Having lost all my data

Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 4, 2016, 3:30:06 PM1/4/16

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Hi there,

I'm google apps and google app engine (count

www.jexposecvu.com my website is built with vosao java cms I'm one of the developers.

The problem is that for a reason I don't explain : I HAVE LOST ALL MY DATA.

Is it possible to restore data from one day or week ago ?

Any help is welcome before i hang myself...

Thank you

Emilio

Adam (Cloud Platform Support)

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Jan 4, 2016, 4:33:33 PM1/4/16

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Since your site points to a template I assume the data you lost was your App Engine application? When you navigate to App Engine -> Versions in the Developers Console, do you see any previous versions there? If so, you may be able to set an older version as default.

If you had accidentally deployed over the default version, any data your app has stored should still be available for export. Try going to Datastore - Dashboard to see if any entities are there, and if they are you can go to Datastore - Admin to enable the Datastore admin and export any entities. If you used CloudSQL to store your data, try going to SQL - > (instance name) to see if it contains data, then 'Export' to export it.

Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 5, 2016, 1:44:52 PM1/5/16

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Hello Adam,

What exactly happened is that my site was blocked because of quota limit on reading database (little bug on automatic saving). No new cms version was deployed for long time.

My site is built on cms and new content of the site (new pages) were added on cms data model in the datastore

The day after I found that the default site had been created in place of my data. The data of my site in the datastore was entirely replaced by vosao default site.

Reseting one's site and loading default site is theorically only possible by confirming 2 dialog boxes so i don't know yet where the bug was cr.

Mu first problem is as cms user : my 2 years editorial content and design site are erased from datastore

I warmly need an exceptional restore of my datastore from your data center.

My gae account is this email

My GAE application is "vuecritique"

Please I'm a vosao developer in google community.

I know that all is possible for you.

regards,

Emilio

Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 8, 2016, 12:54:26 PM1/8/16

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I've found the logs of Monday 4st and i've found how it could happen.

Google CMS (Vosao) has the biggest lack of security i've ever found. the relative /setup URL is wide opened and reinits the DB.

Second Google Bot crawled this URL for the first time in two years despite of no link points to it.

Good job !

Adam (Cloud Platform Support)

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Jan 8, 2016, 6:03:00 PM1/8/16

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Unfortunately the Datastore doesn't journal old data or keep it's own internal backups that we could roll back to. The only backup facility for Datastore that exists is the Datastore Admin backup to Cloud Storage (or blobstore), so you might want to also check if you had this enabled and if there are any backups saved.

Regarding security I'm not aware that Vosao is affiliated with Google (there's nothing officially called 'Google CMS'). The only connection is that it's hosted on Google Code and made to work with App Engine. It looks to be an all-volunteer open source project that is now inactive (from the project's Facebook page - the project's website is now defunct).

Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 10, 2016, 9:21:16 AM1/10/16

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Google has killed me

Jeff Schnitzer

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Jan 10, 2016, 2:52:24 PM1/10/16

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Google didn't kill you. You ran some poorly-built opensource software that you didn't understand and you misconfigured it in a way that produced a ticking time bomb. I have a lot of sympathy for you - mistakes like this are easy to make - but you can't blame the hosting platform for your mistake.

If you want to get angry at someone, maybe the Vosao team deserve some ire for creating a default configuration that invites problems like this. However, it sounds like this software has been abandoned and there's nobody left to get angry at.

Jeff

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Google has killed me

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Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 11, 2016, 5:31:01 AM1/11/16

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Schnitzer,

I did'nt misconfigured anything.

You don't need to be so angry if you don't read my posts :

Google killed me as far as Google bot crawled /setup relative link which is pointed by nothing on the net (according to Google itself).

Google killed me introducing its dagger in a vulnerability of Vosao which was the only CMS working in Java GAE Platform.

and you ? are you a killer too ?

well, Google just killed me !

timh

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Jan 11, 2016, 5:57:02 AM1/11/16

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Any bot could have done crawled /setup on your site.

Such a handler should have at least been protected with admin required permission.

If the handler has been there for some time then it was always a ticking time bomb.

I would say your lucky it hadn't happened earlier.

I didn't read Jeff response as being angry, just stating the facts.

T

Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 11, 2016, 6:31:47 AM1/11/16

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Google has killed me

Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 11, 2016, 6:36:31 AM1/11/16

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There are other facts that you are able to read.

Any bot could crawl this relative url if it is pointed.

But Google itself says it does not exist. So why dit it crawl it ?

Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 11, 2016, 6:40:47 AM1/11/16

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Tim, Schnitzer and others you are not obliged to answer if you don't want to read reality.

