REMINDER Professor Chris Field in conversation on the Climate Overshoot Commission report at the Healthy Planet Action Coalition meeting September 21, 4:30 PM EDT

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I am pleased to announce that Stanford Professor Chris Field, an advisor to the Climate Overshoot Commission (COC) will be our guest at the next Healthy Planet Action Coalition meeting this Thursday, September 21, at 4:30 PM EDT for 90 minutes. 

Mike MacCracken will moderate the conversation.


Access to previous HPAC meeting conversations can be found at
Healthyplanetaction.Org 

The Commission, a private entity sponsored by the Paris Peace Forum, has 12 members from all over the planet drawn mostly from those who previously held high-level governmental positions,  including several with strong backgrounds in climate change. 


Their previous Director Dr Jesse Reynolds spoke with HPAC in January. 





The COC report Reducing the Risks of Climate Overshoot was released on September 14. 





While the COC did not solicit public input it did hold a series of meetings to learn and discuss the full range of questions facing the international community in dealing with the risk of climate overshoot. 


Their 4-part high-level recommendations were summarized in the acronym CARE, for Cut (emissions), Adapt, Remove (CO2), and Explore (SRM).


Specifically, its recommendation on climate intervention advocated expanding research while placing "a moratorium on the deployment of solar radiation modification and large-scale outdoor experiments that would carry risk of significant transboundary harm." 


We look forward to getting a fuller understanding of their reasoning in discussion with Professor Field.


Chris Field is the Perry L. McCarty Director of the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment and the Melvin and Joan Lane Professor for Interdisciplinary Environmental Studies at Stanford University. 

Prior to his 2016 appointment at the Stanford Woods Institute, Field was a staff member at the Carnegie Institution for Science (1984-2002) and founding director of the Carnegie’s Department of Global Ecology (2002-2016). 

Field's research focuses on climate change, especially solutions that improve lives now, decrease the amount of future warming, and support vibrant economies. Recent projects emphasize decreasing risks from coastal flooding and wildfires. He has been deeply involved with national and international-efforts to advance understanding of global ecology and climate change. Field was co-chair of Working Group II of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) (2008-2015), where he led the effort on “Managing the Risks of Extreme Events and Disasters to Advance Climate Change Adaptation” (2012), and “Climate Change 2014: Impacts, Adaptation, and Vulnerability(2014). He was co-chair of the committee that produced the groundbreaking 2021 NASEM report that laid out a solar geoengineering (their term) research agenda.  He holds a bachelor’s degree in biology from Harvard College and a Ph.D. in biology from Stanford.
Please feel free to circulate this invitation to friends and colleagues. 

Herb

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John Nissen

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Sep 21, 2023, 5:58:28 PM9/21/23
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Hi everyone, here's the chat I got:

Ron Baiman  to  Everyone 21:42
For those interested, HPAC website with cooling and vision papers, open letters to public officials, and multiple presentations by climate science and policy folk: www.healthyplanetaction.org
HPAC tag line: "cool, reduce, and remove to restore the climate"

Philip Kithil  to  Everyone 21:46
IF? substantially larger? GUARANTEED LARGER.

Philip Kithil  to  Everyone 21:58
Phil Kithil CEO Ocean-based Climate Solutions Inc. www.ocean-based.com 1-505-231-7508 pki...@ocean-based.com. Wave-driven ocean upwelling to stimulate phytoplankton.

You  to  Everyone 21:59
The 1.5C was to avoid tipping points and committing to catastrophic climate change and sea level rise.  There's no sense of urgency for the keeping under 1.5C, which can only sensibly done through cooling intervention.  So who was applying pressure to have a moratorium on the deployment of SRM which may be essential.

Herb Simmens  to  Everyone 21:56
Welcome to those who are new to HPAC. We invite you to introduce yourself in the chat, and If you’re not on our mailing list and would like to be please leave your email here or to me directly at hsim...@gmail.com…Thanks for coming today!  Herb Simmens

Kevin Lister 21:58
Thanks Herb, just to say that I am now working on a book on how we adapt our education systems to climate change.

Kerry Nickols (she/her) 21:58
Kerry Nickols, Senior Program Officer with Ocean Visions, ke...@oceanvisions.org

Herb Simmens 22:00
Great topic - I’ll be eager to see your book…and if you’d like to present at one of our meetings let me know..

You  to  Everyone 22:08
The report was a crashing disappointment in not going further forward.  As Mike says, SRM is the only way to slow the warming, and huge risks are involved which the commission could have talked about.

Ron Baiman  to  Everyone 22:46
Finish Arctic Momentum youth group has taken up a similar agenda to HPAC and the CCCR etc.

Kerry Nickols (she/her)  to  Everyone 22:46
Opeeratio Arktis
Also new org just launched at NY Climate Week: SRM Youth Watch
https://www.srmyouthwatch.org

Ron Baiman  to  Everyone 22:47
👍

Barbara J. Sneath  to  Everyone 22:49
https://www.operaatioarktis.fi/en

Kerry Nickols (she/her)  to  Everyone 22:49
Their event was called Arctic Momentum, but org is Operaatio Arktis

Robert Tulip  to  Everyone 22:49
The concept of mitigation deterrence is fundamentally flawed.  Cutting emissions can do nothing in the short term to mitigate major immediate climate risks such as extreme weather events, temperature rise and systemic disruption.  Solar geoengineering is the only approach that can actually mitigate these impacts.  This is an ethical problem of indifference to suffering.

