Another Karvi like in Matheran

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Sharmila Punde

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Feb 7, 2019, 1:30:12 PM2/7/19
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Dear All,
     Please help identify shrub in attached pictures. The shrub along with few other species occupied both sides of small hill roads. Special thing to note that they were growing in very shady area. Leaves are wooly, hairy. When leaf pressed, can feel it's thickness, feel spongyness like that of spongy and think coating of new electronic devices. Texture of leaf is very unique, has raised thick rectangles formed by veins, as in attached pictures.
Location: Matheran
Date: Mid December 2018
Seems the attached pictures are matching with  Strobilanthes lupulinus  as per my post by Dinesh Ji,  if compared with prominent dentated, finely wavy margin, leaf shape and colour, hairs,  raised thick rectangles formed by veins . No flowers found for comparision.
Please provide input regarding identification.
Thanks
Sharmila
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Sharmila Punde

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Feb 7, 2019, 1:32:35 PM2/7/19
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Attaching one more picture of closeup of leaf texture.
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radha veach

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Feb 8, 2019, 2:28:58 AM2/8/19
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Hello Sharmila,

yes it could be.

Another possibility is Strobilanthes ixiocephala Benth. I am looking at the white woolly stems which stand out when the plants are young. This is another common Strobilanthes which is commonly found in shady places.

regards
Radha

Sharmila Punde

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Feb 16, 2019, 12:45:48 AM2/16/19
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Dear Radha Ji,  Dinesh Ji,
   Thank you so much Radha Ji, Dinesh Ji🙏.
   Was searching match since your answering post. But could not arrive to conclusion beside many search and comparisons. Please inform few book names which has information of these species in Western Ghats. Do British Flora of India Volume-1 and Volume-2 has this?  I have 'Jungle Trees of Central India' which does not have these species information. Please let me spend some more time so that can report morphology as much detail as possible.  When you specially mentioned that they are shade loving, i got more interested if they can be grown indoor. Now days only money plants, areca palm other non-indigenous are grown widely as indoor. May be Strobilanthes can be replaced with them. Looks very beautiful and soft.
Thanks
Sharmila

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Dinesh Valke

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Feb 16, 2019, 1:55:55 AM2/16/19
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I am not able to recognize the species of the posted plant, Sharmila ji.
I know only few karvi plants, from their - flowers, along with habit and habitat.

Most of the flora are found recorded in THE FLORA OF THE PRESIDENCY OF BOMBAY by Cooke ... and Talbot's List of the Trees, Shrubs, and Woody Climbers of the Bombay Presidency. The botanical names in the floras may have undergone some changes according to studies.

Regards.
Dinesh

radha veach

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Feb 16, 2019, 2:37:23 AM2/16/19
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Hello Sharmila,

Dinesh has guided you regarding written sources for the plants.
As for growing them indoors i am not sure they would thrive. These particular plants are specific to their microenvironment. You could try planting seeds after the next flowering period.
Where exactly in Matheran did you observe them?
Regards
Radha

Sharmila Punde

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Feb 16, 2019, 2:40:19 AM2/16/19
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Dear Radha Ji!
Apologising for late reply!
Sharmila


On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:59 PM radha veach <radha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Sharmila Punde

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Feb 16, 2019, 2:56:12 AM2/16/19
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Thank you so much Dinesh Ji, will get these books first. 
Sharmila

Sharmila Punde

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Feb 16, 2019, 2:59:22 AM2/16/19
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Thank you so much Radha Ji. Yes, these  plants are specific to their microenvironment. But will try. May be similar soil rich with iron and other similar minerals will help.
They found at Garbet point, many of them, in Matheran. 
Thanks
Sharmila

Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Dec 3, 2020, 6:00:35 AM12/3/20
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Leaf pattern looks matching with Strobilanthes lupulina Nees!'
Thank you
Saroj Kasaju

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