GAM XTD3 Group creation issues

Blutarsky

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Aug 23, 2019, 6:29:28 AM8/23/19

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Good morning everyone,

while testing Google Groups creation with GAM ADV XTD3 I am facing this issues:

Upon first access to group info through Google Groups web interface, an error 438 is thrown. Once reloaded, no error is shown:

Group is listed in the Admin console, but it won't list in "My Groups" (Google Groups list), as if does not belong to the admin account, under wich it is being created (GAM account)

Description and Name are correctly set and visible in Admin Console, but are wrong in Google Groups group Information:

In Googlr Groups view:

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Blutarsky

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Aug 23, 2019, 6:31:25 AM8/23/19

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+KimNilsson

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Aug 23, 2019, 6:55:37 AM8/23/19

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Admin created groups aren't owned by the individual admin account.

As you can see it has zero members, including no owner.

Hence not listed in My groups.

Blutarsky

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Aug 23, 2019, 7:08:01 AM8/23/19

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Thanks Kim

Blutarsky

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Aug 24, 2019, 3:31:52 AM8/24/19

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As for the group description issue I have discovered that this is due to some incorrect GAM parsing of the command when a lot of parameters are used in the command.

So using gam create group "mygroupl@domain" name "My group name" description "Some description" will work correctly, while using full parameters won't (see example below)

Oddly, creating the group with just the name & description and then updating the group settings with full parameters, will work.

Full parameters sample:

gam create group "mygroupl@domain" name "My group name" description "Some description"`

allowExternalMembers true `

allowWebPosting false `

archiveOnly false `

customFooterText "' custom message '" `

customRolesEnabledForSettingsToBeMerged false `

defaultMessageDenyNotificationText "Not Allowed" `

enableCollaborativeInbox false `

includeCustomFooter true `

includeInGlobalAddressList true `

isArchived true `

membersCanPostAsTheGroup false `

messageModerationLevel MODERATE_NONE `

primaryLanguage en `

replyTo REPLY_TO_LIST `

sendMessageDenyNotification false `

spamModerationLevel MODERATE `

whoCanContactOwner ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_CONTACT `

whoCanJoin CAN_REQUEST_TO_JOIN `

whoCanLeaveGroup NONE_CAN_LEAVE `

whoCanPostMessage ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_POST `

whoCanViewGroup ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_VIEW `

whoCanViewMembership ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_VIEW `

whoCanDiscoverGroup ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_DISCOVER `

showInGroupDirectory true `

whoCanAssistContent OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanAssignTopics OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanEnterFreeFormTags OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanHideAbuse OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanMakeTopicsSticky OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanMarkDuplicate OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanMarkFavoriteReplyOnAnyTopic OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanMarkNoResponseNeeded OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanModifyTagsAndCategories OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanTakeTopics OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanUnassignTopic OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanUnmarkFavoriteReplyOnAnyTopic OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanModerateContent OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanApproveMessages OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanDeleteAnyPost OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanDeleteTopics OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanLockTopics OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanMoveTopicsIn OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanMoveTopicsOut OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanPostAnnouncements OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanModerateMembers OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanAdd ALL_OWNERS_CAN_ADD `

whoCanApproveMembers ALL_OWNERS_CAN_APPROVE `

whoCanBanUsers OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanInvite ALL_OWNERS_CAN_INVITE `

whoCanModifyMembers OWNERS_ONLY

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Ross Scroggs

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I don't believe that this is correct:

As for the group description issue I have discovered that this is due to some incorrect GAM parsing of the command when a lot of parameters are used in the command.

