Taxus wallichiana

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Garg ji
Male cones of this plants are also attached.
Clicked in Shimla


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[Mahadeswara]

Awesome photographs !

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Anil ji,

Should it be Taxus contorta Griff. (N. Afghanistan to C. Himalaya as per WCSP) rather than Taxus wallichiana Zucc. (C. Himalaya to China (NW. Yunnan), SE. Vietnam, Sumatera, Philippines, Sulawesi as per WCSP) as per comparative images at Taxus‎ ?

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[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Garg ji

Kindly give me some time to go through details. As it was cultivated at National Bureau of Plant Genetic Resources (NBPGR), Regional Centre Shimla, I'll enquire the person who has introduced it at that place. They have collection even from outside India.

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[J.M. Garg]

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Anil ji,

Pl. take your time.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 10:14, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Garg ji

Kindly give me some time to go through details. As it was cultivated at National Bureau of Plant Genetic Resources (NBPGR), Regional Centre Shimla, I'll enquire the person who has introduced it at that place. They have collection even from outside India.

Regards 

On Sat, 22 Aug, 2020, 10:05 AM J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Anil ji,

Should it be Taxus contorta Griff. (N. Afghanistan to C. Himalaya as per WCSP) rather than Taxus wallichiana Zucc. (C. Himalaya to China (NW. Yunnan), SE. Vietnam, Sumatera, Philippines, Sulawesi as per WCSP) as per comparative images at Taxus‎ ?

On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 21:31, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Garg ji
Male cones of this plants are also attached.
Clicked in Shimla


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[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Garg ji,

It was introduced at NBPGR, Regional centre Shimla by Dr. K. Pradheep ji, who is now serving at NBPGR Nee Delhi.

I got the following  email reply from him regarding my query. 

Dear Dr Thakur

Thanks for your interest in Taxus species.

It should be within T. wallichiana or T. fuana. As per latest literature (see eflora of china), T. wallichiana occurs in Eastern Himalaya while what is occurring in western Himalaya is T. fuana. I tried to check the characters too, which is also seemingly matching more with T. fuana. 

Earlier literatures refer western Himalayan material as T. baccata (say Collett's Flora Simlensis), which was later designated as T. wallichiana (e.g. Flowers of Himalaya) and now as T. fuana. However, you need to consult HFRI taxonomists to further ascertain its correct identity.

Regarding location, I don't have any collector number matching with this collection. It is certainly not collected from Kinnaur. However, i roughly remember i collected the same from Great Himalayan NP, Kullu during 2004.

Kudos to your good photography. 

Apart from those published, I had a list of some 10-15 plant species which were not reported from Shimla. If you want to have more information about it, we shall work out on this.

Hope this discussion is useful

With kind regards

K Pradheep

We were considering the Taxus species occurring in this area as T. wallichiana only. However, we have to rethink and take it as T. contorta. I have asked someone to provide me key to the Taxus spp. He will give it on Monday. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anil ji,
Who has written the following:

We were considering the Taxus species occurring in this area as T. wallichiana only. However, we have to rethink and take it as T. contorta. I have asked someone to provide me key to the Taxus spp. He will give it on Monday. 

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[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Garg ji, these lines are from me. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Ok, Anil ji.

Taxus fuana Nan Li & R.R. Mill is a syn. of Taxus contorta Griff. as per Catalogue of Life and WCSP.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anil ji

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On Sat, 29 Aug, 2020, 9:32 am Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Garg ji, I have asked one scientist to collect it's cones and seeds for me, which may help me further. 

Regards 

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Garg ji,

 

These photographs were sent to me by Panki Sood ji from UN heritage Great Himalayan Park National Park.  I had requested him to click these for me.

Regards

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

On 8/29/20, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Anil ji
>
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> With regards,
> J. M. Garg
>
> On Sat, 29 Aug, 2020, 9:32 am Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, <
> aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Garg ji, I have asked one scientist to collect it's cones and seeds for
>> me, which may help me further.
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020, 09:19 J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, Anil ji.

>>> *Taxus fuana* Nan Li & R.R. Mill is a syn. of *Taxus contorta *Griff. as
>>> per Catalogue of Life
>>> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/f73247ec4d6499b95a5d49b831010408/synonym/5e00c80de45764d44cf6cbd2afdfc0a4>
>>> and WCSP <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/synonomy.do?name_id=378622>.

>>>>>> It should be within *T. wallichiana *or *T. fuana*. As per latest
>>>>>> literature (see eflora of china), *T. wallichiana* occurs in Eastern
>>>>>> Himalaya while what is occurring in western Himalaya is* T. fuana.* I

>>>>>> tried to check the characters too, which is also seemingly matching
>>>>>> more

>>>>>> with *T. fuana. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earlier literatures refer western Himalayan material as *T. baccata
>>>>>> *(say
>>>>>> Collett's Flora Simlensis), which was later designated as *T.
>>>>>> wallichiana* (e.g. Flowers of Himalaya) and now as* T. fuana*.

