Re-naming

[Thorsen Rune]

Thanks a lot for the suggestion Chapal and renaming (rebranding) should be done in an early stage. I just googled ICCAT and it gives

About 769,000 results (0.74 seconds)

ICoCreAD is quite unique but I'm happy to put up a voting but there will be a lot of docs and accounts to change so It should really be worth it.

By, the way

Irene and Kylie, may I add you to the group?

Rune

Il 10/08/2022 10:32, KHASNABIS, Chapal ha scritto:

Good idea but why not to name it as ICCAT (International Consortium of Creatable Assistive Technology) (like I see CAT)instead of

ICoCreAD (International Consortium of Creatable Assistive Devices).

Food for thought.

Best wishes

Chapal Khasnabis     

 

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[Sandy Brain]

My vote would be to keep the name as it is.

Sandy

[Will Wade]

Just a thought but you could just collaborate on the already OpenAssistive project and use our already existing slack channels as way of carrying on discussion  - as some kind of working party (Openassistive #iCoreCad). Do you have aims already ? Do they overlap (https://openassistive.org/2017/04/aims) ? I’m just aware there are already so many different groups. If you are at the stage of renaming maybe it’s the time to just collaborate on one of those platforms already??! Maybe not -  Just a thought!

 

(NB: I know from our side we really struggle to keep up with discussions like this on email. Our inboxes are exceedingly busy with supporting the around 2000 clients.. These sort of things do work quite well on a asynchronous platform such as teams, slack, discord.. IMHO).

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[thorsenrune]

Thanks Will, I think it would be great to collaborate on the OpenAssistive project as the aims are the same. Do you think OpenAssistive would be interested in making an umbrella for MMC, ATOP etc.? 

The site is great but I believe there is room for improvements to make it more clinically relevant and I assume the style is ‘frozen’ now. Is that Correct Will?.

1. Rating

What I propose to add is the rating of the solutions so AT seekers know what they get before making. Can that be implemented on OpenAssistive?

2. Adding solutions in a fast and easy way to get the numbers up and thereby the chance to find what you are looking for.

For example - I searched for ‘splint’ and got only one result (Pasco). If you search EASTIN.EU for ‘splint’ you get 1.300 results. That's the level we should get up to to be clinically relevant for an AT seeker. I think part of that is because it's time consuming to add a new device to the OpenAssistive project (you have to code it) so it's not inclusive for non technical people. 

Do you think that could be changed in OpenAssistive?

(As of the project plan for Microsoft there were more ideas yet.)

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P.S. I agree with the email problem. (Remember you can change your settings to get a summary on the google group). 

Could you share some links to the discussion group of OpenAssistive please?

Please let us know

Rune

[Will Wade]

Nothing is frozen. We have a bit of a roadmap and architecture idea which maybe we can share soon when we get some space. We hear a lot of your needs and feel we can meet a lot of them.  Yeah – regarding the search and data we hear you.

And re: Channels – have a look at https://join.slack.com/t/openassistive/shared_invite/zt-fsejuccx-VczClLUIYYErK~8f7dd9Xw - on slack - and if AAC is of interest to you – take a look at https://join.slack.com/t/openaac/shared_invite/enQtNTQwNDgwODYyNjU5LTAwODNmZjM4ZmJmOTJkYTY2MWZkNjc0MDQ0NTcwMTRmMzY0MWI3OWJiNGYwZGIzMzc2YTk2N2FiY2JlYTI5Njc  (and this site: https://www.openaac.org)

 

 

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[Rune Thorsen]

The https://www.openaac.org looks like a great site and it's fairly lightweight (I get 2.5Mb for the landing page). What would it take to bring it down, say a factor 10, so to include low bandwidth coverage?  

I checked the SLACK but could not immediately find the roadmap, can you please help me there? 

So to summarize I think it's a good idea to merge efforts but I cannot contribute in complex web development so I think we should make an analysis of the opportunities and possibilities in the webdev group before changing. What do you all think?

Rune

[Gavin Henderson]

I just wanted to quick side note, not trying to derail any conversations but I felt it was important to note that the amount of data sent over the network on the load of a page is not a good metric of how well a website performs in a low bandwidth setting.

 

In practice a website that sends a small amount data across the network could be written poorly and block rendering of the page for 20s through inefficient scripting. A website that overall sends a large amount across the network could be great in a low bandwidth environment by using progressive enhancement techniques so that the website is fully usable after only 5% of the network traffic has completed. This is a very common trend.

 

To account for the above its common to use ‘Web Vital’ metrics designed by Google. These metrics show us how well a website performs in relation to the users. To get a feel of how well a page performs in various settings (including a low bandwidth scenario) we should look at their ‘First Contentful Paint’,  ‘Largest Contentful Paint’ and ‘Time to interactive’.

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[Rune Thorsen]

Great insight Gavin, I renamed the subject to fit into a web-development thread. What we need is some testers in  rural areas.

I'm by no means an expert but I often work on a metered tethered network close to the swiss border (they are charging 0.5 eurocent /MB) so somtimes I pay high price for internet access and wonder how it is worldwide. Do you have any information about costs around the world? 

It would be great if we could do some field testing. Could we put it on a Roadmap?

Thanks for the great links, they will come handy.

Rune