Barbara J. Sneath  to  Everyone 22:50
https://www.operaatioarktis.fi/_files/ugd/b0f58b_96b487a826a84aae9d7a3b96bb80f048.pdf

Herb Simmens  to  Everyone 22:51
Thank you Kelly - looks like a great group! And a great meeting in DC at RFF in September

Philip Kithil  to  Everyone 22:51
from a glance our average age is in the 70's? where are the young people?
ok, 60's!

Kerry Nickols (she/her)  to  Everyone 22:53
There are some young people doing incredible things and in new ways that hopefully create a better and more just world.

Ron Baiman  to  Everyone 22:53
Leader of the Finish group recently gave an HPAC presentation recorded on the website.
Thank you very much Chris!

Cheers, John


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The recording of the discussion with Professor Chris Field is at https://youtu.be/RATVY9v7vsI

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Herb or Michael- Thank you for the recording. I skimmed the video and couldn't find the meat. What were your two top take-aways from that 90 minute discussion?

Was there new information or a specific recommendation to a specific person or group coming out of the Overshoot Commission?

 

Peter

 

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Subject: [HCA-list] RE: [geo] REMINDER Professor Chris Field in conversation on the Climate Overshoot Commission report at the Healthy Planet Action Coalition meeting September 21, 4:30 PM EDT

The recording of the discussion with Professor Chris Field is at https://youtu.be/RATVY9v7vsI

 

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Subject: [geo] REMINDER Professor Chris Field in conversation on the Climate Overshoot Commission report at the Healthy Planet Action Coalition meeting September 21, 4:30 PM EDT

 




I am pleased to announce that Stanford Professor Chris Field, an advisor to the Climate Overshoot Commission (COC) will be our guest at the next Healthy Planet Action Coalition meeting this Thursday, September 21, at 4:30 PM EDT for 90 minutes. 

 

Mike MacCracken will moderate the conversation.

 

 

Access to previous HPAC meeting conversations can be found at

Healthyplanetaction.Org 

 

The Commission, a private entity sponsored by the Paris Peace Forum, has 12 members from all over the planet drawn mostly from those who previously held high-level governmental positions,  including several with strong backgrounds in climate change. 

 

Their previous Director Dr Jesse Reynolds spoke with HPAC in January. 

 

 

 

 

The COC report Reducing the Risks of Climate Overshoot was released on September 14. 

 

 

 

 

While the COC did not solicit public input it did hold a series of meetings to learn and discuss the full range of questions facing the international community in dealing with the risk of climate overshoot. 

 

Their 4-part high-level recommendations were summarized in the acronym CARE, for Cut (emissions), Adapt, Remove (CO2), and Explore (SRM).

 

Specifically, its recommendation on climate intervention advocated expanding research while placing "a moratorium on the deployment of solar radiation modification and large-scale outdoor experiments that would carry risk of significant transboundary harm." 

 

We look forward to getting a fuller understanding of their reasoning in discussion with Professor Field.

 

Chris Field is the Perry L. McCarty Director of the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment and the Melvin and Joan Lane Professor for Interdisciplinary Environmental Studies at Stanford University. 

Prior to his 2016 appointment at the Stanford Woods Institute, Field was a staff member at the Carnegie Institution for Science (1984-2002) and founding director of the Carnegie’s Department of Global Ecology (2002-2016). 

Field's research focuses on climate change, especially solutions that improve lives now, decrease the amount of future warming, and support vibrant economies. Recent projects emphasize decreasing risks from coastal flooding and wildfires. He has been deeply involved with national and international-efforts to advance understanding of global ecology and climate change. Field was co-chair of Working Group II of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) (2008-2015), where he led the effort on “Managing the Risks of Extreme Events and Disasters to Advance Climate Change Adaptation” (2012), and “Climate Change 2014: Impacts, Adaptation, and Vulnerability(2014). He was co-chair of the committee that produced the groundbreaking 2021 NASEM report that laid out a solar geoengineering (their term) research agenda.  He holds a bachelor’s degree in biology from Harvard College and a Ph.D. in biology from Stanford.

Please feel free to circulate this invitation to friends and colleagues. 

 

Herb

 

Herb Simmens
Author of A Climate Vocabulary of the Future

“A SciencePoem and an Inspiration.” Kim Stanley Robinson
@herbsimmens
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Hi Peter--

I'd suggest (without consulting Herb):

1. This is the first international body of high decision-maker level officials (former government, NGO, etc.) to actually keep climate intervention (at least not dismiss) on the table as policy that may well be needed as mitigation, adaptation and CDR seem quite unlikely to be enough to prevent overshoot (which they held on to barely as still possible, likely mainly because they kept relying on the IPCC time-lagged global average metric for the amount of warming to date).

2. While there are scientific uncertainties about intervention, the most critical issues about intervention being used now have to do with ethical and social justice (and related) issues that need to be addressed in a convincing way.

Mike MacCracken

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