Violet Dias Lannoy

[Eugene Correia]

Remember Peter Nazareth writing that violet's novella is unpublished. He made a point that if Goans had supported her, she would not be " working herself to death."

Peter made a point that "Goan support would have been enough to get her work published

and to keep her alive."

As for me, I didn't know about her till I read Pears from the willow tree. Frankly, I feel a tinge of guilt, but the Goan diaspora in Africa during her time there, should take a major share of the blame.

Thanks to Peter for getting her into Goan literary limelight. The novel, and the novella needs to be published. Perhaps.Fred or Leonard can take up the challenge.

Even her short stories, published and unpublished, must be published for this generation of readers and those like me who haven't read them.

Unfortunately, her husband Richard passed away in Canada. I think Bevinda Colaco, who ran TargetGoa newsite, is her sister, and could be approached for permission. Peter would know better. 

Eugene  Correia

[Frederick Noronha]

1. Richard Lannoy passed away in the UK, not Canada, afaik.

2. You're getting the wrong Bevinda.

3. If "those like you who haven't read them" had amounted to a thousand persons/copies, I'm sure the publishing would happen by itself. At present, the numbers for most Goa books still don't seem to add up! Others may disagree. FN

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[Bob Newman]

Violet's sister was Bemvinda Dias, who was married to Bomfilho d'Cruz of Velim and the Education Dept., but she died back in 2011.

 

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[Selma Cardoso]

Eugene makes suggestions about this or that book being published. Yet when it is published, he wants it delivered to his second-cousin who lives by the Goa airport who will give it to the air-steward to fly to the Gulf where it will be given to an aunty heading to Canada.

What happens to books when they are published? Even if one is willing to disregard the time and energy that goes into editing and formatting books and try to recover basic cost of production, there are no Goans willing to buy at a rate that is sustainable. 

Where are all the Goans of the diaspora who have any number of ideas for Goa and how things can improve. Why don't they back their advice by putting some money where their mouth is. Other diaspora communities have huge associations that assist the home country with cultural and social endeavours. Where are our Goans? Canadian Goans and UK Goans and Gulf Goans. Why don't they organise books from Goa to be distributed abroad. Try to sell them a book and they ask you what price the sausages at the next stall are selling for (true story that one, actually happened to me.)

All best,

selma

[Raymond Dias]

Bomfilio may be around... and could be I  Velim. His son, Angelo is around; shuttling between Zambia, Goa and Australia. He may have Bemvinda's papers with him.

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[Raymond Dias]

You said it Selma.

I published a book last year. How many Goans have bought it? Only one that I know off...

I've had to ask Rabi Martins to see if he could be of help. Nothing has changed. Even my sisters refuse to buy my book. These are our 'Catholic’ Goans. This, inspite of an academic in the US putting it on the top of his 'must read' books.

Goans are only here for perepherial pleasures.

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[Eugene Correia]

Fred, thanks for the correction, I thought I read Lanoy died in Canada.

I think he once said his wife's sister lives in Betim. Was her name Bevinda? Perhaps not the one I referred to.

Anyway, what's the solution in getting her unpublished novella in the market? And what about Pears from the willow tree to add to the market in Goa, and India at large?

I request if Peter ca get her short stories published in a mag like Goa Today.  Goans need to hear about her and relish her writing.

Eugene

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[Leroy Veloso]

Well said Selma!  With a few exceptions, what you said about Goans rings true..

Best wishes, 

leroy

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[Eugene Correia]

Before dashing off the post, I didn't read Selma's and Edgar 's posts. I did ask a couple of books dispatched to my sister who lives next to Goa's airport. I even asked Leonard to mail the Brave World there besides another one, and the reason for it is that my sister from Canada is stuck in Goa and will come when flights restart.

i also asked why the Brave World was priced so much. If Selma fixes the price so high I have second thoughts of buying it. I can make do without reading it. 

Frankly, if I need a book post-haste I ask them to be posted. I would rather have a couple of books posted than a single one. I am in no tearing hurry to read. I always have few books pending to read. 

I bought some books when I was in Goa early this year. I do believe that the market for Goa'-related books  or by Goan authors is small. What"s the solution?

Making the books affordable to the Goan readership  in Goa may be a way out, depending if the publisher can get sponsors. I know it's a struggle and publishers need support and understanding.

Eugene 

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[Selma Cardoso]

LOL, Raymond, let me tell you about relatives. They'll come to your house and when they spot a spare copy, even if it's your mother's only copy, they'll take that away saying they'll return it when they've finished reading it. But they won't support the writer by buying a copy.

In Victorian England, often publishers would only publish a book if friends and family would guarantee that they'd buy 300 copies. That's how they sustained publishing in those years.

Raymond, what is the name of your book. I will buy it if it's easily available for purchase and I'll review it for the Joao Roque Literary Journal. I'm sorry I've not been keeping abreast of new releases, etc, my apologies.

All best wishes,

selma

[Eugene Correia]

Before dashing off the post, I didn't read Selma's and Edgar 's posts. I did ask a couple of books dispatched to my sister who lives next to Goa's airport. I even ask Leonard to mail the Brave World there besides another one, and the reason for it is that my sister from Canada is stuck in Goa. 

i also asked why the Brave World was priced so much. If Selma fixes the price so high I have second thoughts of buying it. I can make do without reading it. 

Frankly, if I need a book post-haste I ask them to be posted. I would rather have a couple of books posted than a single one. I am in no tearing hurry to read. I always have few books pending to read. 

I bought some books when I was in Goa early this year. I do believe that the market for Goa'related books  or by Goan authors is small. What"s the solution?

Making the books affordable to the Goan readership  in Goa may be a way out, depending if the publisher can get sponsors. I know it's a struggle and publishers need support and understanding.

Eugene 

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[Selma Cardoso]

Dear Eugene,

Yes, the Brave New World is exorbitantly highly priced. Do you know why? Because I know from long experience that low prices don't expand the Goan market. The Goan market for books is not elastic and responsive to price. Those who read books will buy books. As a result the print-run is small to avoid holding stocks. When the print-run is small, it is impossible to make the books affordable. Another reason why Goa suffers from small print runs is because there are no distribution networks which stretch beyond Goa. 

