Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Aster sp. 2 from Chakrata- NS 66

[Nidhan Singh]

Dear All,

Please help to id this species from Chakrata area..

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[J.M. Garg]

A reply:

"Pl. look Aster peduncularis.

Krishan lal"

[Nidhan Singh]

Thanks Garg Ji and Krishan Lal Ji for the help..will try to ascertain..

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

"Pl. look Aster peduncularis. Krishan lal"

Thanks Garg Ji and Krishan Lal Ji for the help..will try to ascertain..

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Date: 11 May 2013 22:06
Subject: [efloraofindia:154772] Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Aster sp. 2 from Chakrata- NS 66
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[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Herb sp. in POWO and GBIF looks matching !

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Aster peduncularis ?

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Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Aster sp. 2 from Chakrata- NS 66 (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Aster peduncularis ?

Group discussion at

Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Aster sp. 2 from Chakrata- NS 66 (google.com)

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Date: Saturday, May 11, 2013 at 10:06:12 PM UTC+5:30
Subject: Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Aster sp. 2 from Chakrata- NS 66
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[Saroj Kasaju]

Cordiofontis thomsonii (C.B.Clarke) Nesom Syn : Aster thomsonii C.B.Clarke ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Both Aster peduncularis and Aster thomsonii look quite close as per GBIF links herein.

We have to find the difference between the two.

I am unable to get this on the net.

Of the two, Aster thomsonii seems more common as per availability of specimens in GBIF. 

For the time being, I take this post as Aster thomsonii. I could find the description of this in IBIS Flora from the FBI. 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

OK Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tabish]

To me this looks like Aster thomsonii.

   Tabish

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Tabish !

Saroj Kasaju

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[Tabish]

(sorry, forgot to attach in the prev message)

Aster thomsonii image from Flowers of the Himalaya: A Supplement by Adam Stainton, for comparison.

   Tabish

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 4:00:36 PM UTC+5:30 Tabish wrote:

Aster thomsonii image from Flowers of the Himalaya: A Supplement by Adam Stainton, for comparison.

   Tabish

On Saturday, May 11, 2013 at 10:06:12 PM UTC+5:30 Nidhan Singh wrote:

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Thanks, Tabish ji

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[Tabish]

The size of the flowers is quite different. Aster thomsonii has larger flowers, 4-5 cm across. Nidhan ji may comment on it, as he saw the flowers. I usually take one picture of the flowers together with a scale, for example with my finger - it helps in estimating the size later by looking at the pics. I am attaching an image of, what I think is, Aster thomsoni from Dhanaulti, Uttarakhand.

   Tabish

[Nidhan Singh]

Thanks Gurcharan Sir for re-opening the case..!!

Thanks Garg Ji, Saroj Ji and Tabish Ji for id suggestions..

I am hopeful that Gurcharan Sir may be having a few shots of this flower. It was my first tour of Chakrata with Shrikant Ji, Balkar Ji and Gurcharan Sir in September 2011....the photo was recorded on 17.09.2011 at around 9:30 am (this is a reference for Gurcharan Sir)..

I had learnt the significance of reference scale only after some more tours, and this is surely an incomplete post to conclude anything. Even the leaves are not captured. After such a long gap, I am now realizing the mistakes I did in the field, and there are no ways to correct, because it is rare of the rarest possibility to chance upon same plants in future follow up visits.

Tabish Ji, Aster thomsonii is a  good probability considering the flower dimensions..flowers are large, you can see my fingers (at least faintly) in the second image. I am enclosing two more pics, shot a little distance away..which may help to decide  

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Dr. Nidhan Singh

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Cordiofontis thomsonii (C.B.Clarke) Nesom

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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