Dalbergia for identification 080811MK01

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Muthu Karthick

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Aug 8, 2011, 2:10:19 AM8/8/11
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Dear all, 
A friend of mine asked me to identify this Dalbergia species. Please help me to identify this.

Date: 17 July 2008
Location: en route Ooty, Nilgiris
Altitude: c. 1600 m
Habitat: wild (photographed from road)

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Neil Soares

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Aug 8, 2011, 3:11:09 AM8/8/11
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Hi Muthu,
   This looks like Dalbergia lanceolaria var .paniculata locally called Phanshi. Please check this site for my photographs of D.lanceolaria var.lanceolaria [Dandus].
                   Regards,
                    Neil Soares.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 28, 2011, 5:29:43 AM9/28/11
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Neil ji....................................This looks like Dalbergia lanceolaria var .paniculata locally called Phanshi. Please check this site for my photographs of D.lanceolaria var.lanceolaria [Dandus].
 


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M Swamy

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Sep 30, 2011, 8:47:06 AM9/30/11
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I am quite sure the tree is not  Dalbergia lanceolaria.      The leaves are quite distinct.   I have the tree  in Mysore and have seen in Chennai also.

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 21, 2011, 11:23:22 AM11/21/11
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Neil ji....................................This looks like Dalbergia lanceolaria var .paniculata locally called Phanshi. Please check this site for my photographs of D.lanceolaria var.lanceolaria [Dandus].

Mahadeswara ji...........................I am quite sure the tree is not  Dalbergia lanceolaria.      The leaves are quite distinct.   I have the tree  in Mysore and have seen in Chennai also.

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jmgarg1

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Neil ji....................................This looks like Dalbergia lanceolaria var. paniculata locally called Phanshi. Please check this site for my photographs of D.lanceolaria var.lanceolaria [Dandus].

Mahadeswara ji...........................I am quite sure the tree is not  Dalbergia lanceolaria.      The leaves are quite distinct.   I have the tree  in Mysore and have seen in Chennai also.

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It would have been helpful to have seen the tree in toto,
and its bark
canopy/ overall shape...

But in the meantime based on these three pics,
How about Ailanthus..
the profusion of seedpods of this particular shape, color and bunching in presence of those leaves.. makes me thinks its ailanthus .. such as the Ailanthus excelsa...

I have seen Ailanthus altissima grow to be huge and fruit so profusely and grow seedlings so vigorously that people went from loving it to thinking it was a pest...

if its not, love to find out what is it
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Giby Kuriakose

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Jun 4, 2012, 1:47:08 AM6/4/12
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It is a species of Dalbergia for sure. 
Leaves are different in  Ailanthus spp. 


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jmgarg1

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Jun 4, 2012, 8:25:39 AM6/4/12
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A reply:
"A species of  Dalbergia only. 
The leaves of Ailanthus excelsa are  quite different and very big.  The fruits are also different and belongs to Simaroubaceae." from Mahadeswara ji.

J.M. Garg

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Mar 4, 2017, 5:40:25 AM3/4/17
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Can it be Dalbergia sissoides Wight & Arn. as per images herein
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 15, 2021, 2:32:28 AM9/15/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as  Dalbergia sissoides ?
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 15, 2021, 2:33:25 AM9/15/21
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Distributed as  Dalbergia sissoides ?
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2021, 6:24:16 AM9/19/21
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Can it be Dalbergia sissoides Wight & Arn. as per images herein?

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Lalithamba Avadhanam

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Sep 19, 2021, 7:45:56 AM9/19/21
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Yes, It looks like Dalbergia sissoides
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2021, 8:35:42 AM9/19/21
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Thanks a lot, Lalithamba ji

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