My objective in publishing the Brave New World series is only to give Goan writers a platform and to have it archived in repositories. Not to make a profit. The cost of this venture is borne entirely by me this year. In 2018, we were grateful to get a publisher.

I'm really grateful this year that the Fundacao Oriete acquired the series (both book 1 and 2) which means they will be its repository and ensure at least some stock is a guaranteed buy. We need more institutions like the Fundacao that will assist us in our goals. Pretty ironic that we're depending on the Portuguese 60 years after their departure.

Imagine if the Goan Association worldwide were to extend a helping hand. Imagine the sort of things we could do, the sort of projects we could carry out. Oh but I'm sure, they're busying booking the band for the next dance or checking that the choriz and beer stalls are well stocked for the next Goa Day. Viva! Cheers!

All best wishes,

selma

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[augusto pinto]

Dear GBC-ers

Read in-line 

On Sat, 11 Jul, 2020, 1:52 AM 'Selma Cardoso' via The Goa Book Club, <goa-bo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Eugene makes suggestions about this or that book being published. Yet when it is published, he wants it delivered to his second-cousin who lives by the Goa airport who will give it to the air-steward to fly to the Gulf where it will be given to an aunty heading to Canada.

I think Selma's savage attack on Eugene is very unfair.

True, he (like me) tries to acquire books at the most economical rate. After all we made our money the hard way and don't like to see it squandered. 

But he genuinely is interested in books and when he gets them he most often, unlike many others, gives feedback about those books, often telling interesting anecdotes about the people who wrote the books. 

Selma's, like Fred's animosity towards Eugene stems from earlier sour encounters. 

What happens to books when they are published? Even if one is willing to disregard the time and energy that goes into editing and formatting books and try to recover basic cost of production, there are no Goans willing to buy at a rate that is sustainable. 

There are Goans who buy books (like Eugene and me) but generally speaking we all know that Goa related books aren't going to be sold enough to make a J. K. Rowlings type of fortune for any writer except for an Amitav Ghosh, who I think ought to write one. 

However if one's intention is to be heard as opposed to making a fortune then it's worth pursuing the line, and while it'll be difficult to make a living except for the likes of Fred who knows how to milk a few paisa from the business, it will not necessarily lead one into penury for those with an alternative livelihood. 

Where are all the Goans of the diaspora who have any number of ideas for Goa and how things can improve. Why don't they back their advice by putting some money where their mouth is. Other diaspora communities have huge associations that assist the home country with cultural and social endeavours. Where are our Goans? Canadian Goans and UK Goans and Gulf Goans. Why don't they organise books from Goa to be distributed abroad. Try to sell them a book and they ask you what price the sausages at the next stall are selling for (true story that one, actually happened to me.)

I actually do empathise with Selma's rant but let's face it, the overseas 'Goan' is usually a 'Goan' merely by heritage, by having a parent, and in the case of the Africanders, a grandparent and sometimes great-grandparents born in Goa. 

They are busy with their lives in the country they migrated to and only the exceptional has the time and inclination to dabble with 'Goan culture' . 

They are all citizens of the countries they inhabit, all English and American and Canadian and Australian and they have little interest in Goa except when a sausage happens to pop up in which case perhaps ancient memories tickle at their tummies. 

Many have  married inter-racially. In another generation their children won't even consciously think about their Goa connection. 

I don't think one can realistically expect anything from them. 

Best, 

Augusto 

All best,

selma

On Friday, 10 July 2020, 20:56:16 BST, Eugene Correia <eugene....@gmail.com> wrote:

Remember Peter Nazareth writing that violet's novella is unpublished. He made a point that if Goans had supported her, she would not be " working herself to death."

Peter made a point that "Goan support would have been enough to get her work published

and to keep her alive."

As for me, I didn't know about her till I read Pears from the willow tree. Frankly, I feel a tinge of guilt, but the Goan diaspora in Africa during her time there, should take a major share of the blame.

Thanks to Peter for getting her into Goan literary limelight. The novel, and the novella needs to be published. Perhaps.Fred or Leonard can take up the challenge.

Even her short stories, published and unpublished, must be published for this generation of readers and those like me who haven't read them.

Unfortunately, her husband Richard passed away in Canada. I think Bevinda Colaco, who ran TargetGoa newsite, is her sister, and could be approached for permission. Peter would know better. 

Eugene  Correia

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[Mervyn Maciel]

You've hit the nail on head, Selma.

I had a similar experience when my very

first book was published.

Sausages and Pickles are top priority

at any Goan Fayre!

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[Joseph]

May I add  a few more things:

1) The main problem is   a  lot of   people  of Goan Origin who have made Europe  and America  their home  and are citizens of countries there  want books at the same price being  sold in Goa or close to that  although they are earning  salaries or have earned as per US or European standards   and certainly not  at Goan levels.  Arguments that expenses and living standards are higher is valid but same goes for books  Is it not?

2) International  publishers  have    a different  Indian Edition  printed in India   at a fraction of this  price to be sold in India only  for this reason

3) Publishers  have to make a study   where  they sell  more books . In India?   or  overseas  ?    All said and done your next  door neighbour in Goa may be a potential  customer, but he is ignored (In most cases)   and you  prefer  to market  to the  overseas market  or to  the PIO  who has just come  to Goa  on a holiday

4)  Make it easier  for your potential  buyer  to buy a book. In case  the requirement is  an international  Credit card -  you will  lose  almost the whole   local market.

5) In case you ask the buyer to collect the book  from your cousins house who stays 2 km of a small bridge which is 3 km of the bus stop  and after that in a small internal road  there  are no customers -  Most people have no time to go through hoops just  as  Selma mentioned the sellers  too  are limited  when the overseas buyers want  them to take  an excruciating route. 

6)  And  before  any one comments   whether  I am an actual  buyer  or not yes I buy books on  Goa  many times but certainly not when I have to also ride   a  camel to get one.

Best regards,

Joseph

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[Raymond Dias]

How true Selma... 

