Albizia falcataria? for ID SN March 18

[Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan]

Tall tree from Lalbag Bengaluru, 

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Perhaps an exotic element - not recorded in any Indian literature.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <ponsa...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan]

Father Mathew has described this species in his flora of Tamilnaducarnatic, it appears to be Falcataria moluccana (Miq.) Barneby & J.W.Grimes (= Albizia falcataria (L.) Fosberg, Paraserianthes falcataria (L.) I.C.Nielsen)

[D.S Rawat]

Falcataria moluccana is an introduced species in India.
BUT the species here have flowers in umbellate heads while F.moluccana have flowers in branched spikes.
The ID may please be looked again.
DSRawat Pantnagar

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Rawatji is right.  In fact  I have checked all the species of Albizia and segregate taxa so far known to occur in India and it is not matching with any known species.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Perhaps an exotic element - not recorded in any Indian literature.- from Tapas ji

Father Mathew has described this species in his flora of Tamilnaducarnatic, it appears to be Falcataria moluccana (Miq.) Barneby & J.W.Grimes (= Albizia falcataria (L.) Fosberg, Paraserianthes falcataria (L.) I.C.Nielsen)- from Santhan ji

Falcataria moluccana is an introduced species in India. BUT the species here have flowers in umbellate heads while F.moluccana have flowers in branched spikes. The ID may please be looked again. DSRawat Pantnagar

Rawatji is right.  In fact  I have checked all the species of Albizia and segregate taxa so far known to occur in India and it is not matching with any known species.- from Tapas ji.

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[radha veach]

It looks rather like Albizia odoratissima

regards
Radha

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:45:27 PM UTC+5:30, Santhan P wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Perhaps an exotic element - not recorded in any Indian literature.- from Tapas ji

Father Mathew has described this species in his flora of Tamilnaducarnatic, it appears to be Falcataria moluccana (Miq.) Barneby & J.W.Grimes (= Albizia falcataria (L.) Fosberg, Paraserianthes falcataria (L.) I.C.Nielsen)- from Santhan ji

Falcataria moluccana is an introduced species in India. BUT the species here have flowers in umbellate heads while F.moluccana have flowers in branched spikes. The ID may please be looked again. DSRawat Pantnagar

Rawatji is right.  In fact  I have checked all the species of Albizia and segregate taxa so far known to occur in India and it is not matching with any known species.- from Tapas ji.

It looks rather like Albizia odoratissima regards  Radha

efi page on Albizia odoratissima

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Date: 30 March 2015 at 17:45
Subject: [efloraofindia:219743] Albizia falcataria? for ID SN March 18
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[Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan]

It is not an Indian plant it is an introduced tee, it is frequently planted in Coorg coffee estates also.

[radha veach]

I"m not familiar with introduced Albizia spp.

Albizia odoratissima is commonly seen in Coorg coffee estates.

regards
Radha

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Whatever I wrote earlier still stands.  It is certainly not Albizia odoratissima.

[radha veach]

Thank you for your confirmation, Sir.    I am curious what it might be.

Interestingly there was another discussion about Falcataria moluccana on this group concerning a tree posted by Raman from Bangalore.

  https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Albizzia$20odoratissima/indiantreepix/29ERO5vU7GA/pBQsnFbqPHcJ

Radha

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Perhaps you have to send the images to Kew for expert opinion.

On 4/11/15, radha veach <radha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for your confirmation, Sir. I am curious what it might be.
>
> Interestingly there was another discussion about Falcataria moluccana on
> this group concerning a tree posted by Raman from Bangalore.
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Albizzia$20odoratissima/indiantreepix/29ERO5vU7GA/pBQsnFbqPHcJ
>
>
> Radha
>
> On 11 April 2015 at 14:05, Tapas Chakrabarty <tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Whatever I wrote earlier still stands. It is certainly not Albizia
>> odoratissima.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:10 PM, radha veach <radha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I"m not familiar with introduced Albizia spp.
>>>
>>> Albizia odoratissima is commonly seen in Coorg coffee estates.
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Radha
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 10:24:07 AM UTC+5:30, Santhan P wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is not an Indian plant it is an introduced tee, it is frequently
>>>> planted in Coorg coffee estates also.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 4:03 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>> Perhaps an exotic element - not recorded in any Indian
>>>>> literature.- from Tapas ji
>>>>>
>>>>> Father Mathew has described this species in his flora of

>>>>> Tamilnaducarnatic, it appears to be *Falcataria moluccana* *(Miq.)
>>>>> Barneby & J.W.Grimes* (= *Albizia falcataria* (L.) Fosberg,
>>>>> *Paraserianthes* *falcataria* (L.) I.C.Nielsen)- from Santhan ji

>>>>>
>>>>> Falcataria moluccana is an introduced species in India.
>>>>> BUT the species here have flowers in umbellate heads while F.moluccana
>>>>> have flowers in branched spikes.
>>>>> The ID may please be looked again.
>>>>> DSRawat Pantnagar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rawatji is right. In fact I have checked all the species of Albizia
>>>>> and segregate taxa so far known to occur in India and it is not
>>>>> matching
>>>>> with any known species.- from Tapas ji.
>>>>> It looks rather like Albizia odoratissima
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Radha
>>>>>
>>>>> efi page on Albizia odoratissima

>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/albizia/albizia-odoratissima>

>>>>>
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[radha veach]

Is there a chance of Enterolobium sp? Just a guess.

Radha

[J.M. Garg]

I think closer to images at Enterolobium cyclocarpum (Jacq.) Griseb.

 

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I think it is better to watch out for the fruits  before confirming the ID.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Enterolobium species ?- Lalbag, Bengaluru

Group discussion at

Albizia falcataria? for ID SN March 18 (google.com)

On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 10:00:12 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:

Thanks, Mahadeswara ji

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I think it is better to watch out for the fruits  before confirming the ID.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:06 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think closer to images at Enterolobium cyclocarpum (Jacq.) Griseb.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Enterolobium species ?- Lalbag, Bengaluru

Group discussion at

Albizia falcataria? for ID SN March 18 (google.com)

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[J.M. Garg]

It is Enterolobium cyclocarpum as per images and details herein. 

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[Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan]

Thanks Garg ji, there is a wide variation in the pairs of pinnae

Thanks & regards

Dr. Santhan P

[J.M. Garg]

As per Tropical forages:
Leaves bipinnately compound with 4‒9 pairs of pinnae, each with 13‒30 pairs of leaflets,

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