Emilio Sanchez

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Jan 11, 2016, 6:42:09 AM1/11/16

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I'm only here to ask for data recovering

Emilio S

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Jan 11, 2016, 6:44:40 AM1/11/16

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Because Google has killed me !

Kaan Soral

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Jan 12, 2016, 6:00:08 AM1/12/16

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Funnily, google search might help you recover your data, just search your website on "Google.com", recover anything that is "Cached"

I'm sure we all lost stuff similar to you, It's part of computer engineering and computer life in general, you lose stuff, you learn not to lose stuff, you learn how to backup

Just don't cry and blame your mistakes on others please, I personally visited all the /setup's on Vosao's example websites, none of them had your issue

Other than these, I'm sympathetic to your issue, no one wants to experience what you experienced

My suggestion is, jump to the 5th step, accept what happened and move on from there

Emilio S

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Jan 12, 2016, 9:53:06 AM1/12/16

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You have tried /setup to web sites runned with Vosao

I'm not sure that you really tried to do so killer

Emilio S

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Jan 12, 2016, 10:32:47 AM1/12/16

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Google killed me ! and 3 of its Sith applaud

Be sure that another will come soon

Dark side of computing

Kaan Soral

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Jan 12, 2016, 2:56:09 PM1/12/16

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I'm pretty sure you are one of a kind

I feel lucky that I got a glimpse of such a unique personality

It would be even more unique if your age is 20+

Emilio S

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Jan 13, 2016, 4:18:37 PM1/13/16

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Thank you Google Troll !!

and big thanks for your relevant contribution

Emilio S

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Jan 13, 2016, 4:20:43 PM1/13/16

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Google killed me !

Marcel Manz

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Jan 13, 2016, 4:56:03 PM1/13/16

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If this is true

> Please I'm a vosao developer in google community.

you should have been very much aware of the processes that are integrated in this software and that hitting a URL like /setup could kill your business.

Sorry to say, but this has nothing to do with Google. This is entirely your very own problem in placing content online and assuming that Google will be able to help you, after commands from a software deployed in your very own application deleted relevant entities in Datastore.

There are tools available like datastore admin where you could have taken backups of your "life work". If you misinterpreted cloud and assumed that Google never ever would 'actually' delete data for real, you must be seriously mistaken.

The first thing that you should have done is make sure to remove that /setup URI or have it protected by some authentication process. Leaving a URI like /hit-me-and-this-will-kill-me wide open in the internet is simply your own fault.

We operate a multi million dollar business on GAE and don't make the same stupid mistakes as you did. I bet your account is not even protected by using 2FA / Google Authenticator.

Start to learn the basics in cloud business, restart and learn from your fault. But please do us all a favour and stop posting "Google killed me", you just make a more fool of yourself.

Regards
Marcel

Emilio S

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Jan 14, 2016, 12:59:49 PM1/14/16

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Another one !

-

I'm only going to precise (if you do believe me) that i did'nt develop the /setup part of the cms but only

fixed known bugs to release 1.0 version...)

Emilio S

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Jan 14, 2016, 1:00:34 PM1/14/16

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But what's the trouble with what i said if i m such a fool Trolls...

Emilio S

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Jan 14, 2016, 1:02:15 PM1/14/16

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Google just KILLED ME !

Kaan Soral

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Jan 14, 2016, 1:04:23 PM1/14/16

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https://code.google.com/p/vosao/source/browse/trunk/pom.xml

You are listed as a "Maintenance Developer"

Shut up and maintain your shit properly

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 8:02:15 PM UTC+2, Emilio S wrote:

Google just KILLED ME !

Emilio S

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Jan 14, 2016, 1:28:33 PM1/14/16

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Google killed me killer troll !

Emilio S

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Jan 14, 2016, 1:31:27 PM1/14/16

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Google killed me !

irrelevant /setup for a search user... and pfiou... Nothing

Don't be angry

Google killed me !

Emilio S

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Jan 14, 2016, 1:34:05 PM1/14/16

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Another Google Troll Attack ?

Or any Marcel Proust reader or Da Vinci devoted amateur ?

Emilio S

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Jan 14, 2016, 1:35:27 PM1/14/16

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Google killed me !

Richard Cheesmar

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Jan 14, 2016, 2:34:16 PM1/14/16

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Google, for goodness sakes Kill this thread!

On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 10:30:06 PM UTC+2, Emilio S wrote:

Hi there,

I'm google apps and google app engine (count

www.jexposecvu.com my website is built with vosao java cms I'm one of the developers.

The problem is that for a reason I don't explain : I HAVE LOST ALL MY DATA.

Is it possible to restore data from one day or week ago ?

Any help is welcome before i hang myself...

Thank you

Emilio

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