My book is a trilogy on 'evolution' and titled 'The Teardrop Theory'. Book I is out but don't go looking for it at Weatherstons, as they price it at £125/-. It is available on Amazon for £33/-. On Amazon India, the hardcopy is available for Rs. 1,036/-.

I know you are not a science person, so if you are willing to do a review of it, I will be thrilled and obliged and can send you a PDF of the book. I do that with my other author friends.

Do let me know...

Thank you Selma.

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[augusto pinto]

Read my comment on Selma's post:

On Sat, 11 Jul, 2020, 3:42 PM 'Selma Cardoso' via The Goa Book Club, <goa-bo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear Eugene,

... I know from long experience that low prices don't expand the Goan market. The Goan market for books is not elastic and responsive to price. Those who read books will buy books.

As a result the print-run is small to avoid holding stocks. When the print-run is small, it is impossible to make the books affordable.

Another reason why Goa suffers from small print runs is because there are no distribution networks which stretch beyond Goa. 

My objective in publishing the Brave New World series is only to give Goan writers a platform and to have it archived in repositories.

👌

Not to make a profit. The cost of this venture is borne entirely by me this year. In 2018, we were grateful to get a publisher.

I'm really grateful this year that the Fundacao Oriete acquired the series (both book 1 and 2) which means they will be its repository and ensure at least some stock is a guaranteed buy. We need more institutions like the Fundacao that will assist us in our goals. Pretty ironic that we're depending on the Portuguese 60 years after their departure. 

🤔

Imagine if the Goan Association worldwide were to extend a helping hand.

I don't think that's possible. 

As I pointed out we Goans from Goa, or first generation Goans like me or Eugene or Selma who were brought up outside Goa in Africa or Bombay or the Gulf, have vastly different ideas about what Goan-ness means as opposed to their second or third level generation descendants. 

Imagine the sort of things we could do, the sort of projects we could carry out. Oh but I'm sure, they're busying booking the band for the next dance or checking that the choriz and beer stalls are well stocked for the next Goa Day. Viva! Cheers!

Dream, dream, dream, 

Dream, dream, 

If I loved you... 

Selma let me tell you that I think that you live in a dream world.

What you seem to say is that the offspring of first aind second generation should love Goa. 

Why? 

Let's deal with the last of the lot like Gilbert Lawrence and Roland Francis and so on and so forth who still have some memories of Goa and indeed India. 

Augusto 

Best, 

Augusto 

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[Selma Cardoso]

Dear Raymond,

I checked out the book and it sounds absolutely fascinating but you're right, I'm not the right person to review this book as it would require a more technical bent of mind. If anyone of this forum would like to take a stab at reviewing Raymond's book, I'd be most glad to publish the review on the Joao Roque Literary Review.

Raymond, once again I congratulate you on this magnificent undertaking. I think it's rare for a Goan to add to the canon of science writing.

All best wishes,

selma

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[Nazareth, Peter]

Folks,

About the writing of Violet Dias Lannoy:

“Roses With the Grass”, story published in the anthology I edited with the assistance of Joseph Henry in an anthology of Modern Goan Literature by Michigan State, later included in an anthology by Goa 1556.

“The Bewitched”, a short story set in Kenya, published in CALLALLOO, a journal of writing by African American and Caribbean writers.  I could not find my volume so I don’t remember the name right now.

A story published in one of two volumes on African Women’s writing edited by the late Professor Charlotte Bruner, published by Heinemann.

Unpublished work by Violet Dias Lannoy, which I have in a binder on a shelf in my basement:

The Last Lesson (27 pages)

The Story of Jesus, story (31 pages), unpublished

The Murmur in the Depth of the River, novella (104 pages), unpublished

I think there is one unfinished story.

Incidentally, Richard Lannoy was Violet’s second husband (I think her first husband died in Bombay).

When my wife and I visited with and stayed with Richard Lannoy in Bath, he showed us the paintings he was completing a painting of Jim Morrison as Trickster.

Years later, he painted the cover of my book “In the Trickster Tradition: The Novels of Andrew Salkey, Francis Ebejer and Ishmael Reed”.

I sent him a photo of Elvis Presley in Las Vegas to show him the Trickster at work and he drew from it.

Peter

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[Braz Menezes]

Dear Selma, your are absolutely correct.

Some years ago 3 Toronto authors: Ben Antao, Cheryl Antao and I took shared a stall at one of these Social around the feast of St Francis Xavier. We priced all our books downwards to match the cheapest price of competing chorizo.

The Goa sausages out sold books about 650:1

But as the organizing committee announced in the Xmas Bulletin “ A good time was had by all”

Have you been in touch withAlbert Peres? He is making a tremendous effort to get something going, but times are generally tough all round.

Good luck,

Braz

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[alan machado]

Ha ha ha Selma, how very true! You should know it is even worse in our Mangalorean community. soro ani dukrmaas have far more value than a book over which someone has spent many many hours over, researching, writing, rewriting, financing from savings, proofreading and even associating in the publishing, printing and marketing. You can judge a society when it places a higher premium on something that passes through the gut and kidney overnight than a work that will be remembered and sought after long after its creator has turned to dust. Is it any wonder that both our communities are losing our identities so rapidly? 

I have been through what you have experienced. Just keep going on-the rewards lie elsewhere. 

Alan

   

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[Raymond Dias]

Dear Selma,

Absolutely honoured by your words.

When in Goa next, drop by for a chat, over the old 'sit-codi'.

Cheers!

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[augusto pinto]

On Sun, 12 Jul, 2020, 2:00 AM 'Selma Cardoso' via The Goa Book Club, <goa-bo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear Raymond. 

... 

Raymond, once again I congratulate you on this magnificent undertaking. I think it's rare for a Goan to add to the canon of science writing.

Dear Selma 

You might be surprised to hear that there are at least 3 Moidekars who have published in different fields of science: the mathematician John Lawrence Nazareth (who is  the brother of Jeanne Hromnik from this forum) - in the field of computing (he also wrote A Passage to Kenya among other literary books), John H. R. Nazareth, (brother of Peter also from this forum) who is a statistician and Sylvestre Nazare who is a nuclear scientist based in Germany I think. 

