Chenopodiaceae and Amaranthaceae Week:: UD 008:: Amaranth family 5 to ID

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Ushadi Micromini

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Feb 5, 2013, 7:46:45 AM2/5/13
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Chenopodiaceae and Amaranthaceae Week::  UD 008::  Amaranth family 5 to ID


Amaranth family to 5 to ID


Dear All


This is one more amaranth from the garden by the river, this has green flower spike…


Leaf size you can perhaps guess is about 4 inches long, 

the plants were just as tall as the ones with the red spikes

in the earlier submission.


Need ID please


Thanks


Usha di


Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4896 sm leaves flower spike.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4898 sm crp Back of leaf.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4899 sm Green flower spike.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4900 flower close up green spike.jpg

Satish Phadke

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Feb 7, 2013, 11:42:29 AM2/7/13
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Usha di
Very nice pictures indeed.
First time observing a close up of Amaranth flowers the features of which are necessary to reach upto species level.
I can't count the number of tepals and stamens ...hopefully they are 5 each.
The leaf axil I think is without spines which rules out A. spinosus.
I can see the Bracts/bracteoles spinous tipped (a key character.) and it is as long as or slightly longer than tepals.
They may be ovate acuminate which indicates it might be A.cruentus.
Dr Satish Phadke



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Ushadi Micromini

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Feb 8, 2013, 5:20:51 AM2/8/13
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Thanks Satish, I need to pay more attention to smaller details when encountering these small spikes...

and thanks for the details

I have this one of the area where a leaf arose and a few flowers bunched up, will this add any thing to your analysis?

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Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4897 fl close up sm crp.jpg

Satish Phadke

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Feb 8, 2013, 8:21:13 AM2/8/13
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Sorry no further progress possible.
Dr Satish Phadke

J.M. Garg

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Feb 11, 2013, 4:57:37 AM2/11/13
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:      

 Very nice pictures indeed.
First time observing a close up of Amaranth flowers the features of which are necessary to reach upto species level.
I can't count the number of tepals and stamens ...hopefully they are 5 each.
The leaf axil I think is without spines which rules out A. spinosus.
I can see the Bracts/bracteoles spinous tipped (a key character.) and it is as long as or slightly longer than tepals.
They may be ovate acuminate which indicates it might be A.cruentus.

Dr Satish Phadke

 Thanks Satish, I need to pay more attention to smaller details when encountering these small spikes...


and thanks for the details
I have this one of the area where a leaf arose and a few flowers bunched up, will this add any thing to your analysis?
Usha di

Efi site link for this species: Amaranthus cruentus


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Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4896 sm leaves flower spike.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4898 sm crp Back of leaf.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4899 sm Green flower spike.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4900 flower close up green spike.jpg

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Very nice pictures indeed.
First time observing a close up of Amaranth flowers the features of which are necessary to reach upto species level.
I can't count the number of tepals and stamens ...hopefully they are 5 each.
The leaf axil I think is without spines which rules out A. spinosus.
I can see the Bracts/bracteoles spinous tipped (a key character.) and it is as long as or slightly longer than tepals.
They may be ovate acuminate which indicates it might be A.cruentus.

Dr Satish Phadke

Thanks Satish, I need to pay more attention to smaller details when encountering these small spikes...


and thanks for the details
I have this one of the area where a leaf arose and a few flowers bunched up, will this add any thing to your analysis?
Usha di

Efi site link for this species: Amaranthus cruentus



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Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4896 sm leaves flower spike.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4898 sm crp Back of leaf.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4899 sm Green flower spike.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4900 flower close up green spike.jpg

Ushadi Micromini

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Garg ji
thanks for trying
but I wonder if it can be further helped without taking a dissecting microscope and taking  higher pictures of the flower parts
not possible at present for me

Lets hope some one can find enough in these pictures to get the dx
usha di
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Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4896 sm leaves flower spike.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4898 sm crp Back of leaf.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4899 sm Green flower spike.jpg
Amaranth family 5 to ID N7K_4900 flower close up green spike.jpg

J.M. Garg

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Yes, Amaranthus cruentus is possible as initially suggested by Satish ji

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