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Why is mail so special that it can't 'just work'?
Google obviously has awesome existing infrastructure for it, and it's such a bedrock of cloud systems that pretty much every app on appengine probably uses it in some capacity.
I would also say that having had to resort to sendgrid integration from appengine, it was a frustrating experience, not least taking days to get to the point I could send emails.
This is a pretty disappointing announcement.
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+1 for Joshua’s comment.
Nick, wrt "We always encourage users to make use of the Public Issue Tracker “ the issue is issue 10560 stuck in state “New” for 2.5 years like 100s maybe thousands other issues in the public tracker.
On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Joshua Smith <mrjoshu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Nick,I know you are stuck in the apologist position, and there’s nothing you can do about it, but come on…It is positively absurd that GAE doesn’t include any bulk email capability. If you guys are concerned about spammers abusing the service, just charge a penny per email sent or something.If it’s because google can’t figure out how to provide a reliable email service, maybe call the team over at gmail, I hear they have some experience in this area.You will never convince GAE users that having to use a third-party to send email is anything but a pathetic hack.-Joshua
On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:55 AM, 'Nick (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine <google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hey PK and Kaan,
I hear your concerns. I hope that I can moderate worries by saying the following in regard to each of the points you brought up:
1. Avoid paying for attachment bits through front-end
While the GCS integration to Mail API attachments will be discussed in the next point, there's another GCS solution here which is very useful. You can generate URLs to the attachment objects and merely embed these URLs in the email. This ultimately has the same transfer cost for the user's machine as downloading from a mail server storing the attachment, but is slightly different since you can recall the object at a later date.
2. Feature requests for GCS integration to Mail API
We always encourage users to make use of the Public Issue Tracker to make any feature requests that they think of. We track them and consider them, and this is the best way to ensure that we know about it in a formal manner rather than just posting in a discussion thread. We look forward to all feature requests because it means users are working on the platform and
3. Platform Unity
We definitely recognize that the power of the platform comes from its unity and internal organization. The various services combine to create an ecosystem where development can rapidly integrate many capabilities to produce powerful apps. Because we understand that developers depend on the services for app performance, we offer a minimum 1 year announcement before deprecation, as you can read in the Cloud Platform Terms of Service.
We also do our best during any deprecation period to provide support and migration advice to developers. Community Support is a resource for you developers, so please don't hesitate to ask us any questions or open discussions of architecture, design, etc. We can't prevent the web or our services from changing over time, as all things must, but we can do our best to provide comprehensive support for users during these changes.
For the moment, everything said above and elsewhere about the Mail API and Sendgrid remains good advice. Sendgrid is simply far better suited to bulk messages, while the Mail API can be used effectively for administrative emails such as a password reset system, etc.
As always, let us know your thoughts or if you have any further questions! We'll be happy to help.
Cheers,
Nick
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On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 6:39:17 PM UTC-4, Kaan Soral wrote:Good thing we are locked-in for life to App Engine. Using App Engine for maybe 6 years, It's part of meSeeing this announcement, and practically experiencing the roadblock, devastates meThe beauty of App Engine comes from it's unity, when you take a vital part of that unity out and kill it, it inflicts terror and fear, I fear that more and more services are going to be terminated one day--
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