>>>>>>>>> Should it be *Taxus contorta* Griff.
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/t/taxaceae/taxus/taxus-contorta>

>>>>>>>>> (N. Afghanistan to C. Himalaya as per WCSP

>>>>>>>>> <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/synonomy.do?name_id=378622>) rather
>>>>>>>>> than *Taxus wallichiana* Zucc.
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/t/taxaceae/taxus/taxus-wallichiana>

>>>>>>>>> (C. Himalaya to China (NW. Yunnan), SE. Vietnam, Sumatera,
>>>>>>>>> Philippines, Sulawesi as per WCSP

>>>>>>>>> <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/namedetail.do?name_id=378675>) as

>>>>>>>>> per comparative images at Taxus

>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/t/taxaceae/taxus>‎

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anil ji, for the beautiful images.

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[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

These are some useful links:
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=132355

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210002198

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109106&flora_id=800

Nice paper on Differences:
https://academic.oup.com/botlinnean/article/155/3/307/2420200


Photographs
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109105&flora_id=800

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109104&flora_id=800

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109103&flora_id=800

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109102&flora_id=800

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=1351&flora_id=2


According to Farjon and Filer in "An Atlas of the World’s Conifers":
"In the Himalaya, Taxus wallichiana occurs E of T. contorta in
the wetter parts of the range; the transition zone between
the two taxa in Central nepal more or less coin-cides with
the climatic transition. it is known from E nepal, sikkim,
Bhutan and arunachal pradesh within the Himalayan range. However,
T. wallichiana has a much wider distribution."

It was a part of the Taxus wallichiana complex and was also reported
as T. wallichiana Zucc. in the literature as is also evident from the
herbarium specimens shown at Plants of the World Online (POWO). The
Plant List still consider Taxus contorta as a synonym of Taxus
wallichiana Zucc.

http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:263797-1

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2434832

The same person, A. Farjon, considered it as T. wallichiana in 2006
but T. contorta in 2008.

Garg ji, my specimens should be Taxus contorta Griff. only as per the
recent literature. Thank you for correcting me, otherwise, I would
have kept it as T. wallichiana.
Revising my BLOG also.

http://anilkthakur.blogspot.com/2020/04/himalayan-yew-potent-anti-cancerous.html


REGARDS

On 8/30/20, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Anil ji, for the beautiful images.
>
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 21:05, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <
> aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Garg ji,
>>
>> These photographs were sent to me by Panki Sood ji from UN heritage Great
>> Himalayan Park National Park. I had requested him to click these for me.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020, 11:02 am J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Anil ji
>>>
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>>> With regards,
>>> J. M. Garg
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Aug, 2020, 9:32 am Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, <
>>> aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Garg ji, I have asked one scientist to collect it's cones and seeds for
>>>> me, which may help me further.
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020, 09:19 J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, Anil ji.

>>>>> *Taxus fuana* Nan Li & R.R. Mill is a syn. of *Taxus contorta *Griff.

>>>>> as per Catalogue of Life

>>>>> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/f73247ec4d6499b95a5d49b831010408/synonym/5e00c80de45764d44cf6cbd2afdfc0a4>
>>>>> and WCSP <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/synonomy.do?name_id=378622>.
>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It should be within *T. wallichiana *or *T. fuana*. As per latest
>>>>>>>> literature (see eflora of china), *T. wallichiana* occurs in
>>>>>>>> Eastern Himalaya while what is occurring in western Himalaya is* T.
>>>>>>>> fuana.* I tried to check the characters too, which is also
>>>>>>>> seemingly matching more with *T. fuana. *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Earlier literatures refer western Himalayan material as *T.
>>>>>>>> baccata *(say Collett's Flora Simlensis), which was later
>>>>>>>> designated as *T. wallichiana* (e.g. Flowers of Himalaya) and now
>>>>>>>> as* T.
>>>>>>>> fuana*. However, you need to consult HFRI taxonomists to further

>>>>>>>>>>> Should it be *Taxus contorta* Griff.
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/t/taxaceae/taxus/taxus-contorta>
>>>>>>>>>>> (N. Afghanistan to C. Himalaya as per WCSP
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/synonomy.do?name_id=378622>)
>>>>>>>>>>> rather than *Taxus wallichiana* Zucc.
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/t/taxaceae/taxus/taxus-wallichiana>

>>>>>>>>>>> (C. Himalaya to China (NW. Yunnan), SE. Vietnam, Sumatera,
>>>>>>>>>>> Philippines, Sulawesi as per WCSP

>>>>>>>>>>> <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/namedetail.do?name_id=378675>) as

>>>>>>>>>>> per comparative images at Taxus

>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/t/taxaceae/taxus>‎

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anil ji, for the great follow up.

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