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Tabish

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Oct 25, 2019, 11:50:35 AM10/25/19

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A herb found in Pasighat, Arunachal Pradesh - 150-200 m altitude.

Found blooming in October end.

Leaves appear to be trifoliate.

It is obviously from Fabaceae (Pea family)

Sorry for the quality of the images.

Please identify

Tabish

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Tabish

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Oct 25, 2019, 11:58:11 AM10/25/19

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Sorry, the pics and subject have been wrongly named "Manipur". It should have been Aruncahal.

Tabish

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 25, 2019, 12:25:25 PM10/25/19

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Desmodium laxiflorum DC. ??

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Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 25, 2019, 12:46:46 PM10/25/19

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maile dui wata rubus pathaej

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Tabish

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Oct 25, 2019, 12:57:09 PM10/25/19

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Desmodium laxiflorum is what I also thought, but I am not sure.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 25, 2019, 1:05:28 PM10/25/19

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Let us wait for opinion from other members.

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Tabish

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Oct 25, 2019, 1:14:12 PM10/25/19

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To me this plant is looking more robust, with thicker leaflet stalks etc, than the plant seen in Dinesh's post here.

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Tabish

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Oct 25, 2019, 1:32:12 PM10/25/19

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According Eflora of China, lateral veins 9-12

The leaves of my plant appear to agree with this. But the leaves in Dinesh's plant appear to have more number of lateral veins.

Tabish

Dinesh Valke

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Oct 25, 2019, 2:13:24 PM10/25/19

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Tabish, your plant has relatively stouter stems than Desmodium laxiflorum that we see in northern Western Ghats; also the inflorescence is not lax.

And leaves as you have noted.

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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Oct 25, 2019, 3:14:56 PM10/25/19

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Could be Uraria rufescens Tabish JI,

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Oct 25, 2019, 4:24:31 PM10/25/19

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saroj ji

???

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ushadi

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Oct 25, 2019, 4:26:41 PM10/25/19

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I don't see any pictures here

have not deleted any mail to make room this month

so what gives?

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Dinesh Valke

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Oct 25, 2019, 11:42:14 PM10/25/19

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Usha di ... the pic is attached in earlier mail ... with subject line: [efloraofindia:333773] TQ-Manipur-04 Unid

Subsequent mail has the subject line revised.

Regards.

Dinesh

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Tabish

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Oct 26, 2019, 12:52:47 AM10/26/19

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Thanks Paradesi ji,

However, the shape of the leaflets of this plant doesn't agree with the description of Uraria rufescens. The leaflets of Uraria rufescens are rounded at tip. Here they are clearly pointed.

Tabish

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Could be Uraria rufescens Tabish JI,
With kind regards.

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 22:16, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

maile dui wata rubus pathaej

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:37 PM Tabish <tab...@gmail.com> wrote:

A herb found in Pasighat, Arunachal Pradesh - 150-200 m altitude.
Found blooming in October end.
Leaves appear to be trifoliate.
It is obviously from Fabaceae (Pea family)
Sorry for the quality of the images.
Please identify
Tabish

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Tabish

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Oct 26, 2019, 1:04:01 AM10/26/19

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Posting the images again, as the thread got bifurcated by modifying the subject line.

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Oct 26, 2019, 1:06:17 AM10/26/19

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Thatnks Dinesh for your observations.

Tabish

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Tabish

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Oct 26, 2019, 1:12:31 AM10/26/19

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The images of Desmodium laxiflorum (supposedly) posted here:

http://ppbc.iplant.cn/tu/3792743

appear to agree very well with my images. But then the apparent disagreement with the images from Maharashtra is puzzling.

Tabish

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Tabish

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Oct 26, 2019, 1:54:15 AM10/26/19

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Looking at various images at GBIF, what I gather is that the specimens of Desmodium laxiflorum from Africa and Western Ghats seem to have larger leaves (compared with the inflorescence). Specimens from SE Asia do have smaller leaves. They agree more with my plant. Two examples, one from Africa, one from Malaysia, are here:

https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1288064297

https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2290749603

Also specimens from Africa do have leaves with larger number of nerves than what Flora of China mentions. All this is consistent with the fact that one synonym is Desmodium macrophyllum (meaning large leaves).

So, my conclusion is that my plant is Desmodium laxiflorum and there is variation between plants found in Western Ghats and NE India.

Best wishes

Tabish

Dinesh Valke

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Oct 26, 2019, 3:19:44 AM10/26/19

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Liked your conclusion, Tabish.

Other than some slight variations in some aspects, the "colour scheme" of flower reminds of D. laxiflorum.

This colour scheme is "sometimes" found in D.heterocarpon, but the arrangement of flowers is clearly different there.

Regards.

Dinesh

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 26, 2019, 4:35:22 AM10/26/19

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Thank you Tabish / Dinesh ji!

My initial guess seems to be correct.

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 26, 2019, 5:37:38 PM10/26/19

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Thanks, Tabish for the pictures and references

Its difficult to properly see the leaf in great detail from the herbarium specimen from Malaysia

but I was able to count the veins... they are about 5 could be 6

your specimen has 5-6

flower color can always vary based on pH and metal ion content of the soil

I think you are on the correct tract : D. laxiflorum

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Ushadi

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Oct 26, 2019, 9:10:32 PM10/26/19

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Thank you Usha di !

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