Mapping landowning families

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Rochelle Fernandes

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Apr 10, 2024, 4:11:47 AM4/10/24
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Good day 

Does anyone have any information on landowning families from Colonial Goa? 

I'm looking to conduct a survey where I map the "big families" (whoever they may be!) and their estates. 

Please let me know. Any information is highly appreciated. 

Thank you in advance! 

Regards 
Rochelle Fernandes 
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BITS Pilani KK Birla Goa Campus 

Rochelle Fernandes

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Apr 10, 2024, 4:24:16 AM4/10/24
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Catholic Landowning families*

Caetano Mascarenhas

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Apr 10, 2024, 5:08:45 AM4/10/24
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Hi. What is the scope of this study? What are the contours of this proposed survey? 

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Frederick Noronha

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Apr 10, 2024, 5:28:51 AM4/10/24
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Landowning patterns seem to change in different parts of the state, especially those in which comunidades ceased to exist, or are virtually extinct. The connection between politics and landholding in post-1961 Goan politics also doesn't seem to have been adequately studied. Also, I often wonder whether some properties of extinguished religious Orders ended up in private hands in parts of Goa? Just random thoughts to unanswered questions in my mind.... FN

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Rochelle Fernandes

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Apr 10, 2024, 9:34:21 AM4/10/24
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I'm looking at late 1800s and/or early 1900s. I just want to get an idea of the concentration of such families. I then want to map the same. 

I'm writing a social history of Goa for my thesis and this mapping would help me make sense of the following chapters that focus on labour. 

Bedi, Heather

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Apr 10, 2024, 10:23:34 AM4/10/24
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Dear Rochelle and Frederick,

It is a great idea to map the land. There is a free online mapping resource you can use:

https://www.qgis.org/en/site/

Best,

Heather

 

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Rochelle Fernandes

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Apr 10, 2024, 10:45:11 AM4/10/24
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Thank you so much, Heather. 

I'll definitely try it out. 

Helga do Rosario Gomes

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Apr 10, 2024, 11:01:32 AM4/10/24
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Hi Rochelle,
There is also this newer resource by the Indian govt. If you stick in the Form 1 and 14 number then you get the map of the property as a shape file/image etc. I really prefer this one over the earlier one
Are you interested in the land holdings of wealthy families of then? Unless that info is cited anonymously you would find it hard to get information. Land is highly contentious in Goa now because of the astronomical prices and siblings, uncles,aunts and cousins are fighting long battles in court. Many of these battles involve daughters who while eligible don't are often ousted from their share and the courts run at the pace of turtles.
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Rochelle Fernandes

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Apr 10, 2024, 11:12:45 AM4/10/24
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Hi Helga 

Thank you so much for sharing resources. I'm only interested in the landholding families as this will help me make sense of labour relations. 

Thank you for your insights. 

Regards 
Rochelle 

William Robert Da Silva

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Apr 11, 2024, 7:02:46 AM4/11/24
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I found it difficult to begin with land-owning families and then go
over to the labour in the field from 1988-1997. There have been many
political interventions in land-owning in Goa as far as I have worked
on it. I continued this in Kanara in researching the migrant
possession of land and their labour. Even that was difficult because
the British and Indian governments changed land relations. There is a
lot to research here.
Willam Robert Da Silva
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Rochelle Fernandes

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Apr 11, 2024, 7:17:29 AM4/11/24
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Thank you for your insights. I'll keep this in mind. 

Carvalho

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Apr 12, 2024, 4:33:16 AM4/12/24
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Dear Rochelle,

If I may suggest to you to limit your study to one village, which would allow for better patterns to emerge. A village like Nuvem (my village) for instance is of immense interest because of the myriad of hierarchies, inclusions and exclusions to land ownership. Here you will find the full breadth of migratory settlements. On the one hand the Gaudda populations who are the landless but now settled on Church property. For generations they lived on tracts of land owned by absentee bhatkars, mostly living in Portugal. The land after independence was sold off. On these sale deeds you will find mention of 'curumbin' which refers to the indigenous populations. Some of the land was claimed by mundkars after the mundkari laws came into effect. Some of it was bought by men like my father who prospered in the Gulf. The village further down the road is populated by former bakers, the petty-bourgeoise class who claim to be chardos. Their sons have made their money working on board ships. The concept of the Guankari is not much prevalent in Nuvem, but it is prevalent in say Velsao, just 30 minutes down the road. This in itself needs investigation. 