Look for comments marked by *********

PS C:\GamTest> gam config debug_level 1 create group "testgroupps" name "Test Group PS Name" description "Test Group PS Description"`

connect: (www.googleapis.com, 443)

send: b'GET /discovery/v1/apis/admin/directory_v1/rest HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: www.googleapis.com\r\nuser-agent: Python-httplib2/0.13.0 (gzip)\r\naccept-encoding: gzip, deflate\r\nif-none-match: "9eZ1uxVRThTDhLJCZHhqs3eQWz4/5HuD5_WBYDvRWcfO5I5hjCFh4pY"\r\n\r\n'

reply: 'HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified\r\n'

header: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:28:56 GMT

header: Expires: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:33:56 GMT

header: Age: 34

header: ETag: "9eZ1uxVRThTDhLJCZHhqs3eQWz4/5HuD5_WBYDvRWcfO5I5hjCFh4pY"

header: Alt-Svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000; v="46,43,39"

connect: (oauth2.googleapis.com, 443)

send: b'POST /token HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: oauth2.googleapis.com\r\nContent-Length: 202\r\ncontent-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\r\nuser-agent: GAMADV-XTD3 4.90.07 - https://github.com/taers232c/GAMADV-XTD3 / Ross Scroggs <ross.s...@gmail.com> / Python 3.7.4 final / Windows-10-10.0.18362 AMD64 /\r\naccept-encoding: gzip, deflate\r\n\r\n'

send: b'grant_type=refresh_token&client_id=xxx&client_secret=xxx&refresh_token=1%2FhYTioaC4y9mUEAMWcRNpeB6A_gcTfWmTb8YZ3gYJnw9vuRp_NsVW5JRxUQLi6Dal'

reply: 'HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n'

header: Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8

header: Vary: Origin

header: Vary: X-Origin

header: Vary: Referer

header: Content-Encoding: gzip

header: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:29:31 GMT

header: Server: scaffolding on HTTPServer2

header: Cache-Control: private

header: X-XSS-Protection: 0

header: X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN

header: X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff

header: Alt-Svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000; v="46,43,39"

header: Transfer-Encoding: chunked

connect: (www.googleapis.com, 443)

send: b'GET /discovery/v1/apis/groupssettings/v1/rest HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: www.googleapis.com\r\nuser-agent: Python-httplib2/0.13.0 (gzip)\r\naccept-encoding: gzip, deflate\r\nif-none-match: "9eZ1uxVRThTDhLJCZHhqs3eQWz4/V2V-RMnoYCfSSC985XKqZdYWInI"\r\n\r\n'

reply: 'HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified\r\n'

header: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:25:59 GMT

header: Expires: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:30:59 GMT

header: Age: 212

header: ETag: "9eZ1uxVRThTDhLJCZHhqs3eQWz4/V2V-RMnoYCfSSC985XKqZdYWInI"

header: Alt-Svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000; v="46,43,39"

send: b'POST /admin/directory/v1/groups?fields=&prettyPrint=true&alt=json HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: www.googleapis.com\r\naccept: application/json\r\naccept-encoding: gzip, deflate\r\nuser-agent: GAMADV-XTD3 4.90.09 - https://github.com/taers232c/GAMADV-XTD3 / Ross Scroggs <ross.s...@gmail.com> / Python 3.7.4 final / Windows-10-10.0.18362 AMD64 / google-api-python-client/1.7.8 (gzip)\r\ncontent-type: application/json\r\ncontent-length: 37\r\nauthorization: Bearer xxxx\r\n\r\n'

send: b'{"email": "testg...@rdschool.org"}'

reply: 'HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n'

header: Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store, max-age=0, must-revalidate

header: Pragma: no-cache

header: Expires: Mon, 01 Jan 1990 00:00:00 GMT

header: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:29:32 GMT

header: ETag: "SXFHf-A4wQx02aM-7Cegj6o2Lk8/f4buUjaX4mIBu2AqR7brdSehFbA"

header: Vary: Origin

header: Vary: X-Origin

header: Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8

header: Content-Encoding: gzip

header: X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff

header: X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN

header: X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block

header: Server: GSE

header: Alt-Svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000; v="46,43,39"

header: Transfer-Encoding: chunked

send: b'PUT /groups/v1/groups/testgroupps%40rdschool.org?fields=&prettyPrint=true&alt=json HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: www.googleapis.com\r\naccept: application/json\r\naccept-encoding: gzip, deflate\r\nuser-agent: GAMADV-XTD3 4.90.09 - https://github.com/taers232c/GAMADV-XTD3 / Ross Scroggs <ross.s...@gmail.com> / Python 3.7.4 final / Windows-10-10.0.18362 AMD64 / google-api-python-client/1.7.8 (gzip)\r\ncontent-type: application/json\r\ncontent-length: 2133\r\nauthorization: Bearer xxxx\r\n\r\n'

