Global warming results from anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions which upset the delicate balance between the incoming sunlight, and the reflected and emitted radiation from Earth. The imbalance leads to energy accumulation in the atmosphere, oceans and land, and melting of the cryosphere, resulting in increasing temperatures, rising sea levels, and more extreme weather around the globe. Despite the fundamental role of the energy imbalance in regulating the climate system, as known to humanity for more than two centuries, our capacity to observe it is rapidly deteriorating as satellites are being decommissioned.
Earth's energy imbalance more than doubled in recent decades
The large trend has taken us by surprise, and as a community we should strive to understand the underlying causes
Our capability to observe the Earth's energy imbalance and budget terms is threatened as satellites are decommissioned
Global warming is caused by the imbalance between the incoming radiation from the Sun and the reflected and outgoing infrared radiation from the Earth. The imbalance leads to energy accumulation in the atmosphere, oceans and land, and melting of the cryosphere, resulting in increasing temperatures, rising sea levels, and more extreme weather around the globe according the the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Observations from space of the energy imbalance shows that it is rising much faster than expected, and in 2023 it reached values two times higher than the best estimate from IPCC. We argue that we must strive to better understand this fundamental change in Earth's climate state, and ensure our capacity to monitor it in the future.
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https://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2025/CloudFeedback.13May2025.pdfLarge Cloud Feedback Confirms High Climate SensitivityJames Hansen and Pushker Kharecha13 May 2025Abstract.Earth’s albedo (reflectivity) declined over the 25 years of precise satellite data, with the decline so large that this change must be mainly reduced reflection of sunlight by clouds. Part of the cloud change is caused by reduction of human-made atmospheric aerosols, which act as condensation nuclei for cloud formation, but most of the cloud change is cloud feedback that occurs with global warming. The observed albedo change proves that clouds provide a large, amplifying, climate feedback. This large cloud feedback confirms high climate sensitivity, consistent with paleoclimate data and with the rate of global warming in the past century.
Ron et al.--Just a note that the 3 C sensitivity is not "embedded" in the climate models. That is the value that emerges from the representations of the various physical processes that play out against each other. So, assuming the observations and resulting analyses are accurate, for there to be a higher sensitivity, it might be that some of the processes are not parameterized in a way that fully represents possibilities and realities (observations to calibrate parameterizations can be drawn from only the conditions we are experiencing), some processes are not represented at all (viewed as long-term such as isostatic rebound, etc.), the resolution of the models is not fine enough to treat aspects of the processes, etc. In any case, however, the 3 C sensitivity is not built into the models.
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Hi Jim--No need for a back and forth. I did not
mean to dismiss your calculation of sensitivity possibly being
4.5 C and don't disagree that the set of parameters used in
models now do tend toward yielding a 3 C sensitivity. Indeed, I
found your latest results very interesting, high as the
sensitivity seems if one goes back to when the CO2 concentration
is thought to be 4 or more times preindustrial.
In my interactions with Ron and others, I was interpreting their remarks to be saying that the climate sensitivity was directly specified as 3 C in the models independent of how the processes work and come together, and I wanted to say that that is not the case. At least that was what I was intending to say. I should perhaps have made more clear your point that some of the parameters in the existing model should, based on the time history of observations and seeking to match the model results to them could well be indicating that different parameters regarding cloud feedback are likely the case and this could lead to the higher sensitivity and improved the match to the multiple types of observations that you consider.
Good luck for your move back to New York City.
Best, Mike
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On May 19, 2025, at 8:39 PM, James Hansen <jimeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Agreed.
Mike
Hi Herb:I read Dr. Mararieva’s comments and I don’t believe she understood Jim’s recent communication fully. I explain Jim’s latest communication it in my recent Climate Chat program. In a nutshell, the Earth dimmed by 0.5% in the past 25 years. There are 3 main causes: 1) Less sea ice, 2) changes to aerosols, and 3) could feedbacks. We know (1) well from direct observation. The IPCC thinks (2) is less than Jim does, but if that it true then (3) is even bigger than Jim says. The bottom line is that there are large cloud feedbacks (less clouds as the planet warms) which implies a large ECS (4.5ºC). See my interview with George Tselioudis for more on cloud feedback:Global Warming➔Fewer Clouds➔More Warming! with George Tselioudis
https://youtube.com/live/suFZb2ViHoA
While biological processes of course play a role in climate change, it’s hard to see how a biological process played a role in changing the Earth’s albedo by 0.5% in the past 25 years, unless such process plays a major role in short-term cloud cover. Even if it did, it does not change Jim’s conclusions since he doesn’t say why the cloud feedback is so large, just that it is.Dan
Jim,I know that your time is short but if you have a few moments I’d love to get your response to Dr Anastassia Mararieva’s (who has a PhD in atmospheric physics and formulated the concept of the biotic pump ) article on Substack published today.She argues that the biosphere is neglected in both your work and the work of most mainstream climate modelers and scientists (I’m oversimplifying her argument of course but it touches on ECS, aerosols, clouds and much more.)Thanks,Herb
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ARSVR involves both solar radiation and thermal radiation to exert a cooling influence. Additional co-benefits can include run-off and erosion reduction, flood protection, carbon drawdown and sequestration, and promotion of increased biodiversity [104, 105]. There is some tension between the need for agricultural land versus. afforestation considering the increasing demand for food and impacts on local economies. Implementation would best aim for a complementarity achieved through a global land stewardship approach that balances need while maximizing benefits of afforestation, reforestation, regenerative agriculture, and agroforestry [102, 106]."