MFG plugin

[Deepak Pansheriya (Logilite.com)]

Hello Community,

Recently I started working with libero mfg plugin. I found there are many forks and understanding changes in each repository are almost impossible as  many forks has commit in non English language.

So I am thinking to consolidate a plugins which can be grow and become official iDempiere plugin in future. But looking at code, and level of work it looks it may take longer.

So intention to work on goal of making the plugin close to Adempiere plugin, Fixing issues me and Carlos has done discussion and based on same want to plan as below

1. We create separate Git project with issue enabled.

2. Refactor existing repository (May be from Peter Shepetko)

3. We want to rename it to avoid confusion when discussing in forum. Carlos suggest to use Logilite MFG. Suggestion for better naming idea for complex mfg plugin are well come.

4. Replace iDempiere BOM with Libero BOM structure. Currently tables and model classes are added in iDempiere but those are not used. 

5. We use git issue to manage tickets

6. All fork can contribute their changes by creating tickets and explaining use case.

7. New plugin maintain computability with iDempiere 7.1, 8.2 and master branch.

would like to know all work done in this direction as well as interested community members in this efforts.
We can have dedicated chat channels for mfg efforts, questions and support in matter 

most.

[Leszek Bober]

Hi Deepak

I can help with the tests.

Regards

Leszek Bober

[Deepak Pansheriya]

Thanks Leszek.

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With Regards,

Deepak Pansheriya

www.logilite.com

[Binary Statistics]

Hi Deepak,

Have you seen this?

https://groups.google.com/g/idempiere/c/2f3N7jyd1AA/m/dVz92Uum1dgJ

Chuck's response is quite interesting.

[Deepak Pansheriya (Logilite.com)]

I just read this. Looks many efforts done but libero plugin yet at same level. This is one another efforts. I am not targeting CRP, DRP first but Manufacturing and MFG.

Fixing issue as much as possible, cleaning code.

It may take time to reach at iDempiere's expected code quality level but just want to give another fresh start.

[Heng Sin Low]

One suggestion - I think it would make it much easier for user of your module if you can disable the parts (for e.g CRP and DRP) that you are not planning to target at this point of time.

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[Deepak Pansheriya]

@Heng Sin Low 

That is a good idea too. And if someone shows interest to Test and fix, then we can enable that module. Or we can maintain a separate 2pack for enabling it. When we see it is working then we can enable it officially.

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[Marco Longo]

Hi ,

Like Chuck I don't like Libero ,  a lot of stuff  ..many thing are wrong and not working , complex configuration .

(but we user for product configuration or DDO and other things)

Chuck list is correct and  on the fly:  (maybe already in the list )

- bom tables different ( and all of codes )

- info product does not consider MRP 

- MPS Master Plan not existing

Start a project no considering CRP and DRP  why not starting from "zero" point ?

Like Adaxa and many others we made extensione to manage production.

We take some process from libero but some other are completely new.

iDempiere needs a standard production ( plugin or core)  as production-single is very basic

My opinion is we need to start from  what we expect  from this plugin..(maybe not for all is the same ..)

just write process flow , table-relation  definition , functionality list and so on , share this and check if there is something to reuse or change

Available to create a group for this.

My2Cent

Marco Longo

https://idempiere.consulting

[azzam othman]

Dear All,

I can be part of the functional team of the new BOM module . I have opportunity to implement it in our organization and give immediate feedback .  We can share the process of BOM in the manufacturing cycle .

I suggest to rebuild the BOM module and not to use the Libro

Thank you .

[Deepak Pansheriya (Logilite.com)]

Marco,

Production light works good in most of scenario. Carlos suggested to use same BOM table as in Libero in iDempiere core. Already that done by TrekGlobal and once we get access, we will try to port same in iDempiere core.

I needs to understand functional expectation in below two.

- info product does not consider MRP 

- MPS Master Plan not existing

"Start a project no considering CRP and DRP  why not starting from "zero" point ?"

Libero has good data model, usage of many fields are not coded or logic behind that is missing. Manufacturing process works in complex controlled manufacturing. Routing has some issue as mentioned by chuck but those can be fixed. Also what is found that Adempiere code and iDempiere plugin code has gap as well as introduced bug during conversion to plugin.