Themistocles D'Silva of Arrossim who is also on G. B. C. is another scientist. See https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0071LWF0E/ref=dbs_a_w_dp_b0071lwf0e

Augusto 

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[Selma Cardoso]

Dear Augusto, you are not entirely wrong. Even I grow distanced from Goa with every passing day but dont forget a great many who run these organisations have just landed on foreign shores and it's a pity when memories are so short.

Warmly, 

Selma

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[Jeanne Hromnik]

Augusto, my brother has written ANOTHER book -- essays on algorithmic science. He sent me a link to one of them and I was thinking of asking him not to send me any more but don't want to hurt his feelings.

Instead I shall send him to Selma.

Jeanne 

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[Selma Cardoso]

Dear Alan,

I know exactly what you mean. My third book 52 rare photos and images, their history in East Africa carefully investigated and made visible. Book receives fantastic reviews. What could possibly go wrong? Goans who didn't want to pay a price of £10. I must say here though, there are so many Goans who buy books in bulk from me sometimes up to 15-20 books, and have supported me tremendously these past years, but we need to build up markets by encouraging people to read. As my husband says, don't think of this venture as making a loss but doing something worthwhile, but how long can such ventures thrive on Bank of Husband and Dad?

Take care,

selma

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[Selma Cardoso]

Braz, I hear ya. About 5 years ago, dear friends Meryvn Maciel, Tony Fernandes and I at the St. Xavier's dance somewhere in east London, selling books. A situation which can only be described as record no sales. Finally, we ate the xacuti-pulao and went home. If you can't beat them, join them :-)

So many true life stories. 

Take care,

selma

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[Selma Cardoso]

Dear Jeanne,

I'm sure Larry will be sending it to me soon. Being mathematically challenged no doubt I will be lost in it. But he writes lovely poetry too. Maybe if he sets it to poetry :-)

All best wishes,

Selma

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[V M]

I'm interested in Passage to Kenya, is it a memoir?

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[Eugene Correia]

Resending it, as typos are generated when typing on my tablet with one finger. Please excuse me, folks. This keyboard with SwiftKey program does auto-correction.

Moderator, please delete the earlier one.

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Forgive Selma, she's been in this game for few years. She can dream on, it costs nothing. Let her build castles in the air.

Whatever drove her to start the journal, I assume its going well and that has given her a status symbol. It has perched her on a high stool and she feels it has given her devine right to lecture. Somehow she is under the false belief that I envy her success. 

When she asked for recommendations on books for the documentary on Goa 's liberation, I opined that someone with a through knowledge should have approached. It's a complex subject. An advisory committee with scholars holding different viewpoints would be advisable. It's my opinion and I have every right to express it. But Selma thinks otherwise.

Augusto's point on Goanness is worth thinking about and has brought to mind his late gaunbhau, Dr. TR D'Souza's  piece, Goenkarponn makes me cry. Furthermore, it has also brought to mind Peter Nazareth's piece, The End of Exile, Or, Why Should Goans Read Goan Literature? 

Further reading of Eusebio Rodrigues' Stray Thoughts on Goan Exile would help how confusing the subject is. His analysis of what he saw himself as a Goan and an exile are worthy of each one of us looking within oneself. He questions on “Who and what is a Goan?” and goes on to deconstruct it. A deep dive into the consciousness of being Goan, and in exile. 

As Augusto ponders and puts himself, me and Selma as examples of Goans who have been moulded by their stay in foreign locales.

Augusto has expressed the dilemma of Goanness among the new generation of Goans, particularly in the diaspora. Braz mentions the disappointment in Goans not buying books, even though discounted in price.. 

I second him in stressing this problem, and feel sorry for the efforts Albert Peres puts in having a stall at the Viva tGoa festival, held annually in Toronto but cancelled this year.

An idea to have a literature round-table at the GOA 50th anniversary celebrations, which is this year but postponed to next year, has been at the back of my mind. However, I have quit its membership as I feel like an outsider in the current environment.

However, Braz or anyone here who is GOA member can sound influential members such as Peter's brother, John, who played a role in the celebrations of 30 years of the Int'l Goan Convention.

Eugene

On Sat., Jul. 11, 2020, 8:02 p.m. Eugene Correia, <eugene....@gmail.com> wrote:

Forgive Selma, she's in this game for fee years. She can dream on, it costs nothing. Let her build castles in the air.

Whatever drove her to start the journal, I assume its going well and that has given her 

a status symbol. It has perched her on a high stool and she feels her divwhenine right to lecture. Somehow she is under the false belief that I envy her success. 

When she asked for recommendations on books for the documentary on Goa 's liberation, I opined that someone with a through knowledge should have approached. It's a complex subject. An advisory committee with scholars holding  differtent viewpoints would be advisable. It's my opinion and I have every right to express it. But Selma thinks otherwise.

Augusto's point on Goanness is worth thinking about and has brought to mind his late gaunchov, Dr. TR D'Souza's  piece, Goenkarponn makes me cry. Furthermore, it has also brought to mind peter Nazareth's piece, The End of Exile, Or, Why Should Goans Read Goan Literature? 

Further reading of Eusobio Rodrigues' Stray Thoughts on Goan Exile. He is analysis of what he saw himself as a Goan and an exile. He questions on who and what is a Goa? and goes on to deconstruct it. A deep dive into the consciousness of being Goa, and in exile. As Augusto ponders and puts himself, me and Selma as examples of Goans who have been moulded by their stay in foreign locales.

Augusto has expressed the dilemma of Goanness among the new generation of Goans, particularly in the diaspora. Braz mentions the disappointment in Goans not buying books, even though discounted. 

I second him in stressing this problem, and feel sorry for the efforts Albert Peres puts in having a stall at the Viva the  Goa festival, held annually in Toronto but cancelled this year.

An idea to have a literature round-table at the GOA 50th anniversary celebrations, which is this year but postponed to next year, has been at the back of my mind. However, I have quit its membership as I feel like an outsider in the current environment.

However, Braz or anyone here who is GOA member can sound influential members such as Peter's brother, John Naxareth, who played a big role in the celebration of 30 years of the Int'l Goan Convention.