Good luck, much to investigate.
Selma

Rochelle Fernandes

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Apr 12, 2024, 5:33:45 AM4/12/24
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Thank you so much for your suggestions, Selma. All duly noted. 

Regards 
Rochelle 

Andrew Pereira

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Apr 12, 2024, 8:47:37 AM4/12/24
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Nuvem, according to the late Valmiki Faleiro, is a part of the Margao comunidade village. It was a place of summer retreat for the land owning families of Margao.

Frederick Noronha

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Maker of Modern Goa: The Untold Story of Pratapsingh Rane

Updated - April 12, 2024 at 01:59 PM.

An absorbing chronicle for anyone interested in the many layers of Goan history and politics

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When the man’s biographer is his wife, one can be certain the story would be laudatory. And that is what Vijayadevi Rane’s recent book - Maker of Modern Goa – the untold story of Pratapsingh Rane, clearly is. But happily, it goes well beyond, making the book an absorbing chronicle for anyone interested in the many layers of Goan history and politics.

The elegantly draped hardbound book is mostly about Rane, the man who never lost an election in 50 years, and remained Goa’s Chief Minister for over five cycles. But sprinkled with elements from Portuguese, Goan Catholic and Hindu ethnicity, the narrative becomes complex but thereby more interesting.

 Starting with Goa’s first CM –Dayanand Bandodkar, who inducted Pratap Singh into politics, there are countless stories about the Rane clan and their close association with the erstwhile Scindia royal family of Gwalior. Pratap Singh’s almost soldierly schooling, his professional degree in business management acquired in the United States, his engagement by a corporate set up, (Telco) and how he was abruptly thrown into the hurly burly of Goa’s political affairs to become the Chief Minister many times over, has been told simply but engagingly.

The narrative is a valuable backdrop which both residents and visitors to Goa will enjoy. There is much to learn about the subjugation and forced conversions inflicted by the Portuguese rulers, the fierce combats that ensued, the refusal of some, like Rane’s ancestors, to accept suppression, the rise of the bhatkar class (landowners) and the role of Bandodkar, the man whose name springs into the book nearly 40 times. The political tumult against the ruling elites – the Goud Saraswat Brahmins and the Portuguese-Catholics - and the liberation of Goa in less than 24 hours enhance one’s understanding of Goa as it was then. The part played by the erstwhile Prime Ministers of India and the visits of several celebrities provide kaleidoscopic images of a slew of important events which go well beyond the title of the book.

Along the way, one learns that Rane was an equestrian medal winner and a horse racing jockey several times over, plus an accomplished boxer - something he never divulged to the stream of civil servants, each of who knew Rane well. Despite being born to privilege and destined to lead a polished if not plush life as a top corporate executive, overnight Rane found himself having to return to tend to his father’s estate in agrarian North Goa- where even today the family continues to live in the same family home.

Several civil servants who worked closely with Rane in the 1980s (including myself) have recounted how much development and good governance mattered to Rane– a refrain which resonates throughout the book. Those recollections exhibit how a politician who is direct in his dealings, liberal in his approach, and thoughtful and caring in action can still win elections and retain power. Albeit in India’s most educated, most affluent, and well-liked state - an unmatched gem in a gigantic country.

During my Goa years, I had many opportunities to watch the author, Vijayadevi, at close quarters. Her charm and scintillating laughter remain vivid memories even today, but her book presents a narrative which she seldom alluded to when she was the CM’s wife. The Rane couple, however, emerge exactly as they were then - urbane, sophisticated, upper-class - even royal - but with core attributes of modesty, courtesy, and kind-heartedness. Rane’s style of administration – spending time understanding things, establishing communication channels with those likely to be affected, his organisational abilities, and the complete absence of arrogance have been captured with illustrative stories which ring true.

