After Disbanding the Python Team, Google’s Go Team Faces Turmoil: Technical Lead and 12-Year Project Leader Steps Down

[Amnon]

https://blog.stackademic.com/after-disbanding-the-python-team-googles-go-team-faces-turmoil-12-year-project-leader-steps-down-29c4248ceb85

I could not read this article as it is behind a pay-wall.
But the title looks interesting, (and worrying if correct).

[Axel Wagner]

The facts of the title are correct. See here:

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/01/google-lays-off-staff-from-flutter-dart-python-weeks-before-its-developer-conference/

https://groups.google.com/g/golang-dev/c/0OqBkS2RzWw

However, mentioning these in the same sentences seems to drum up a storm in a water glass to me. They have very little in common.

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[Ian Lance Taylor]

On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 1:10 AM 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts
<golan...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> The facts of the title are correct. See here:
> https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/01/google-lays-off-staff-from-flutter-dart-python-weeks-before-its-developer-conference/
> https://groups.google.com/g/golang-dev/c/0OqBkS2RzWw
> However, mentioning these in the same sentences seems to drum up a storm in a water glass to me. They have very little in common.

I can't read the article either, but I have to agree. The Go team is
not facing turmoil. (To be clear, I'm on the Go team.) We had this
kind of transition before, when Rob Pike handed lead responsibilities
to Russ Cox. Now, 12 years later, we are having another transition,
this time to Austin Clements. These kinds of transitions are normal
for a long-lasting software project.

Ian

> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 at 08:51, Amnon <amn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> https://blog.stackademic.com/after-disbanding-the-python-team-googles-go-team-faces-turmoil-12-year-project-leader-steps-down-29c4248ceb85
>>
>> I could not read this article as it is behind a pay-wall.
>> But the title looks interesting, (and worrying if correct).
>>
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[Amnon]

Thanks, Ian for putting our minds to rest.

[Alan Donovan]

Too often stories in the press describe "Google" as a single entity and all its actions as part of a unified (and usually diabolical) plan. I think many readers would be reassured if they could only see, as we do from the inside, the degree to which Google is an immense and chaotic collection of organizations making independent and often incoherent plans. ;-)

[Russ Cox]

Hi all,

There is no need for this discussion to get heated. 

There is also no turmoil, as we've already established. 

For those who can't see the article due to the Medium paywall, 

there is a copy here: https://archive.ph/BQj5j. 

It reads like ChatGPT summarized the sources at the end.

If nothing else I think we all agree that 18.26.014 should be

an invalid IP address.

To repeat a little bit of what I said on golang-dev,

I am still here and will keep contributing to Go.

I am confident Austin will do a better job as tech lead than I did.

Just wait and see.

Best,

Russ

[Amnon]

That is a high bar!
rsc, thanks for the great leadership and clarity over the past decade+!
And best of luck to Austin...