******* Note that description is set in the API call

send: b'{"name": "Test Group PS Name", "description": "Test Group PS Description", "allowExternalMembers": "true", "allowWebPosting": "false", "archiveOnly": "false", "customFooterText": "\' custom message \'", "customRolesEnabledForSettingsToBeMerged": "false", "defaultMessageDenyNotificationText": "Not Allowed", "enableCollaborativeInbox": "false", "includeCustomFooter": "true", "includeInGlobalAddressList": "true", "isArchived": "true", "membersCanPostAsTheGroup": "false", "messageModerationLevel": "MODERATE_NONE", "primaryLanguage": "en", "replyTo": "REPLY_TO_LIST", "sendMessageDenyNotification": "false", "spamModerationLevel": "MODERATE", "whoCanContactOwner": "ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_CONTACT", "whoCanJoin": "CAN_REQUEST_TO_JOIN", "whoCanLeaveGroup": "NONE_CAN_LEAVE", "whoCanPostMessage": "ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_POST", "whoCanViewGroup": "ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_VIEW", "whoCanViewMembership": "ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_VIEW", "whoCanDiscoverGroup": "ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_DISCOVER", "showInGroupDirectory": "true", "whoCanAssistContent": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanAssignTopics": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanEnterFreeFormTags": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanHideAbuse": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanMakeTopicsSticky": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanMarkDuplicate": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanMarkFavoriteReplyOnAnyTopic": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanMarkNoResponseNeeded": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanModifyTagsAndCategories": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanTakeTopics": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanUnassignTopic": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanUnmarkFavoriteReplyOnAnyTopic": "OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS", "whoCanModerateContent": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanApproveMessages": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanDeleteAnyPost": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanDeleteTopics": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanLockTopics": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanMoveTopicsIn": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanMoveTopicsOut": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanPostAnnouncements": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanModerateMembers": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanAdd": "ALL_OWNERS_CAN_ADD", "whoCanApproveMembers": "ALL_OWNERS_CAN_APPROVE", "whoCanBanUsers": "OWNERS_ONLY", "whoCanInvite": "ALL_OWNERS_CAN_INVITE", "whoCanModifyMembers": "OWNERS_ONLY"}'

reply: 'HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n'

header: Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store, max-age=0, must-revalidate

header: Pragma: no-cache

header: Expires: Mon, 01 Jan 1990 00:00:00 GMT

header: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:29:33 GMT

header: ETag: "35JxiCoy0C84zB9Pj9KVHRlY6LI/p8IuDNtceg8EEEqpTl-hcvrwbFg"

header: Vary: Origin

header: Vary: X-Origin

header: Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8

header: Content-Encoding: gzip

header: X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff

header: X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN

header: X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block

header: Server: GSE

header: Alt-Svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000; v="46,43,39"

header: Transfer-Encoding: chunked

Group: testg...@rdschool.org, Created

PS C:\GamTest> gam info group testgroupps

Group: testg...@rdschool.org

Group Settings:

id: 017dp8vu0hy8o94

name: Test Group PS Name

******* The description is set

description: Test Group PS Description

directMembersCount: 0

adminCreated: True

allowExternalMembers: true

allowWebPosting: false

archiveOnly: false

customFooterText: ' custom message '

customReplyTo:

Deprecated:

allowGoogleCommunication: false

favoriteRepliesOnTop: true

maxMessageBytes: 25M

messageDisplayFont: DEFAULT_FONT

whoCanAddReferences: NONE

whoCanMarkFavoriteReplyOnOwnTopic: NONE

Members: (0)