While the narratives of family history provide a detailed account of who married who amongst the erstwhile royal families of Gwalior in MP and Sandur in Karnataka, it is the machinations of Goan politicians and their self-serving brand of politics which often take centre-stage.Those events are important to understand Goan politics but minus knowledge of the dramatis personae involved, the stories of how Pratap Singh was overthrown by his political rivals, how he returned to power,only to lose or win it back, might faze a casual reader. Fortunately, the book has much more to offer than that muddied history.

More appealing are the recollections of legendary Goans - vocal maestros like Kesarbai Kerkar, Kishori Amonkar, Lata Mangeshkar, the tradition of temple performers and all-night concerts -- a world which stands apart from the feisty notions many visitors carry of Goa. The contributions of Master painters like Francis Newton and V S Gaitonde find their place in the narrative, as does that of the eminent Goan architect Charles Correa who designed that haven of art and culture – the Kala Academy. Rane remained the chairman of Kala Academy for nearly three-decades and fiercely guarded it from politics. He was witness to Gyani Zail Singh, the then President of India stomping out of Goa’s 25th anniversary of liberation celebrations because Lata Mangeshkar declined to sing at Mahamahim Rashtrapatiji’s request.

In one sentence, Vijayadevi was the talisman that buoyed up Pratap Singh’s political and personal life. And made this tale worth telling- and reading.

(Shailaja Chandra was a career civil servant for almost 40 years having held assignments in the Central Government in the Ministries of Defence, Power and Health. At the state level, Ms. Chandra was posted in Manipur, Goa and the Union Territories of Delhi and the Andaman & Nicobar Islands).

Joao Paulo Cota

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Apr 13, 2024, 6:21:34 AM4/13/24
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Possibly one of the most useless politicians in modern Goa. Apart from KTC, he did nothing significant for Goa in his record 7 tenures as CM.
Then as a leader of the opposition, he just warmed up his chair and did not do anything yet again to challenge the ruling party.
Corruption was inevitable with unopposed leaders. 
Who knows how much these capitation fee colleges must have paid under the table to get the green signal to do their business in Goa. I was lathi charged as a student protesting against this monstrosity. We won, so it was damn worth it.
His ancestors very brave and tough, sadly, this one was the black sheep of the family.
Might buy a book to use a toilet paper.

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Roland Francis

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Apr 13, 2024, 3:47:04 PM4/13/24
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Totally agree with your opinion.

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Joao Paulo Cota

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Apr 14, 2024, 12:18:13 PM4/14/24
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One of the most disgraceful things that Pratapsingh Rane did was the closure of the Goa Symphony Orchestra.
It was started by Maestro Figueiredo, and over the years it morphed into a State orchestra, under Fr Lourdino Barreto.
We had major problems in attendance as members used to come from Salcette and they were spending more in transport than the stipend peanuts the Kala Academy was paying for transport. We were paid I think Rs 10/- per session (!) and members from far used to spend over Rs30-40 just to attend reharsals. So two representative players of the orchestra (one was myself as 1st flute) met Rane at his residence, as he was the head of the Kala Academy, and explained to him about the difficulties. He had promised to resolve the problems. 
What this this guy do? He proposed to shut down the Goa Symphony Orchestra because it was too expensive to run! 
And not only that, the Indian Classical Orchestra got a salary raise of Rs15/- or so to Rs40/- and they did not have to do anything to negotiate it, we did it! And they were safe from being shut down!
Rane is anti-Western music but he is an hypocryte who had a piano at home and has Mozart, Beethoven and other composer's works well displayed at his house.
After all, a good impression is good for a politician. 
I think it is important for people to know the truth about this man, he pretends he is a descendant of the great Ranes, which he is, but he is not cut off the same fabric. 


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Eugene Correia

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Apr 15, 2024, 4:17:35 AM4/15/24
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Read the book, a wife's tribute. Hence, it lacks critical appraisal. For his long run, Rane did much work though there were also many setbacks. 
Bhausaheb and his daughter laid the foundation. Rane too it forward to give Goa a stature that it now enjoys. 
No great political analysis and the ghost-writer was following a set-pattern. So he"s to bee established as "Maker", whether became "modern" or became "rising statte" is open to question.

Eugene Corrreia


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