Eugene Correia

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[Selma Cardoso]

Dear VM,

The entire memoir has been uploaded on JRLJ which has been its repository. You can read it here.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5862505e6a496340ce46a33a/t/5ad821ab352f53351103a9e9/1524113841113/Vignettes-E-Book-April18+Larry+Nazareth+Final+pdf.pdf

warmly,

selma

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[Jeanne Hromnik]

It's a collage and he and I have differed on just what that should be. But I think you'll find it interesting and it should be easily available online. Selma has reviewed it. 

Let me know if you have trouble getting it and I'll put you in touch with him. I've forwarded your articles to him now and again.

Xx

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[V M]

Thanks, Jeanne. I am thinking of another (very) long essay on Kenya Goans, for maybe sometime at the end of the monsoon.

Warm regards, VM

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[augusto pinto]

Dear Vivek, 

Before I answer your question have a look at this article (which I thought I sent you before as I had mentioned you in it). 

It was published in Prokas Vol. 7 No. 11 of December 2019. Prokas is the parish bulletin of Moira and the issue I cite was a souvenir issue to mark the Moira Church feast of the Immaculate Conception of Mary. 

The Imprint of Moira

By Augusto Pinto

The feast of the Moira Church is as good a time as any to reflect upon Moira and its villagers in general and the Moira Church in particular. This is what I’ll be doing in this essay, the focus being on Moira and the printed word. It’ll survey what’s available in print regarding a) Moira and b) what’s been written by Moidekars in their fields of interest. 

Before I begin let me say firstly that this isn’t necessarily a comprehensive article about writing on Moira, or by Moidekars as I wrote it at fairly short notice. However it could serve as a stimulus for further study.

Secondly I don’t define Moidekar in a rigid way. The word is not limited to only the ganvkars of Moira or to only the residents of Moira or even to only the Christians of Moira but it’s open to all those who have a close connection with the village in some way or the other.

a) On the Moira Church and the Village of Moira 

The major sources available about the history of the village and especially about the church which used to be called the Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Conceição, later as Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception Church, and also Nixkollunk Sambhoullele Saibinichi Igroz can be found in, among other places, the works of Dr Teotonio de Souza, Dr Carmo Azevedo and Fr Moren de Souza S. J.

Dr. Teotonio de Souza Ph.D.: 

Dr. Teotonio de Souza (henceforth Theo as he was popularly called) who died in February 2019 was a son of Moira who became the founder-director of the Xavier Historical Research Centre in Porvorim. He wrote a slim 12-page monograph where he provides historical notes on the village which is entitled Moira: A Peep Into its Past. This was handed out as the souvenir of the 350 years celebration of the Moira Church which was held in 1986. 

Theo’s abilities to rigorously research into history led to this souvenir becoming the single most important source of information on Moira, and his work is one that all future writers on Moira will follow even if they might express their reservations and differences at some points. 

In it he touches upon the origins of Moira and its gauncaria; the pre-Portuguese Hindu deities of Moira; how the names of the older vaddos of Moira were derived; how the Franciscans converted the village to Christianity en masse; some anecdotes about Moira; some prominent ecclesiastics from Moira; and details about the church bell and other church ornaments. He also delivers little titbits of information. For instance the Mundoichim kellim of today mainly come mainly from Mencurem in Bicholim Taluka; and that most of the in-migrants into Moira come from Pernem taluka.

Apart from his writing about Moira in the souvenir Theo also alludes to Moira in the Introduction to his collection of essays Goa to Me which gives an idea of what village life was like during his childhood. As Theo was a very prolific writer, there are bound to be references to Moira in other places.

Dr.  Carmo Azevedo: 

Dr.  Carmo Azevedo (henceforth Azevedo) was a medical doctor but later found his true vocation as a journalist and was known to be a walking encyclopaedia on Goa. 

He was the former editor of the Portuguese newspaper O Heraldo and he was the author of several books. He was a ganvkar of Moira, of the third vangor according to Leroy Veloso, and although he stayed  in Panjim, his residence as indicated in the matricula records in the Communidade was in Soccorro. 

He wrote an article entitled ‘Immaculate Conception Church of Moira’ in the journal of the Goa Archives Purabhilekh - Puratatva (Vol. V, No. One, Jan-June, 1987). 

In many ways Azevedo follows Theo’s souvenir monograph which was published the previous year. However what he does is to either  confirm or contradict the opinions of the then Director of XCHR. For instance while Theo thought that the name of Moira came from mor meaning peacock which was the emblem of the Mauryas, Azevedo suggests that the old name for Moira was Mainddeam and suggests that the name came form the Kannada mahi and  indde meaning ‘piece of land’ which is why Moira bananas were known as Mundoichim kellim. (Hence I think that Azevedo ultimately conceded the point to Theo because in the January 1989 issue of Goa Today he wrote another article on Moira entitled ‘Memories of Moira’ in its  ‘Village Voice’ column. There without  referring to his Purabhilekh article, he repeats Theo’s contention that Moira is a corruption of Mauryavaddo, as Bardez was under Mauryan control in the 7th-8th centuries and “as can be inferred from some copper plates of the Mauryan Emperor Anirjitavarman”.) 

Returning to Azevedo’s Purabhilekh article, on the issue of the name of the church, while Theo thought that the church of Moira got its name from the priest Fr Luis de Conceição who presided over the mass baptism when the villagers were converted, Azevedo said that since Our Lady of Immaculate Conception is the patron saint of Portugal, numerous churches and chapels in those days were named after her.

In another place while Theo talks spoke of seven original deities in pre-Portuguese Moira, Azevedo actually lists out all the names of the deities. He also refers to the origins of the Moira bananas and its folk tales as collected by Lucio Rodrigues. One of the advantages of reading Azevedo is that he provides notes to all his assertions which allows the reader to go and check for herself. Azevedo’s article therefore is important supplementary reading to Theo’s monograph. 

Fr Moren de Souza S. J. 