Total Members in Group: 0

PS C:\GamTest>

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Blutarsky

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Hi Ross,

tr this:

gam config debug_level 1 create group "mytestg@domain" name "My Test Group" description "the group description" allowExternalMembers true allowWebPosting false archiveOnly false customFooterText "'Questo messaggio può essere di natura confidenziale. Se non siete il legittimo destinatario, è vietato copiare o intraprendere alcuna azione basata sui contenuti dello stesso. Comunicate ciò al mittente ed eliminate il messaggio e gli allegati. I contenuti del messaggio e dei suoi allegati non riflettono necessariamente la volontà di (CDG), che si dissocia da qualsiasi contenuto che sia lesivo o in contrasto con le attività di CDG..This message and any attachments is intended for specific recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender, delete this message and do not disclose, distribute or copy it to any third party or otherwise use this message. The content of this message does not necessarily reflect the official position of (CDG), that will not be responsible for any actions, statements or opinions expressed that are not related to CDG activities, or in contrast with its guidelines.'" customRolesEnabledForSettingsToBeMerged false defaultMessageDenyNotificationText "Not Allowed" enableCollaborativeInbox false includeCustomFooter true includeInGlobalAddressList true isArchived true membersCanPostAsTheGroup false messageModerationLevel MODERATE_NONE primaryLanguage en replyTo REPLY_TO_LIST sendMessageDenyNotification false spamModerationLevel MODERATE whoCanContactOwner ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_CONTACT whoCanJoin CAN_REQUEST_TO_JOIN whoCanLeaveGroup NONE_CAN_LEAVE whoCanPostMessage ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_POST whoCanViewGroup ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_VIEW whoCanViewMembership ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_VIEW whoCanDiscoverGroup ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_DISCOVER showInGroupDirectory true whoCanAssistContent OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanAssignTopics OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanEnterFreeFormTags OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanHideAbuse OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanMakeTopicsSticky OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanMarkDuplicate OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanMarkFavoriteReplyOnAnyTopic OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanMarkNoResponseNeeded OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanModifyTagsAndCategories OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanTakeTopics OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanUnassignTopic OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanUnmarkFavoriteReplyOnAnyTopic OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS whoCanModerateContent OWNERS_ONLY whoCanApproveMessages OWNERS_ONLY whoCanDeleteAnyPost OWNERS_ONLY whoCanDeleteTopics OWNERS_ONLY whoCanLockTopics OWNERS_ONLY whoCanMoveTopicsIn OWNERS_ONLY whoCanMoveTopicsOut OWNERS_ONLY whoCanPostAnnouncements OWNERS_ONLY whoCanModerateMembers OWNERS_ONLY whoCanAdd ALL_OWNERS_CAN_ADD whoCanApproveMembers ALL_OWNERS_CAN_APPROVE whoCanBanUsers OWNERS_ONLY whoCanInvite ALL_OWNERS_CAN_INVITE whoCanModifyMembers OWNERS_ONLY

On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 12:29:28 PM UTC+2, Blutarsky wrote:

Blutarsky

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I meant "try this"

Ross Scroggs

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I did try your example and posted it.

It clearly shows in the debug output that the description was passed to the API.

The subsequent gam info group command shows that the description was set.

If it doesn't show up correctly in Google Groups, that is a Google issue, you need to talk to them.

Is there some other issue?

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+KimNilsson

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Also, Riccardo,

showInGroupDirectory true is deprecated, and can't actually be set/used anymore.

There could be more settings that aren't used anymore, but I haven't checked them all.

Google changed quite a few settings this summer, and maybe the wiki documentation hasn't been updated.

And, there is no point in pushing settings that have the same value as the default setting. That's just wasting API calls and time.

