The more detailed reply promised earlier:
After talking with Nathaniel and Phil E. earlier this summer we thought
an experiment to see whether GPSDOs are affected by geomagnetic activity
would be a good idea.
My hypothesis is that the low pass filter characteristic of the loop
disciplining the oscillator to the GPS timepulse will tend to filter out
transient effects. The narrower the filter (the longer the time
constant) the more the attenuation.
Since Sep. 5 I have been using four NanoVNAs with the TinyPFA firmware
to monitor the frequency of four devices against a passive maser:
(a) Bodnar Mini GPSDO
(b) u-blox NEO-M8T timepulse at 10 MHz
(c) a version of BG7TBL GPSDO with OCXO
(d) a Trimble Thunderbolt configured with a 250 second time constant
The raw NEO-M8T has essentially no filtering at all, the Bodnar a time
constant of a few seconds, the BG7TBL around 50-100 seconds, and the
Thunderbolt 250 seconds.
My hunch is that the impact of the TEC change isn't large relative to
the normal short-term noise of GPS, and with low pass nature of the
GPSDO control loop we are unlikely to see effects above the noise level
unless there's a really big event that happens very quickly.
In a quick look at the data around 9/19 and 9/20 I don't see any obvious
blips in any of the traces. However, that's by eyeball using simple
averaging to reduce the short-term noise. The averaging might well hide
the transients we're looking for.
I would like to recruit someone with better analytic skills than I to
help post-process this data to see if we can pull out any transients
that correlate to solar activity. Any volunteers? (Seriously.)
73,
John
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On 9/25/23 06:55, Jonathan wrote:
> A really cool effect was observed on the VLF system during the strong
> geomagnetic storming of 9/19 and 9/20. I believe that the scintillation
> of the GNSS signal during that period produced a lot of error in the
> timing solution of the GNSS receiver which resulted in a sawtooth
> characteristic in the absolute phase measurement in NAA, which that
> measurement is referenced to GNSS timing. This geomagnetic storming
> event caused visible aurora, characteristic of low latitudes (red
> emissions) across Pennsylvania.
>
> Here is the plot of the NAA diurnal on 9/19/23 showing the effect of the
> scintillation in the absolute phase measurement as well as two SIDs
> caused by solar flares:
>
> And on 9/20/23, showing more SIDs and the sawtooth effect past the
> initial onset of the geomagnetic storm:
>
> Not only that, the nighttime portion of the diurnal (00:00-10:00) show
> the D layer being affected by the CME, showing different absorption
> variation than the night before. There are some SIDs as well, so these
> plots are indicating quite a bit of activity and a really nice observation.
>
> Jonathan
> KC3EEY
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