Another source for information about the Moira Church is the book Bardescheo Igorzo (The Churches of Bardez) written by Fr Moren de Souza S. J. This is written in Roman Script Konkani and was published in 1999. Fr Moren too follows Theo and it appears that he was not aware of Azevedo’s articles. By and large Fr Moren repeats or elaborates on points which Theo had made as he does for instance when he explains why Povoaçåo ward is called ganv in Konkani and he sometimes compares Moira Church to other churches in Goa. What he does more than the others is to elaborate on the four main chapels of Moira. 

Lucio Rodrigues:

One defining phrase about the Moidekar is ‘the wise fools of Moira’ and from antiquity phrases like sar-koch Moidekar and taka matxem Moiddechem assa are used to describe them, even as Theo notes that even as early as 1852 a historian Felipe Nery Xavier had already stated that these phrases no longer applied to Moiddekars.

These little tales about the Moidekar were collected by Prof. Lucio Rodrigues, a Professor in Bombay who relocated to Goa, when he was invited to take over as Head of the Department of English at the then new Dhempe College, in the early sixties. The Moira tales are contained in a book of his collected writings named Soil and Soul and Konkani Folk Tales (1974) which was issued after his death in 1973, and reissued in 2015 as Abollim: The Flower Songs, Folk Tales and Legends of Goa. 

In the chapter ‘The Wise Fools of Moira’ Rodrigues delightfully narrates eight of these folk tales of which three relate to the Moira Church: one about how the villagers with the irresistible logic of farmers, wanted to increase the size of the church by manuring it; another was about how they decided to move the Church more in front by tying it up and dragging it forward; and the third about how on hearing in Church the priest call out Alleluias, the villagers heard it as Allem lum-ya and rushed to their fields where they had grown ginger (allem in Konkani) and harvested the crop - (lum-ya  in Konkani means ‘let’s harvest it’).

Souvenir of the Silver Jubilee (1971-1996) of the Villagers of Moira in Toronto 

Another source of information about Moira is the souvenir I mention above although this may be a little difficult to access. It is a nicely produced little volume that contains articles about Moira. Some of the matter is already available in the articles that I mentioned before this but there are also profiles about prominent Moidekars and their distinguished children and grandchildren from all over the world.

Dr. Stella Mascarenhas-Keyes

Mascarenhas-Keyes’s book Colonialism, Migration & the International Catholic Goan Community is, on the face of it, not about Moira but rather it’s a scholarly study about a fictional Goan village named Amora. However what makes it relevant to Moira is that the field study that Keyes did on migration of Goans was in Moira, and hence Amora and the people in it are a thinly disguised version of Moira and Moidekars.

Although her conclusions apply to all Goan emigrants it is specially relevant to Moidekars because since the mid-19th century there had been a steady flow of emigration from the village - like some other villages in Bardez too. Hence, it directly offers insight into the impact that the Moidekars who migrated had on the village back home.

Vivek Menezes

The next source of Moira in print is not of the printed word but of the printed photograph. In 2011 inside/out: New writing from Goa was published and among the contributions was a photo-essay by the writer-photographer Vivek Menezes called  ‘A Village Named Destiny’ It contains excellent pictures taken of Moira and its residents. The photographs printed in inside/out are part of a larger set of photographs that can be found here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11074204@N07/albums/72157602044303629/page1/

Conclusion

Before I conclude this section there are a few things that need to be mentioned regarding what’s not in print about the village. 

From the point of view of history I’ve had occasion to argue with Theo when he was alive that the histories of Moira written hitherto do not mention what the position was with regard to people known as the original inhabitants of Goa (mull goemkars) and that it focussed on the elites to the detriment of others. His  responses were defensive: to the first charge he said he only wrote about what he could find documented and to the second he cryptically said that he had written ‘Gaon thoim Morod’ meaning where there is a village there is barren land / a ward of the Mahar community. (Notice the pun on Morod which  can mean either or both). 

As Theo seems to suggest there is need for a history which is more modern. There is need to collect and collate current data about the village and then reflect upon the enormous changes that have taken place especially through migration both in and out of Moira especially post-Liberation, “bringing class contradictions to the fore … (where) … Moidekars are uneasily working out their social adjustments.”

b) On Moidekars in Print:

There are a number of Moidekars who have had their books published besides the ones already mentioned in the previous section and this is a random selection of some of these writers.

Peter Nazareth

If there is a category called ‘Goan Literature’ today, papers regarding which are taught at Goa University, then the blame must go to Peter Nazareth. Peter in 1983 edited an anthology of Goan writing for the Journal of South Asian Literature where he brought together not only writing in English by Goans but also literature in translation about Goa and Goans from other languages. This anthology is now available in book form as Pivoting on the Point of No Return.

Peter’s family house is in Novo Portugal, his grandfather being the one who is supposed to have got the ward so named according to Peter’s brother John H. R. They migrated to Malaysia where his father met his mother and then re-emigrated to Uganda. Educated at Makerere University and then the University of Leeds, Peter came back to Uganda where his first book In a Brown Mantle was released. This novel predicted the murderous expulsion of Asians by Idi Amin in whose finance ministry Peter worked for a while. He went on to Yale University and then to the University of Iowa where he conducts an international writing program. Peter has been a novelist - his other novel being The General is Up, a literary critic, a radio playwright and a literary critic and a multi-media theorist among other things. He has published about 14 books on different subjects.

Jerry Pinto:

Easily among the most professional and prolific Indians writing today is the Moidekar Jerry Pinto. Although he lives in Mahim, Mumbai, he is a regular visitor to Moira which is where his father Augustine was born and brought up. 

He writes in a number of genres: children’s books, poetry, biography (his book on the actress Helen won the best book on cinema award at the 54th National Film Awards) essays and fiction. He’s a translator and every writer who he has translated into  English has shot into national prominence where they were once regional voices. He’s a columnist in a number of journals and websites and an anthologist: he edited the anthology on Goa - Reflected in Water: Writings on Goa.

It’s his most remarkable work though, his hugely acclaimed first novel Em and the Big Hoom (2012) which won a slew of awards including the Sahitya Akademi award and the Wyndham-Campbell prize for fiction in 2016 that marks him out as the most acclaimed  literary artist  with a Moira heritage. 

