manilhas de oiro

[Carvalho]

Hello members,

Please tell me what this 19th century piece of jewellery is. It translates as gold shackles, but surely Goan women were not wearing shackles even if it was 1800 Zanzibar :-)

Take care,

selma

[sandra lobo]

Bangles

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[Victor Rangel-ribeiro]

Selma, manilhas de oiro are gold bangles.

Victor

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[Sonia Gomes]

Gold bangles, Selma.

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[Marise D' Lima]

Manilhas de oiro in Portuguese means Gold Bangles .This term is still in use in Goa.

Regards,

Marise D'Lima

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[Nuno Cardoso da Silva]

In the dictionary I found the following:

 

manilha

1. Argola com que se adornam os pulsos e, em certas culturas, os tornozelos, que no passado era usada como moeda de troca em África.

 

But I couldn't find any picture, for illustration.

 

Nuno Cardoso da Silva

 

 

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[Hugo Cardoso]

"Manilha" also translates as 'bracelet', and is rather common with that meaning in texts describing Asian contexts (as recorded in several examples of Dalgado's Glossário Luso-Asiático).

All the best,

Hugo

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[edith melo furtado]

Hi Selma ,

Unless there is a symbolic contextual meaning to this , ‘ manilhas de oiro’ simply mean gold bangles . 

Regards , 

Edith 

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[Carvalho]

Ah ok. I was thinking probably bracelets. Thank you, Sandra.

Warmly,

Selma

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[Cliff Pereira]

Hi Selma.

I am very familiar with the term "manila" through my many years of work with MOA-UBC. 

Although English sources translate them as shackles, they are actually a kind of thick bangle or more precisely "bracelet" that was usually made of copper or bronze and were exported for the slave trade among other trades. They served as a currency throughout the coast of Western Africa from at least the sixteenth century. There were specific exchange rates for these against cloth, iron bars, livestock, cowrie shells and people.

In 19^th Zanzibar it was fashionable for rich Swahili and Arab ladies as well as some South Asians to wear chunkier and more elaborate versions of manilas made of silver. No doubt this jewelry also served as a show of wealth. Literally wearing the chequebook. 

I have seen archive images of Zanzibari ladies wearing the ornate silver (hollow) versions of the manilas. This is what the reference is to.

Cliff

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[Nuno Cardoso da Silva]

Could be this:

 

 

or this:

 

 

In the dictionary I found the following:

 

manilha

1. Argola com que se adornam os pulsos e, em certas culturas, os tornozelos, que no passado era usada como moeda de troca em África.

 

But I couldn't find any picture, for illustration.

 

Nuno Cardoso da Silva

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[carolina costa]

In Portuguese (Portugal) is “pulseiras de ouro”. Used by women as body ornaments.

The word “manilha” is mostly used in mechanics. It is mostly connected to technical issues.

Regards 

Carolina 

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[sandra lobo]

the term manilhas was also currently used in Portuguese to mean shackles, nowadays is less used in that sense

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[Carvalho]

Thank you everyone. Nuno, this was the slight doubt I had, that it could be something like this because it was part of a Goan woman's collection in Zanzibar in the 1800s. But on the whole, I don't think they meant shackles, I think the correct interpretation would be bangles.

Warm wishes everyone,

Selma

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[Carvalho]

Thank you Cliff and Hugo, yes, my worry has been that it might be this sort of armlet. Without further descriptors, I am really torn now how best to interpret it. I will footnote the various possibilities in the text.

Warmly,

selma

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