Lycoris sanguinea in bamboo thicket from Hooghly

[surajit koley]

Sir / Madam,

Found these beautiful flowers in the wild. This was a wonderful gift from my beloved colleague Mrs. M. Chatterjee who passed me the breaking news!

Species : Lycoris sanguinea Maxim.

Habit & Habitat : wild herb, roadside

Date : 04-05-12, 10.30 a.m.

Place : Garalgacha (Hooghly), WB

ID help : 1) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/lycoris/indiantreepix/WGfUqrvXmis/Us3R7iDWBqcJ

2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoris_(plant)

Thank you & Regards,

Surajit Koley

[Ganesh M. Pradhan]

I think this would be Hippeastrum roseum. 

Ganesh M. Pradhan

[surajit koley]

Thank you very much, Ganesh Sir, for the correct ID. A net search tells me it is Hippeastrum roseum, not the Lycoris sanguinea.

Regards,

Surajit Koley

[shetur]

Hello Ganesh ji,

How do you differentiate between Hippeastrum roseum and Lycoris Sanguinea. Please let me know if posiible as net is full of confusing information!
Thank you.



 Surajit ji,
 beautiful pictures. Looks like a jungle out there; what a sight!
Thanks for sharing.

[surajit koley]

Thank you Shetur Ji for your kind feedback. It was an uncultivated area inside a village.

Please also see my recent post at -  https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/SdvtSZa_L4Q

Regards,

surajit

[Ganesh M. Pradhan]

Hello Shetur-ji,

I am not a botanist so will not be able to give scientific details. My input here is from a purely horticultural aspect having grown Lycoris and Hippeastrum (hybrids and a few species) commercially..Both Lycoris and Hippeastrum are bulbous, decidous/dormant (in respective season) plants and they belong  to the family Amaryllidaceae. Lycoris is of Asian origin (China/Japan) while Hippeastrum is native to South America (Argentina/Brazil). Lycoris are winter growers and flower in summer after loosing their leaves. Hippeastrum go dormant in winter and flower from early spring before continuing their growth.

I am attaching picture of Lycoris radiata and Lycoris aurea. Both these species flower for us in Kalimpong from mid August through September. Hippeastrum roseum and Hippeastrum puniceum have just finished flowering for us...April/May . I am listing a few links below which might provide further information.

http://botanyboy.org/japans-orange-surprise-lily-lycoris-sanguinea/

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Lycoris

 Hippeastrum roseum synonym

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-278270

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Rhodophiala

You will find from the last two links that Hippeastrum roseum is actually a synonym of Rhodophiala rosea. Couldn't get more complicated than that! Lycoris aurea and  Lycros radiata are grown in  villages by farmers and in the many flower nurseries in Kaimpong as a commercial crop. During the summer, in the "haat bazaar" of Kalimpong (Saturday and Wednesday), villagers can be seen selling bunches of Lycoris cut flowers along with vegetables, fruits, goats and chickens! The accompanying photo of the haat bazaar was taken  in early October and you can see some bunches of Lycoris aurea flowers below the green bananas hanging from the wall.

More confusion. Most "Amaryllis" hybrids sold commercially are actually Hippeastrum Hybrids!!

Hope this information is of use to you.

Ganesh M. Preadhan

[surajit koley]

Thank you very much Ganesh Sir for all these info on Lycoris & Hippeastrum.

But your fourth image, specially the anthers, matches with the flowers in my another post at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/SdvtSZa_L4Q !

Moreover, the plant in the above post have many leaves while the plants in this post have very few leaves. This doesn't matches with the description you provided on Lycoris.

Regards,

surajit

[surajit koley]

Dear All,

It appears to me that the species uploaded in my another post - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/SdvtSZa_L4Q is Hippeastrum roseum as have been identified by Ganesh Ji.

But the species featured here, i think, is not  Hippeastrum roseum, maybe some other species of  Hippeastrum as in -  http://www.123rf.com/stock-photo/amaryllidaceae_stamen.html (the validity in this link is questionable).

Hours of google search gives me some interesting find -

1) Almost all Hippeastrum images do bear short anther with yellow pollen, so do Lycoris

2) Images of Hippeastrum also feature leaves alongwith, on the other hand images of Lycoris seldom feature flower and leaves together.

3) scape height doesn't help, neither flowering season helps.

Thank you & Regards,

Surajit Koley

On Friday, 4 May 2012 22:12:17 UTC+5:30, surajit koley wrote:

[surajit koley]

Usha Di,

Forwarding you my reply mail to Ganesh Ji

Regards,

Surajit

[surajit koley]

Sir / Madam,

Attaching pictures of the same plants recorded today (29-05-12) from the same place. Please, note different anthers on different flowers. Also note that fallen bamboo leaves were burnt recently and it's a common practice. However, the fire must have killed/charred those flowering shoots and the tubers underneath must have developed new shoots within days.

Regards,

Surajit Koley

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Rhodophiala (Hippeastrum) Species

Group discussion at

Lycoris sanguinea in bamboo thicket from Hooghly (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Rhodophiala (Hippeastrum) Species

Group discussion at

Lycoris sanguinea in bamboo thicket from Hooghly (google.com)

[surajit koley]

Certainly it is Rhodophiala rosea, as Ganesh ji identified in those days.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Surajit Koley

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