Central to the novel are the narrator’s parents of whom his mother Em suffers from mental illness and his father Augustine Mendes is, like Jerry’s own father, a Moidekar. While the story the narrator tells about is regarding his sister Susan and his own relationship with their parents and is set primarily in Bombay every now and then the fruity and flowery fragrance of Moira floats out of it.  For Augustine Mendes, like Jerry’s own father of the same name, was brought up in Moira and like many another Moidekar moved on to other places, although along with his son, he does come back to Goa off and on like many a Bomoikar does to this day. As far as I know this is the only book of fiction (even though it might be 95% fact) that features Moira with such prominence.

John Maximian Nazareth

J. M. Nazareth was a lawyer, reportedly the first Queen’s Counsel of Asia, who was a very prominent figure in Kenya’s freedom struggle for he was the lawyer who defended their freedom fighters such as Jomo Kenyatta who later became the first President of Kenya. 

His book Brown Man, Black Country is a memoir about his life (wherein he incidentally  mentions that he studied for a while in a Portuguese primary school in Moira) which focuses upon his politics as a leader of the Indians of Kenya. Nazareth was a very principled politician ‘a maverick’ as his own children would call him for his espousal of lost causes and he fought against the racism of the British who ultimately prevailed in their divide and rule policy by turning Indians into objects of hatred in the eyes of Africans.

John Lawrence Anthony Nazareth

John Lawrence Nazareth was the son of J. M. Nazareth. He is a mathematician and he has written six books on his areas of specialisation. These can be seen on his university website: http://www.math.wsu.edu/faculty/nazareth/bio.html

In pursuing personal interests, he has also written and self-published two short books for limited circulation: Three Faces of God and Other Poems, (1986), and Reminiscences of an Ex-Brahmin: Portraits of a Journey Through India (1996); a stage-play in three acts, The Tease Spoons (2016), and a historical memoir, A Passage to Kenya: A Historical Collage of a Unique Time and Place (2017). 

It is these last few books, particularly A Passage to Kenya, which is the most accessible, which will be of most interest to the general Moidekar. In it he describes how his grandfather and granduncle emigrated to Kenya where they set up as shopkeepers, and later about his father J. M. who became an important politician in Kenya. These lives frame the story and lead us to learn about different aspects of both Goa and Kenya. 

Others

I haven’t been able to access the writings of many so I’ll merely list the names of important writers I’m aware about. From the ‘Roll of Honour’ section of his 1989 Goa Today ‘Village Voice’ article, Dr Carmo Azevedo lists the following writers from Moira:

Fr. Casimiro Gustovam de Nazare:

He was one of the greatest church historians of his times and the author of the classic Mitras Lusitanas no Oriente.

Jose Maria de Nazare

He was a well known numismatist and author of Nunismatica de India Portuguesa. He donated his rich collection of coins to the Vasco da Gama Institute of which he was a fellow.

Maria Rita de Azevedo

She was one of the few lady-writers of her times and generations.

There are probably others from Moira who have written books albeit technical ones such as Dr. Sylvestre Nazare, the nuclear scientist who lives in Europe. 

Then there is another group of writers who I haven’t dealt with because I couldn’t manage to access most of their writings in the time available, and these are some of the recent settlers in Moira. 

They include the screenwriter, children’s book writer and artist Venita Coelho; the poet Tanya Mendonca (who for some years stayed in Sataporio and is said to have written poems inspired by Moira); the novelist Siddharth Shanghvi who is currently the Honorary Director of Sunaparanta Arts Foundation and whose first book The Last Song of Dusk won prestigious debut literary awards in UK and Italy; The founder of Tehelka Tarun Tejpal, who despite the cloud of notoriety he is currently under, is, one cannot deny, a fine journalist and author; and the photographer David de Souza whose book Itenerants is a gorgeous photographic exploration of people who sell wares or perform on the streets, and his poet wife Charmayne who has written among others, a book of poems named A Spelling Guide to Women.

Conclusion:

To conclude this essay I would like to explicitly point out something which is pretty evident if you read carefully: the number of writers in this section who have been brought up in Moira itself is pretty sparse. Of the writers I have listed few seem to have honed their craft in the village itself. I find this an unhappy state of affairs for writers can contribute a great deal to the culture of their communities. 

Why is this happening? I’m not going to start a new essay right now but I’ll only point out one factor out of many to answer the question I have posed. That is the lack of a vigorous reading culture in Moira. Some time ago I was trying to start a library at a village institution and had even begun collecting books from various people for it. For some reasons I had to stay away for a while. When I returned later however and enquired about the progress of the library I was told that the books had been given away. When I asked why, I was told that, “Nobody wants to read.” Probably they meant that nowadays youngsters preferred to access information digitally. 

Nevertheless I was appalled. Reading on a computer screen or mobile phone is fine but it is the physical feel of a book that enhances the pleasure of the words you read and draws you to intellectual pursuits. However who was I to say what others or their children should do? So I kept my mouth shut and went away.

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(The writer started his career as a schoolteacher and is now Associate Professor in the Department of English at Dempo College. He is an essayist, book reviewer and translator from Konkani into English. His most recent work in book form are the translations of three Konkani poets in the anthology Goa: a Garland of Song; and translations of Jayanti Naik’s stories in The Salt of the Earth: Stories from Rustic Goa  which also has an afterword by him. He is currently working on the plays of the eminent Konkani litterateur Pundalik Naik. His hobbies are playing chess and swimming.)

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[Jeanne Hromnik]

Dear Selma

This is a personal memoir and was not intended for widespread distribution.

A Passage to Kenya, on the other hand, is an assembling of diverse historical and other sources. Its strength lies in the selection of sources. It is available on Amazon at a very reasonable price electronically and  in print.

All best 

Jeanne

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[Raymond Dias]

Hello Selma,

A cousin of mine, Avito Vaz, ex-Nairobi but now lives in Hemmel Hempstead, has old pictures of East African Goans that he wants to share with you. Some years ago, he had mentioned to me of the great things you were doing for us there in the UK; I had not paid attention to that, then. This morning you came up in our conversation and he is keen to get in touch with you. His email is: avit...@hotmail.com

Over to you... 

