116-TSP-ID-OCT2016-3:Asteraceae sp @ Konanakaval for ID

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tsp kumar

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Oct 27, 2016, 11:57:42 AM10/27/16
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Dear friends,

 

Kindly examine and identify this plant belonging to Asteraceae

 

Habit:Herb

 

Habitat:Wild,Scrub forest

 

Sighting:Near Tumkur,Karnataka,about 800 msl

 

Date:21-09-2016

 

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tspkumar

Deputy Conservator of Forests

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 28, 2016, 12:34:48 AM10/28/16
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Nice images.


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Nidhan Singh

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Oct 28, 2016, 12:41:05 AM10/28/16
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I think this is Vernonia cineraria....
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lalithamba

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Oct 28, 2016, 12:41:24 AM10/28/16
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It is Cyanthillium albicans (DC.) H.Rob., 

Syn. Vernonia albicans DC., It is very common in Eastern ghats

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A.Lalithamba


On Friday, 28 October 2016 10:04:48 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:

Nice images.


On 27 Oct 2016 9:27 pm, "tsp kumar" <tspku...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

 

Kindly examine and identify this plant belonging to Asteraceae

 

Habit:Herb

 

Habitat:Wild,Scrub forest

 

Sighting:Near Tumkur,Karnataka,about 800 msl

 

Date:21-09-2016

 

Thanks and regards

tspkumar

Deputy Conservator of Forests

Working Plan 

Chikmagalur

Ph:9880571585

 

 

 

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tsp kumar

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Oct 28, 2016, 12:42:05 AM10/28/16
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Thanks Nidhan Singh ji
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tsp kumar

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Oct 28, 2016, 12:43:23 AM10/28/16
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Thanks Lalithamba ji
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J.M. Garg

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May 24, 2017, 8:45:06 AM5/24/17
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I think this is Vernonia cineraria....   - from Nidhan ji                                      

It is Cyanthillium albicans (DC.) H.Rob., 
Syn. Vernonia albicans DC., It is very common in Eastern ghats

regards

A.Lalithamba                                 

Hi, Lalithamba ji,
May I request you pl. provide differences between Cyanthillium albicans & Cyanthillium cinereum as I am unable to find these on net ?

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J.M. Garg

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May 25, 2017, 12:52:44 AM5/25/17
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Thanks a lot, Lalithamba ji. 
May I request you to pl. have a look at our threads in efi site and point out mistakes where ever possible. 
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Date: 24 May 2017 7:54 p.m.
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:255019] 116-TSP-ID-OCT2016-3:Asteraceae sp @ Konanakaval for ID
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Cc:

Cyanthillium albicans –plant parts pubescent/hispid; leaves whitish, thick. leaf image is attached; Heads, pink-purple, 1.2-1.8cm across, 30-40 flowered, in 3-10cm long terminal paniculate cymes. Achenes 1-2mm long, 4-5 angled, pappus villous.

Cyanthillium cinereum: Plants glabrascent,   3-5mm across, 20-30 flowered, in 3-10cm long terminal paniculate cymes.  Achenes villous. 

images of both are attached 

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A.Lalithamba

c albicans.JPG
IMG_5554 Cynanthillium albicans.JPG
IMG_5819 Cynanthillium albicans.JPG
P1010004 Cyanthillium cinereum fruit.JPG
PC120237 Cyanthillium cinereum .JPG

J.M. Garg

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May 25, 2017, 1:20:18 AM5/25/17
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As per this main difference appears to be in Cyanthillium albicans –plant parts pubescent/ hispid; leaves whitish, thick (Cyanthillium cinereum: Plants glabrascent) & Heads, pink-purple, 1.2-1.8cm across, 30-40 flowered (Cyanthillium cinereum: Heads, pink-purple, 3-5mm across) Achenes 1-2mm long, 4-5 angled, pappus villous (Cyanthillium cinereum: Achenes villous) 

J.M. Garg

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May 25, 2017, 3:43:39 AM5/25/17
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Thanks, Lalithamba ji.
May I request to have a look at our posts under Cyanthillium cinereum 

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Yes Gargji, because of whitish appearance it is named as Cyanathillium albicans(alba-white)
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A.Lalithamba

J.M. Garg

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May 25, 2017, 4:27:09 AM5/25/17
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Thanks a lot, Lalithamba ji.

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Yes All images are of C.cinereum; it is a quite variable species; the leaves of C.albicans are thicker than that of C.cinereum
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A.Lalithamba

Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan

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May 30, 2017, 10:07:59 AM5/30/17
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Here the leaves, heads are smaller.  It is Cyanthillium cinereum only

J.M. Garg

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Jun 7, 2017, 7:52:10 AM6/7/17
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I think this is Vernonia cineraria....   - from Nidhan ji                                      

It is Cyanthillium albicans (DC.) H.Rob., 
Syn. Vernonia albicans DC., It is very common in Eastern ghats
regards

A.Lalithamba                 

Hi, Lalithamba ji,
May I request you pl. provide differences between Cyanthillium albicans & Cyanthillium cinereum as I am unable to find these on net ?
Cyanthillium albicans –plant parts pubescent/ hispid; leaves whitish, thick. leaf image is attached; Heads, pink-purple, 1.2-1.8cm across, 30-40 flowered, in 3-10cm long terminal paniculate cymes. Achenes 1-2mm long, 4-5 angled, pappus villous.

Cyanthillium cinereum: Plants glabrascent, 3-5mm across, 20-30 flowered, in 3-10cm long terminal paniculate cymes.  Achenes villous. 

images of both are attached 

regards

A.Lalithamba 

Here the leaves, heads are smaller.  It is Cyanthillium cinereum only - from Santhan ji.

 

 


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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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I guess Cyanthillium albicans (DC.) H.Rob. is the closest match.
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 23, 2020, 9:22:06 PM12/23/20
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J.M. Garg

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Lalithamba Avadhanam

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Dec 24, 2020, 12:57:47 AM12/24/20
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yes TSPkumars images are different , close to C.cinererium 
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1 Cynanthillium albicans leaf.JPG
2 floral heads of Cynanthillium albicans.JPG

Gurcharan Singh

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Gurcharan Singh

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 20, 2021, 5:35:18 AM6/20/21
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Yes  Vernonia albicans
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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tsp kumar

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Thanks Saroj ji.
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