Staying on github? Google-groups?

[Sebastien Binet]

Hi there,

With the current state of affairs in USA and the string of jaw dropping censorship moves against science (people and infrastructure), or, generally, people, I don't think it's far streched to worry about sciency open source projects in the near future and *plan* or consider a plan to move off US based infrastructure.

AFAIK, we rely on 2 important pieces of US based infra: github and googlegroups.
Planning a move for the latter should probably be less complicated than for the former.

Am I the only one thinking along these lines?
WDYT?

-s

[Roman Werpachowski]

I would wait and see, but keep local backups. 

Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft, which owns Github. The above is of course purely my private opinion :) 

Best regards, 

Roman 

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[Dan Kortschak]

On Tue, 2025-02-25 at 09:13 +0100, 'Sebastien Binet' via gonum-dev
wrote:

> With the current state of affairs in USA and the string of jaw
> dropping censorship moves against science (people and
> infrastructure), or, generally, people, I don't think it's far
> streched to worry about sciency open source projects in the near
> future and *plan* or consider a plan to move off US based
> infrastructure.

I don't think Gonum is likely target, but as Roman says, keep local
backups, but this is true always independent of politics.

[Sebastien Binet]

On Tue Feb 25, 2025 at 09:14 CET, Sebastien Binet wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> With the current state of affairs in USA and the string of jaw dropping
> censorship moves against science (people and infrastructure), or,
> generally, people, I don't think it's far streched to worry about
> sciency open source projects in the near future and *plan* or consider a
> plan to move off US based infrastructure.
>
> AFAIK, we rely on 2 important pieces of US based infra: github and
> googlegroups.
> Planning a move for the latter should probably be less complicated than
> for the former.

as a kind of dog-fooding, I've migrated a bunch of my projects to Codeberg.
They happen to also be dependencies of Gonum and Gonum/plot.
(actually, mostly Gonum/plot.)

I've migrated Gonum/plot to use these dependencies, so next release (v0.16.x) should be ok.
I've noticed Gonum is still using gonum/pl...@v0.14.x.

should I go ahead, create a release-v0.15 branch on Gonum/plot to use these dependencies (and tag as gonum/pl...@v0.15.1) and send a PR on gonum/gonum to use that version of gonum/plot ?
(so next gonum/gonum release, v0.16.x, would use these deps)

FYI, migrating from github to codeberg was relatively straightforward (they have a migration tool that can import code, wiki, issues, PRs, release assets, ... everything)
[The only thing I haven't tested in anger is CI. Codeberg hasn't pockets as deep as Github's.]

-s