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You are setting many deprecated options: see https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-ux3z6-hcjsPbhAj_EIwS7cd_emkE-NC/view

In the following list, all of the deprecated options have an extra level of indentation

$ gam info group testgroup1

Group: testg...@domain.com

  Group Settings:

    id: xxx

    name: Test Group1

    description: Test Group1 Description

    directMembersCount: 13

    adminCreated: True

    allowExternalMembers: false

    allowWebPosting: true

    archiveOnly: false

    customFooterText:

    customReplyTo:

    customRolesEnabledForSettingsToBeMerged: false

    defaultMessageDenyNotificationText:

    enableCollaborativeInbox: false

    includeCustomFooter: false

    includeInGlobalAddressList: true

    isArchived: true

    membersCanPostAsTheGroup: false

    messageModerationLevel: MODERATE_NONE

    replyTo: REPLY_TO_IGNORE

    sendMessageDenyNotification: false

    spamModerationLevel: MODERATE

    whoCanContactOwner: ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_CONTACT

    whoCanJoin: CAN_REQUEST_TO_JOIN

    whoCanLeaveGroup: ALL_MEMBERS_CAN_LEAVE

    whoCanPostMessage: ALL_MEMBERS_CAN_POST

    whoCanViewGroup: ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_VIEW

    whoCanViewMembership: ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_VIEW

    whoCanDiscoverGroup: ALL_MEMBERS_CAN_DISCOVER

      showInGroupDirectory: false

    whoCanAssistContent: NONE

      whoCanAssignTopics: NONE

      whoCanEnterFreeFormTags: NONE

      whoCanHideAbuse: NONE

      whoCanMakeTopicsSticky: NONE

      whoCanMarkDuplicate: NONE

      whoCanMarkFavoriteReplyOnAnyTopic: NONE

      whoCanMarkNoResponseNeeded: NONE

      whoCanModifyTagsAndCategories: NONE

      whoCanTakeTopics: NONE

      whoCanUnassignTopic: NONE

      whoCanUnmarkFavoriteReplyOnAnyTopic: NONE

    whoCanModerateContent: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS

      whoCanApproveMessages: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS

      whoCanDeleteAnyPost: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS

      whoCanDeleteTopics: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS

      whoCanLockTopics: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS

      whoCanMoveTopicsIn: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS

      whoCanMoveTopicsOut: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS

      whoCanPostAnnouncements: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS

    whoCanModerateMembers: OWNERS_ONLY

      whoCanAdd: ALL_OWNERS_CAN_ADD

      whoCanApproveMembers: ALL_OWNERS_CAN_APPROVE

      whoCanBanUsers: OWNERS_ONLY

      whoCanInvite: ALL_OWNERS_CAN_INVITE

      whoCanModifyMembers: OWNERS_ONLY

    Deprecated:

      allowGoogleCommunication: false

      favoriteRepliesOnTop: true

      maxMessageBytes: 25M

      messageDisplayFont: DEFAULT_FONT

      whoCanAddReferences: NONE

      whoCanMarkFavoriteReplyOnOwnTopic: NONE

  Members: (13)

...

  Total Members in Group: 13

You can ask Gam to suppress the deprecated options:

$ gam info group testgroup1 nodeprectaed
Group: testg...@domain.com
  Group Settings:
    id: xxx
    name: Test Group1
    description: Test Group1 Description
    directMembersCount: 13
    adminCreated: True
    allowExternalMembers: false
    allowWebPosting: true
    archiveOnly: false
    customFooterText:
    customReplyTo:
    customRolesEnabledForSettingsToBeMerged: false
    defaultMessageDenyNotificationText:
    enableCollaborativeInbox: false
    includeCustomFooter: false

    includeInGlobalAddressList: true
    isArchived: true
    membersCanPostAsTheGroup: false
    messageModerationLevel: MODERATE_NONE

    replyTo: REPLY_TO_IGNORE
    sendMessageDenyNotification: false
    spamModerationLevel: MODERATE
    whoCanContactOwner: ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_CONTACT
    whoCanJoin: CAN_REQUEST_TO_JOIN
    whoCanLeaveGroup: ALL_MEMBERS_CAN_LEAVE
    whoCanPostMessage: ALL_MEMBERS_CAN_POST
    whoCanViewGroup: ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_VIEW
    whoCanViewMembership: ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_VIEW
    whoCanDiscoverGroup: ALL_MEMBERS_CAN_DISCOVER
    whoCanAssistContent: NONE
    whoCanModerateContent: OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS
    whoCanModerateMembers: OWNERS_ONLY
  Members: (13)
    ...
  Total Members in Group: 13

