Archivists have reported that the Sort Alphabetic doesn’t
seem to behave either when logged in or not in version 2.3 and 2.3.1. We’ve set the Sort browser (users)
and (anonymous) to sort alphabetic.
We also have a note on this, with a reference ASCII table, in this section of our documentation:
Essentially, since ASCII sorting depends on the ordering of the ASCII table, this can lead to unexpected results from what we might naturally expect - for example:
And so forth.
We could definitely improve this in AtoM - there are some sorting options built into PHP that could be further analyzed and tested. The multilingual nature of AtoM, especially where culture fallback is used in results that might appear in many cultures (such as search/browse) adds complexity, but I think with time we could improve this consistently in the application. This would definitely require community sponsorship for us to be able to implement properly however, as the analysis, testing, and development required is non-trivial. If that's something your institution is interested in discussing further, please feel free to contact me off-list. I've found a number of tickets that further describe the challenges, the attempts we've made over the years to adjust, and their subsequent move to the Wishlist until they can be sponsored - you might find them of interest:
And of course: if I've totally missed what you are pointing to in my quick glance, please feel free to correct me and provide further details, and I can take another look and try to reproduce.
Regards,
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One of our developers at the time added a rough estimate on the issue ticket of the time he believed would be involved for a fix. We would have to review this, but it should give you a sense of scale for the issue. As it will require investigation, testing, and a number of changes to our ES index and database, it is a bit beyond what Artefactual can address without community sponsorship.
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Hi Vicky,I see what you mean. Since it seems to behave correctly when results are limited to one specific culture, I believe that this is the issue described in the last ticket I linked - see:One of our developers at the time added a rough estimate on the issue ticket of the time he believed would be involved for a fix. We would have to review this, but it should give you a sense of scale for the issue. As it will require investigation, testing, and a number of changes to our ES index and database, it is a bit beyond what Artefactual can address without community sponsorship.
Regards,
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 4:19 AM, 'Vicky Phillips' via AtoM Users <ica-atom-users@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,
Thanks for your quick response and for explaining how AtoM's sorting works. The problem we have at the moment is that with the Unique records, the pages towards the end of the results list don't seem to follow any Alphabetic sorting, see here
https://archives.library.wales/index.php/informationobject/browse?page=1485&limit=10&sort=alphabetic&topLod=1
Whereas selecting English
https://archives.library.wales/index.php/informationobject/browse?page=1422&languages=en&limit=10&sort=alphabetic&topLod=1
or Welsh
https://archives.library.wales/index.php/informationobject/browse?page=63&languages=cy&limit=10&sort=alphabetic&topLod=1
the alphabetic sorting work fine. I would expect alphabetic sorting of Unique records to behave the same way as the English and Welsh alphabetic sorting. Hope this explains things a bit better.
Thanks,
Vicky
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