Raymond

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[Selma Cardoso]

Thank you very much Raymond. Will follow it up.

Take care,

selma

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[Elroy Carmo Vaz]

Dear Selma 
Do you have a copy of George Menezes books
I have only the one you most recently co-authored with him " The Naked Liberal"
Kindly advise 
Regards 
Elroy 

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Dear Jeanne,

 

I'm sure Larry will be sending it to me soon. Being mathematically challenged no doubt I will be lost in it. But he writes lovely poetry too. Maybe if he sets it to poetry :-)

 

All best wishes,

Selma

 

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Augusto, my brother has written ANOTHER book -- essays on algorithmic science. He sent me a link to one of them and I was thinking of asking him not to send me any more but don't want to hurt his feelings.

Instead I shall send him to Selma.

Jeanne 

 

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All best wishes,

selma

 

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[Selma Cardoso]

Hi Elroy,

I'm afraid I don't. 

Take care,

selma

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[Frederick Noronha]

If not mistaken, One Sip at a Time was published by the Daughters of St Paul. You could try there, online too. If you're in Goa, you could access these books at the Central Library, Pato, at their Goa books section on the fourth floor.

Goa books tend to be hard to find some years after publication, in part because they are bought by only a small number when first published (and few go in for frequent reprints). Also, both publishers and bookshops tend to be scattered across the geography of Goa and beyond. FN

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[augusto pinto]

https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/books/features/Time-traveller-one-George-Menezes/articleshow/22115309.cms

On Wed, 15 Jul, 2020, 10:29 PM augusto pinto, <pint...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.amazon.com/DeRecruited-Manager-Recounts-George-Menezes/dp/938569900

On Wed, 15 Jul, 2020, 10:27 PM augusto pinto, <pint...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/society-the-arts/books/story/19781031-book-review-pardon-your-middle-is-showing-by-george-menezes-823104-2014-03-15

Augusto. 

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[augusto pinto]

I used to correspond with old George.

 https://m-timesofindia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/m.timesofindia.com/city/goa/George-Menezes-a-multi-faceted-man/amp_articleshow/54283088.cms?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15948328765613&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

https://www.heraldgoa.in/Goa/George-Menezes-is-no-more/106139

May his soul rest in peace. 

Augusto. 

On Wed, 15 Jul, 2020, 10:37 PM augusto pinto, <pint...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Elroy:

I have two of the books mentioned above but I didn't bother to get up from my sofa to check. 

I just questioned Aunty Google. 

Best Regards, 

[augusto pinto]

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/society-the-arts/books/story/19781031-book-review-pardon-your-middle-is-showing-by-george-menezes-823104-2014-03-15

Augusto. 

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[augusto pinto]

Dear Elroy:

I have two of the books mentioned above but I didn't bother to get up from my sofa to check. 

I just questioned Aunty Google. 

Best Regards, 

[augusto pinto]

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On Wed, 15 Jul, 2020, 10:27 PM augusto pinto, <pint...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Eugene Correia]

 George's old books published St. Paul's Publishers were good, lighting reading. TI enjoyed reading his his middles in the Times of India . He came for the International Goan Convention in 1988 in Toronto and wrote a piece that lightly touched on Goan women here, saying he was surprised to see how the women's staples held on. Probably saw a lot of them.

He should have been a featured speaker, but the all-knowing Steering Committee didn't know George's mettle. One of the "leader" of the committee was confused between a George Menezes and George Moraes.

Eugene

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[Eugene Correia]

After all this talk and posting, there's no hope of getting Violet Dias Lannoy's unpublished novella to see the light of day.

MaybI request Peter to get her short stories together and one of Goa's publishers print them in a booklet format?

Eugene

[Selma Cardoso]

You have to get permission from Violet's estate or executor. If someone does manage to get permission without paying for rights, a book of this sort will enjoy a small niche market. My suggestion would be to publish it in e-format, although a print copy would be a collector's item. I can tell you publishing a print-run of about 100 copies can cost between Rs 30,000  to 40,000 depending on whether you hire a page designer etc. It's not a huge amount if we can crowd source it. Maybe anyone who wants a copy can pay in advance.

All best wishes,

selma

[Eugene Correia]

George's One Sip at a Time is light reading which I enjoyed much. It gives what George was all about. He had a knack at looking at things. A good company and listening to him was a delight.

One must know that he joined the BJP and was given a seat on its high panel. Asked why he choose to join it, his steady reply was that he wanted to try and change its mindset from being inside it. I think he was proposed by someone at the top, and I forget the person's name.

George was president of the Bombay Christian Association, and alos on lay committee of the Vatican.

Selma's stripping him Naked didn't reveal much. George had lot to hide, and perhaps VM should write about his uncle.

Eugene

Eugene Correia

[Selma Cardoso]

Dear Eugene,

Your high recommendation of my work and constant and predictable proposals that someone else should have done it, (I have them all catalogued in my brain) is endearing as usual. I wasn't writing an expose of George Menezes, 'to strip him', I was merely revealing him in 'his own words.'

Actually there is a very good story of how that book came about and I share it now because it highlights how we tend to neglect our writers and their body of work.

I think I used to write a column or something and George wrote to me one day telling me he liked my writing. I was very flattered. So we became online friends. At one point, George felt particularly dejected--he had been left out of some anthology which was being put together by someone or other, and I said to him, don't worry about that, we'll put together an anthology of your own work. You have a solid body of work and a glorious personal history and we will do a quasi-autobiographical book of your life. 

At the time, I had also rather ambitiously started on a biography project of 'Eight Goan Greats'. I was naive then and didn't realise that such a project was too large an undertaking and doomed to failure. One of the Goan Greats was Armando Menezes and I'd collected little bits and bobs of information on him. So I'd already had a bit of an inkling of George's family history which I  wove into George's project, and which finally became 'The Naked Liberal.' The story of how the title came about I will keep for another date. But I'm so glad that we are talking about the book, six years after it was published, and like all books it will have a long life ahead.

All best wishes,

selma

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