 2021, 8:15:49 AM4/4/21
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Forwarding for ID
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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 4, 2021, 8:16:53 AM4/4/21
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Forwarding for ID
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Chennuru Nagendra

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Apr 5, 2021, 1:21:46 AM4/5/21
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Any Sida species ?



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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 5, 2021, 2:45:01 AM4/5/21
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Hopefully Sida sp.

Thank you.

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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Apr 5, 2021, 1:59:45 PM4/5/21
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Alectra avensis,
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 10, 2021, 3:38:50 AM4/10/21
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Thanks, Paradesi ji.
Looks different from Alectra sessiliflora (Vahl) Kuntze (syn: Alectra avensis (Benth.) Merrill) as per images and details herein.
I think it may be Alectra parasitica subsp. chitrakutensis as per images and details herein and as per Semantic scholar and Botany Cz



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