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On Aug 25, 2019, at 4:45 AM, Blutarsky <riccar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Blutarsky

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Hi guys,

I have removed the deprecated options (strange to notice that deprecated options are created automatically regardless if set explicitly or not.

The group will be created and will show correct name and description BUT it will be shown incorrectky in Google Groups web interface.

For now I am bypassing the problem creating the group and then updating.

Thanks for helping!

Used command:

gam create group "testg@domain" name "The Name" description "The Description" `

allowExternalMembers true `

allowWebPosting false `

archiveOnly false `

customRolesEnabledForSettingsToBeMerged false `

enableCollaborativeInbox false `

includeCustomFooter true `

includeInGlobalAddressList true `

isArchived true `

membersCanPostAsTheGroup false `

messageModerationLevel MODERATE_NONE `

primaryLanguage en `

replyTo REPLY_TO_LIST `

sendMessageDenyNotification false `

spamModerationLevel MODERATE `

whoCanContactOwner ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_CONTACT `

whoCanJoin CAN_REQUEST_TO_JOIN `

whoCanLeaveGroup NONE_CAN_LEAVE `

whoCanPostMessage ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_POST `

whoCanViewGroup ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_VIEW `

whoCanViewMembership ALL_MANAGERS_CAN_VIEW `

whoCanDiscoverGroup ALL_IN_DOMAIN_CAN_DISCOVER `

whoCanAssistContent OWNERS_AND_MANAGERS `

whoCanModerateContent OWNERS_ONLY `

whoCanModerateMembers OWNERS_ONLY `

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On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 12:29:28 PM UTC+2, Blutarsky wrote:

+KimNilsson

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Aug 28, 2019, 1:10:07 AM8/28/19

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Switching focus on the conversation... why do you include so much junk in the custom footer?

It only increases your risk of having your emails labeled as spam.

Nobody reads it, nobody cares, and it's legally invalid.

It's just waste of everyone's bandwidth and email storage.

Blutarsky

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Aug 28, 2019, 6:53:15 AM8/28/19

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Kim,

there's a long debate on legal validity of email disclaimers. All of this is essentially intended to protect the sender, as (quoted <<in theory is that if you say "this is confidential" or "this is not intended to form a contract" somewhere in an email, and a dispute ever comes up, it will make it easier to prove that the other party breached confidentiality or was unreasonable in relying on the message as serving to create a contract, etc>>

For this reason here in Italy there's an implicit recommendation to use email disclaimers, and those (in our case), had never been marked as spam (why it would?).

Bandwidth & storage? Honestly a 929 Byte increase (0.907227 KB!!!) doesn't seem to ba a main concern in this media overbloating-era (Whatsapp, Instagram, Photos and any other social media "transport" service)

+KimNilsson

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Aug 28, 2019, 1:19:57 PM8/28/19

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The spam risk is, your domain keepd sending a piece of data that is the same in thousands, tens, or hundreds of thousands of emails around the world.

hehe, well, multiply those bytes with the million, billion, trillion emails sent every day around the world. You're contributing to the waste of bw. :-)

I have the same opinion about those who insist on having images in their signature. :-/ Sometimes large high quality images and several.

I don't even send my own signature every time. I have one, but I try to stick to only ever using it once in an email thread, and purposely delete unnecessary text when replying. Just like I do here, in this forum. I rarely ever leave the old text when posting. It's stored here, so I don't feel it's necessary for me to send it again.

Totally understand your position, though.

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