Best way to migrate a number of users from one Gsuite education domain to another?

[Tom]

Hello all,

I administer two different education gsuite domains. We have decided that we want to just have the one domain, and as a result I have approximately 400 students that I want to migrate from one domain to another.

I've been reading through the data transfer options here: https://support.google.com/a/answer/1041297?hl=en as well as what is possible with GAM.

I think for emails and contacts, the data transfer option via the gsuite admin console might be the simplest way.

For drive data though, I'm not sure. I know that Google Takeout Transfer exists ( https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6386856?hl=en ) but I'm not sure if:

a) It can be automated in any way

b) If it supports going from one gsuite domain to another (the way it is worded sounds like it is only meant for gsuite to non-gsuite?)

Can anyone share any suggestions / advise on the best way to tackle this?

Apologies in advance if this has already been asked- I searched the wiki for GAM and this group and didn't find an exact match.

Thanks :-)

[Leen Jonkman]

my suggestion is to contact google help, they wil help you with this 

best regards,

 Leen Jonkman

Op do 17 mei 2018 om 09:20 schreef Tom <626e...@gmail.com>:

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[Tom]

Thanks, but I have already asked Google support about this, and all they do is point me to the google support pages I already posted.

I already use GAM for some basic things, I was just hoping there might be some ways I could use it in this instance. Or if not, someone on here might have the knowledge and experience to point me in the right direction.

On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 6:01:10 PM UTC+10, Leen Jonkman wrote:

my suggestion is to contact google help, they wil help you with this 

best regards,

 Leen Jonkman

Op do 17 mei 2018 om 09:20 schreef Tom <626e...@gmail.com>:

Hello all,

I administer two different education gsuite domains. We have decided that we want to just have the one domain, and as a result I have approximately 400 students that I want to migrate from one domain to another.

I've been reading through the data transfer options here: https://support.google.com/a/answer/1041297?hl=en as well as what is possible with GAM.

I think for emails and contacts, the data transfer option via the gsuite admin console might be the simplest way.

For drive data though, I'm not sure. I know that Google Takeout Transfer exists ( https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6386856?hl=en ) but I'm not sure if:

a) It can be automated in any way

b) If it supports going from one gsuite domain to another (the way it is worded sounds like it is only meant for gsuite to non-gsuite?)

Can anyone share any suggestions / advise on the best way to tackle this?

Apologies in advance if this has already been asked- I searched the wiki for GAM and this group and didn't find an exact match.

Thanks :-)

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[✉ Kevin Melillo]

I know there are migration tools that can migrate Drive documents as well as email\contacts\calendar.  

CloudMigrator is the one I have used.  The permissions and sharing maps are created prior to the migration, so sharing will still be in place on the target side as well.  

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 6:50 AM Tom <626e...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, but I have already asked Google support about this, and all they do is point me to the google support pages I already posted.

I already use GAM for some basic things, I was just hoping there might be some ways I could use it in this instance. Or if not, someone on here might have the knowledge and experience to point me in the right direction.

On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 6:01:10 PM UTC+10, Leen Jonkman wrote:

my suggestion is to contact google help, they wil help you with this 

best regards,

 Leen Jonkman

Op do 17 mei 2018 om 09:20 schreef Tom <626e...@gmail.com>:

Hello all,

I administer two different education gsuite domains. We have decided that we want to just have the one domain, and as a result I have approximately 400 students that I want to migrate from one domain to another.

I've been reading through the data transfer options here: https://support.google.com/a/answer/1041297?hl=en as well as what is possible with GAM.

I think for emails and contacts, the data transfer option via the gsuite admin console might be the simplest way.

For drive data though, I'm not sure. I know that Google Takeout Transfer exists ( https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6386856?hl=en ) but I'm not sure if:

a) It can be automated in any way

b) If it supports going from one gsuite domain to another (the way it is worded sounds like it is only meant for gsuite to non-gsuite?)

Can anyone share any suggestions / advise on the best way to tackle this?

Apologies in advance if this has already been asked- I searched the wiki for GAM and this group and didn't find an exact match.

Thanks :-)

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[+KimNilsson]

Hi, Tom!

a. There's no automation, but, can't you ask your users to do it themselves? Following the devise "If you can't automate, delegate!" :-)

b. I'm fairly sure that Takeout Transfer don't care which type of Google account is the recipient. Do note that it's not a transfer. It's a copy. this also means you can test it with a single user to make sure. Also, I'm sure you will not get a copy of Contacts with Takeout Transfer. So for that you need to do an Export/Import in Contacts.

Worth noting that Cloud Migrator is not even close to free.

/Kim

On Thursday, 17 May 2018 09:20:03 UTC+2, Tom wrote:

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...Google Takeout Transfer...

a) It can be automated in any way

b) If it supports going from one gsuite domain to another (the way it is worded sounds like it is only meant for gsuite to non-gsuite?)

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[Tom]

Hi Kim,

Thanks for your reply, you are correct on all counts.

I have tested and confirmed that takeout transfer works fine between two Gsuite Education domains. It transfers email and drive content, which are the main things we are after.

Unfortunately, as you as, no way to automate the takeout transfer process that I can see. The manual steps are:

Step 0. Make sure takeouts is enabled for the Gsuite users in your domain

Step 1. Initiate transfer from the users' accounts.google.com page. You need to enter the receiving google account, and choose if you want to transfer email, drive, or both

Step 2. A verification code is sent to the receiving google account, so you need to access this and enter it on the takeout transfer page of the account that you are transferring from

Step 3. Transfer begins. Emails are sent at the start and end of the transfer, to both accounts involved.

Although I'd love to 'delegate' as you suggest, I don't have management buy-in for this option. Basically, I'll be presenting management with:

a) Allocate me the time / manpower to manually do this process

b) Pay Cloud Migrator to do it.

b) would be nice, but I suspect a) will be what happens.

Thanks all for the replies.

[+KimNilsson]

a. You can't do Takeout Transfer for someone else.

b. They will still have to pay to get it done. Either making you waste countless hours = $$$$, or pay someone else to do it, without interrupting anyone's day-to-day work.

Tell them that I am currently running a project of migrating two separate municipalities, with several thousand users being told to do the takeout (transfer) themselves, if they want to keep any of their data.