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Steven DiFalco

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May 5, 2021, 11:58:32 AM5/5/21
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Hi All!

Thanks again for our meeting last week. Was encouraged by our meeting to get the webservice working for orthoimagery in ArcPro. Little different than than ArcMap, but seemed to work the same. Does anyone know when the 2021 imagery would possibly be available, and does this web service automatically update with newer data? I suspect yes, but figured I might ask this group. 

Thanks,

Steven 

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Land Project Coordinator
Westchester Land Trust
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Neil Curri

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May 5, 2021, 12:23:44 PM5/5/21
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I believe the "latest" WMS will always have the latest orthos available for any given area in the state. I missed the meeting last week, but I expect that's the one you saw or are using. You can expand the WMS in Catalog or in the Contents view to see different years available and turn them on and off to verify which year you're looking at for your area. Also, if you subscribe to the GISNY-L listserv, the NYS GIS Program Office sends updates regarding their Orthoimagery and other services out on this list, so you'll get that if you subscribe. 

Neil Curri, GISP
GIS Analyst, PVE, LLC
Vassar College Academic Computing Consultant


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David Richardson

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May 5, 2021, 1:35:10 PM5/5/21
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As Neil stated, the “latest” will always have the latest NYS orthos that are available being made visible. 

 

The 2021 ortho imagery will cover the Hudson Valley (Westchester to Saratoga, plus four western NY ones) with either 12-inch 4-band imagery or 6-inch 4-band imagery for 5 of the 14 counties who chipped in to upgrade the resolution (Westchester, Rockland, Ulster, Green, and eastern Albany). 

 

NY collects its air imagery under leaf-off and snow-free conditions, which can be challenging and short windows of opportunity in some years and force some flights planned for the spring to be delayed until fall instead.  As of March 2021, the NYS GIS Program Office expected counties in western NY plus Rockland and Westchester to become snow-free earliest, and so probably flown earlier in the flight season, whereas there was well above average snowpack in the Catskills which could delay flights there.  Draft flight plans were being reviewed in March.

 

But it always takes time to fly and then process and QAQC the imagery; typically what is flown in the spring is in review by the fall and released before the end of the year, while fall flights don’t become available until the next calendar year.

 

When the data is released, the “latest” webservice has the new orthos in it almost right away (it usually gets shipped to counties just ahead of when it is made available for download and incorporated into the webservices).

 

-Dave

 

P.S. as an aside, but maybe of interest to other land trust members in this chapter, does anyone else find the restrictions placed on remotely sensed monitoring of preserves, fee lands, and easements when conducting mandated annual monitoring for Land Trust Alliance (LTA) accreditation to be unnecessarily strict regarding when the imagery was collected (only during the current calendar year)?  While I understand the intent, it rules out using lots of state-collected ortho imagery by virtual of choosing “current calendar year” instead of, say, collected within 12 months of the time your review said imagery and write up your monitoring report(s)!

 

Not that we don’t do field inspections for annual monitoring at most all of our preserves at TNC in NY, but we have some remote and large acreage preserves and easements in the Adirondacks and Tug Hill where we’ve explored supplementing field work with remote sensing in an official way, but that “current calendar year” requirement always throws a wrench into being able to use and include perfectly good imagery from government collection campaigns (which also happen to largely be the only free sources, an important consideration for many non-profits).

 

 

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Steven DiFalco

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May 5, 2021, 1:58:45 PM5/5/21
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Thank you Neil and David for the information. I’m glad it will update automatically. I do like having the option to switch between the different years on this layer. Using the basemaps in Arc was getting tiresome, especially with Putnam having leaf-on and Westchester leaf-off.

 

Great update on the imagery, David! Looking forward to having that available also.

 

Re: your question on restrictions of calendar year data. It’s not free, but we used Near Map for the first time last year and had great success using it. Our area is covered one-three times a year so we’re able to satisfy that requirement. Although in our service area, things change quickly so a photo from March may not be very useful always in August depending on when flights occur. Nothing can really quite capture everything but it did a good job for our need. We have a much smaller service territory than TNC so the cost is kept much lower for us accessing that data. There is also an integration with Arc with NearMap also, but we have data usage restrictions so we often only download what is needed.    

 

Thanks again!


Steven

 

Steven DiFalco (he/him)
Land Project Coordinator
Westchester Land Trust
403 Harris Road, Bedford Hills, NY 10507

PH 914.234.6992 ext. 15

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Twitter: @WLT_NY

 

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Neil Curri

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May 5, 2021, 2:13:31 PM5/5/21
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Dave, what are the LTA requirements for inspections based on aerial imagery? If they don't necessitate any kind of processing or analysis, could a visual inspection using drone video suffice? You wouldn't need too fancy of a unit for that. Maybe an alternative to a service like Nearmap, which doesn't provide imagery in rural areas. 

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