We are using Adempiere version of Libero plugin since long and it working as per our customer requirement.

MRP module may work so we can start fixing it.

[Deepak Pansheriya (Logilite.com)]

Azzam,

In iDempiere we are planning to replace current BOM by Libero BOM as it supports multiple version, variations of BOM. This effort is not for come up with third BOM but taking Libero BOM and improving it. So if Libero BOM is not able to cover your requirement, you can share your use case and if that is not sound achievable then we can modify it.
Please note that we have already started to add support for missing functionality and enhancing data model as we are coming up with use cases. 

[Heng Sin Low]

I think it is fine to start with current Libero as the base if we can:

1. Provide a good migration path for current Core Production model.

2. Strip out or split out the part of Libero that's either very buggy, badly designed or not working at all (for e.g, it is a significant step forward if we can break that out to MRP, DRP, CRP, etc).

#2 is very important here as the current Libero is very hard to maintain and improve due to that. It is very frustrating for both users and developers to find out what's working and what's not from that huge bunch of code/features.

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[azzam othman]

Hi Deepak,

Thank you for the reply & valued details .  Please, select & proceed in the BOM module that you find suitable . I will provide the live testing in our environment . I can suggest features from SAP BOM in the manufacturing life cycle . I just need to install the new BOM module and run it in my organization .  

Thank you ,

Azzam

[Deepak Pansheriya]

Azzam,

Sure will keep you posted.

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[Deepak Pansheriya]

@Heng Sin Low agree.

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[azzam othman]

Appreciated Deepak . Thank you . Proud to work with you & this valued forum .

[Deepak Pansheriya (Logilite.com)]

What I am thinking is to name plugin as org.idempiere.mfg2 as it covers features of 2nd level manufacturing softwares.

[Binary Statistics]

I think that makes sense.

[azzam othman]

Dear All ,

Is there any progress in this task . I can contribute in Functional & testing .

[Deepak Pansheriya]

Azzam,

I started refactoring but not finished, that is I did not publish status. I created repository and you can see changes 
https://github.com/logilite/org.idempiere.mfg2

Plugin code is not fully tested yet, Still testing and fixing and identifying tasks. If you found any issue in the libero plugin or things to enhance, you can report on https://github.com/logilite/org.idempiere.mfg2/issues meanwhile.

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[antonio....@dyensisoftware.it]

Hi Deepak,

Do you have any news on this topic?

Which plugin is the most up-to-date or has made the most progress? Yours or the one present on Idempiere plugin ?

Best regards ?

Antonio Patarozzi

[Tanmoy Prosun Dey]

Hi Deepak,

I can help with testing also.

Regards,

Tanmoy

[Deepak Pansheriya (Logilite.com)]

Anton,

I am using https://github.com/logilite/org.idempiere.mfg2 in production and it working. it has some bug fixes and enhancement. I am using with Average PO costing method.

[Heng Sin Low]

Hi Deepak,

It would be nice if you can include in the readme of https://github.com/logilite/org.idempiere.mfg2 what's being used in production and confirm working.

Regards,

Low

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[Deepak Pansheriya (Logilite.com)]

Hengsin, 

Sure will do. Also I needs to update ticket status.

[azzam othman]

Hi Deepak

I can delopy your plugin in our iDempere ERP . I just need your updates & notes about bug fixes .

[Heng Sin Low]

I think what's very useful to others is for Deepak to list out the features/functionality that his customers have been using in production.

Libero Mfg is a pretty big module and it has been problematic for many to figure out what's working and what's not.

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[yuanaw]

Hi Deepak & All  🙏

Hope you all well & healthy 🙏

Any update progress about Libero MFG Plugin?

Thanks  🙏

[Dante Alferez Condori (Dalcont)]

Hi everyone,

I am trying to use this plugin from the sources (https://github.com/logilite/org.idempiere.mfg2) with iDempiere 8.2 but I found some errors, for example, I_PP_Product_BOM.getQty() not exists, the 2packs reference to column qtyrequired that not exists, does this plugin have prerequisites?