Question on veracity of a brief

[Martins, Lynette]

Dear all,

In my research, I find myself stumbling along trying to collect any interesting and potentially relevant facts. Earlier today I came across this site which seemed to be quite informative but lacked any sources. I apologize if anyone has posted this before, but would any of you be able to 1) verify the accuracy of this brief or point me to credible sources 2) suggest a repository of all things related to the history of Goa?

 

Here is the location online of the brief Brief_on_India-Portugal_Relations_Dec_31_2018.pdf (mea.gov.in)

 

 

Many thanks,
Lynette

 

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Lynette B. Martins, LLB, PGDip, MBE, LLM

Senior Research Fellow and Associate Research Scholar

Solomon Center for Health Law and Policy, Yale Law School

Yale New Haven Hospital, Adult and Pediatric Ethics Committee Member

 

 

 

[fredericknoronha]

That's the "official version". John Menezes' book, mentioned recently in these columns, gives some insight into the less-noticed and unpublicised diplomacy underway between New Delhi and Lisbon, especially between the 1940s and the 1960s. For obvious reasons, this is a little-studied area, and in each place the formal version has long held sway. FN

[Carvalho]

Dear Lynette,

There is no overarching website which documents works on Goan issues, and it would be impossible to create one as there are members as widely spread as Brazil working on Goan documentation. But if you narrow your scope and specificity, this forum is very good at directing you in the right direction. I found an amazing archive in Lisbon thanks to this group, which I will be investigating later this year. My method is narrow down the time-frame and then focus on sources which will most likely generate relevant information. For my area, for instance, that is consular correspondence.

Bon chance,

Selma

 

 

 

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[Debra Nicholson]

Lynette, don’t know how helpful but “MEA“ stands for Ministry of External Affairs, and “in.gov” in the url stands for the Indian government. So its url address indicates it is from a Ministry of External Affairs 2018 publication by the Indian government — but I think you’d need more to cite it for accuracy’s sake. You could check on that department’s website and see if you come up with anything. Good luck! Debra 

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On Apr 11, 2023, at 7:49 PM, Martins, Lynette <lynette...@yale.edu> wrote:



 

 

 

[Debra Nicholson]

P.S. If you’ve tried my suggestion already, to no avail, or if I’ve insulted your intelligence in any way, I apologize! Best, Debra 

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On Apr 11, 2023, at 8:24 PM, Debra Nicholson <Debra.K....@gmail.com> wrote:

Lynette, don’t know how helpful but “MEA“ stands for Ministry of External Affairs, and “in.gov” in the url stands for the Indian government. So its url address indicates it is from a Ministry of External Affairs 2018 publication by the Indian government — but I think you’d need more to cite it for accuracy’s sake. You could check on that department’s website and see if you come up with anything. Good luck! Debra 

[Tino de Sa]

Since it is a brief prepared by the Ministry of External Affairs, Government of India, it can be relied upon for factual information. Viewpoints may differ. You have to factor in that this is a government issued brief.
Tino

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[V M]

One interesting fact (and possibly, factor) in the decolonization story - which I found mentioned in multiple contexts on a recent stay in Pondicherry - is how France highly advantageously played "good decolonizer" to New Delhi, in full cognizance of the gains to be made by being "more reasonable" than Portugal and Salazar, whose insanely delusional game of chicken resulted only in swift decapitation of the 451-year-old Estado da India to the catastrophic detriment of the Goans. 

As a direct result, the nature of decolonization in these two "enclaves" was totally different, with significant lasting implications. Just one of many interesting wrinkles: France's handover to India was actually only in 1962!

VM

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[Ivan Pereira]

There r 2 resource centres in Lisbonne, Portugal, that have many original documents. 

1. Goa house on the cobbled streets near the River Tagus. 

2. A small library of the Govt of Portugal further down the street dedicated to Goa-Portugal relations. 

Many of the original documents may have been moved to the University of Lisbonne, up the road & near the Edward VII monument, which was the intent. 

Many of Salazar period documentation is also at the U of Goa. 

I have spent time at all 3 locations, almost 3 months in Lisbonne in the libraries there. 

Most documents are in Portuguese, many in English. There has been a translation project in place. 

Relatively crude internet translations are available in Portugal & Europe as documents become fully available online with a university library card, or international library card at cost. I can access from Montreal. 

Browse Portugal websites, & e-mail libraries for info re. resources available online. Visiting in person makes a huge difference, tho Portugal has become expensive. 

My interests have moved away from this topic. 

There r issues re. Nehru’s intervention, the paratroopers inexplicably dropped at midnight around the Cathedral of Dom Jesu, & the claim that Salazar wanted to move SFX’s body to Portugal. 

He gave 3 orders to the last Governor of Goa, including that. 

A WW1 hero, the Portuguese General refused to do all 3. 

He passed away decades later at over 90. 

I met him in Lisbonne at a meeting he attended. 

Kind gentleman. 

When India & Portugal reinstated diplomatic relations, the Goa delegation asked that the General’s WW1 medals be reinstated, & he be given full honours for how he handled the last days. 

That was done as part of the agreements, & new cultural ties. 

I am sure Frederick Noronha is aware of the above, as he is a meticulous researcher from Saligao, which has given Goa a large share of its intellectuals. I have been to his house on the main road. 

Whenever I visit Goa, a trip to the Saligao Church from Calangute (my grandma on my mum’s side is from Gauravaddo) is always on my ‘itinerary’. 

☮️🌻🙏🏽 

- Ivan D. 

Ivan D. Pereira 

On Apr 12, 2023, at 01:36, fredericknoronha <frederic...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's the "official version". John Menezes' book, mentioned recently in these columns, gives some insight into the less-noticed and unpublicised diplomacy underway between New Delhi and Lisbon, especially between the 1940s and the 1960s. For obvious reasons, this is a little-studied area, and in each place the formal version has long held sway. FN

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[Martins, Lynette]

Many thanks to you all. (Ivan, the resources you have listed here will prove to be a good start for me. )

Regards,

Lynette B. Martins 

On Apr 12, 2023, at 12:12 PM, 'Ivan Pereira' via Goa-Research-Net <goa-rese...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 There r 2 resource centres in Lisbonne, Portugal, that have many original documents. 

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[Martins, Lynette]

Many thanks, Debra and no insult taken!

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[Debra Nicholson]

Here’s a “hub” of European archival repositories of potential Goa material—just discovered. Cheers, Debra 

https://www.archivesportaleurope.net/advanced-search/search-in-archives/?term=Goa&using=default&sort=Relevance&context=listTab&page=2

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[Carvalho]

Dear Lynette,

As a starting point, I would recommend you get hold of the writings of Sandra Lobo and Jason Keith Fernandes. They are a great source for an insight into the shaping of twentieth century Goan political ideology. From there you can see what citations they use and investigate them further. I sense that your main source will be newspapers and journals. A good deal of secondary source material exists in this domain. The writings of twentieth century Goan intellectuals.

Warm wishes,

Selma

On Wednesday, 12 April 2023 at 00:49:51 BST, Martins, Lynette <lynette...@yale.edu> wrote: