fancy a mystic?
Rosemary Rock-Evans
Serge and I exploiting mystic fancy [and fantasy] to the full and not an ounce of dark matter in sight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDjxTtx1FU&t=1s
Philip Benjamin
[Philip Benjamin]
Eastern world was engulfed in the mysticism of the unknowable Maya, Cosmic Egg, Yin-Yang etc., when unitary-noncommunicative- mono-theistic mysticism of Islam conquered most of it (still meditating!). The Western world is now engulfed in the same mysticism, when who knows what will conquer it? Marxist-Socialist-Fascism? Islam? Anarchy?
Western science dealt with the electric, entropic physical world of “light-matter and its chemistries” for physical phenomena so far, it is time to deal with the physical world of “dark-matter and its chemistries” for mental phenomena. And get out of the rut of un-knowable.
Philip Benjamin
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Subject: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic?
Serge and I exploiting mystic fancy [and fantasy] to the full and not an ounce of dark matter in sight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDjxTtx1FU&t=1s.
Rosemary Rock-Evans
Although the well known trick of 'deny its existence', may be tried I don't think it will work this time. People are getting a lot more astute at spotting this trick
rosie
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[Philip Benjamin] Answer to Roland:
Physical Resurrection!
[Roland Cichowski] Question from Roland:
“… why the split between what you call the western world and the rest of it. … “
[Philip Benjamin]
For science today what candidate is more suitable than bio dark-matter and its chemistry to incorporate resurrection or a “knowable” consciousness? The “roughness of world history” you are referring to can be reduced to the irreconcilable difference between the “knowable” universe of the Greek philosophy and the “unknowable” universe (Mystic Maya) of the East. Post-transformation Augustinian philosophy (https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine) is all about a “knowable” universe especially post-resurrection. Only a “knowable universe” can be subject to scientific analysis. It was far easier for Rabbi Saul of Tarsus to communicate with the Athenians (Acts 17) than the Doubting Thomas to deal with Indian mystics, though both had difficult access to the Roman Jewish colonies and the Cochin Jewish colony respectively.
[Philip Benjamin]
From: Roland Cichowski <rolandshh@
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 8:27 PM
To: Philip Benjamin <medin...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic?
Philip
Rightly or wrongly I am beginning to perceive your world view, maybe.
I like the rough world history and would not disagree with much of it.
However, why the split between what you call the western world and the rest of it. Why recognise a roman pagan mystic and credit them with a major alteration in human consciousness but decry the pagan background and influences it came from?
And in case you say that Augustine was not a mystic:
Hearing a child’s song and getting the idea that this was a message from god to read the bible opening it to find the first thing you read, a verse by Paul, triggers a massive change in consciousness. (Paul suffered under such a change of consciousness was also a Pagan). I would describe the experience they had as mystical, whether that changed them permanently for the better; that is hard to say. Such individuals often struggle to explain what they have experienced, may never experience it again, although it leaves its mark. Individuals who are born with it often develop more softly under its influence and are more accepting of the reality they live in.
There are mystics who are born to develop a ability to experience this way. There are mystics who manage to develop this ability and there are those whose minds are almost blown by the sudden emergence of even a brief glance of this type of consciousness. This is why you get terms like cosmic consciousness, god consciousness, pure consciousness, Christ consciousness, enlightenment. I would venture that Christ consciousness would mean to take on this kind of experience. I.e. Put on the Lord Jesus Christ [frame of mind].
This type of mystical awareness and experience is experienced across all humanity in all times, although it can be explained in different ways and cultural terms. It is often claimed that it is the source of all religions. Augustine and Paul are but two examples of this and in some ways they seem to have altered the main thrust of the teachings of Jesus a heavy karmic responsibility indeed.
So why the trust in Augustine’s view of things.
Roland
Philip Benjamin
[Philip Benjamin]
One is compelled to reiterate. There is an incorrect, but campus-popular WAMP argument that “Western Science has investigated the nature of this knowable universe [as physical or material]. ….. it can be perceived that it is in reality not physical and material in the normal sense of the words meanings. Physical reality disappears into something we label as a quantum flux”. Actually this is pre-transformational pagan Greco-Roman Augustinian thinking, which was completely wiped out in post-transformational non-pagan Augustinian system. All forms of paganism including erudite, atheistic, humanistic, totalitarian Marxism/Socialism/Fascism must necessarily have the singularity of an Uncaused First-Cause. What is MORE reasonable: Dead matter having aseity producing life or Aseitous LIFE producing both dead-matter and other life-forms? WAMP = Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism).
Only a degree of rationality can be established here. Freshmen classes are never challenged with fundamental questions of aseity, origin, meaning, morality, telos etc. Augustine (who in later life gave up on Platonism) unabashedly accepted the Athenian Mars Hill Discourse of Rabbi Saul of Tarsus, where the Greco-Roman unknown god was identified as the Risen Messiah of the Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) that has Patriarchal, Prophetic and Apostolic imprimatur.
Quantum-flux is what physicists arbitrarily “call”, based on the ‘CopenPagan’ Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, which is constructed on the false and artificial Particle-wave duality of the pioneer Physicist Niels Bohr after his Yin/Yang imagination. However, a particle is always particle and wave is always wave ( despite some physicists’ scurrilous claim that Yogis can perceive both particle and wave at the slit experiments!). De Broglie dealt with wave-like particle. Newton or Einstein never thought of corpuscles as waves. Young (Puritan) never thought of waves as particles. Physicists have to remember that Wave-likeness ≠ Waviness.
What property of Maya/Illusion is not explicable by bio dark-matter with its chemistry? There is an ordinary materialism of ordinary matter and extraordinary materialism of extraordinary matter. Both bio light-matter and bio dark-matter with their chemistries yield the resonant “light” (electric, entropic) & “dark” (non-electric, non-entropic) twins from the moment of conception. For the WAMP it is a taboo because it smacks of “spirit/soul”.
WAMP-the-Ingrate is the steali ng beneficiary of the Augustinian Trust!! None needs to mind being called a “bigot” for that statement.
Philip Benjamin
Roland Cichowski <rolandshh@ Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:09 PM Philip Benjamin medin...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic?
Philip
By knowable do you mean what most people would refer to as the physical or material universe?
If this is the case then I perceive that Western Science has investigated the nature of this knowable universe. As a result of this investigation it can be perceived that it is in reality not physical and material in the normal sense of the words meanings. Physical reality disappears into something we label as a quantum flux. Or that is the best way we can describe it, it being almost unknowable except by the use of speculation and symbolisation. Thus the knowable world disappears into the unknowable. The perception of a physical reality becomes an illusion.
Therefore when you state:
“…irreconcilable difference between the “knowable” universe of the Greek philosophy and the “unknowable” universe (Mystic Maya) of the East…”
To me it does not seem to be an irreconcilable difference at all. In fact Western Science has to all intents proven the validity of what you call the Mystic Maya of the East. Maya means illusion and Western Science has proven that the everyday knowable world of the physical exists only at the level of its smallest particle. (It’s usually conceived of as an atom.) The concept of an atom seems to have originated in your mystical east, which is ironic. Your ability to perceive what you seem to be calling something physical and therefore objective seems to rest in the ability of your mind to symbolise what you are calling the unknowable. In this respect your physical reality is an illusory symbolisation of what you call the unknowable.
Therefore if you are hoping for a physical resurrection any such occurrence would in reality be the restoration of the expression of your present form. This would have to originate from the unknowable in a future time, just as it originates in the unknowable in this moment. I’m not sure about an exact reproduction all things evolve in time and therefore you would need to change to some degree also.
When you consider this concept you should be able to perceive that it is also quite compatible with the idea of reincarnation. This I would expect you to dismiss as another Eastern Mystical idea. In fact it was a concept known to early Christians. When you contemplate the difference in the meanings between resurrection and reincarnation you can perceive they are intertwined. If a body and its associated consciousness, is resurrected having disintegrated and vanished then reformed. It is in effect reincarnated i.e. reformed. If you like to imagine it that way it would be re-formed from what you call the unknowable which I presume you equate with what you call dark matter.
Dark matter is a term I find confusing because it suggests it is some form of unseeable physical matter. Western science as you call it has already proven the origin of physical matter to be unknowable, a much better term for dark matter would be simply unknowable. It enables you to perceive it as something which generates the knowable. If you call it dark matter then it suggests it parallels light matter (the knowable). As light matter has been shown to be pretty insubstantial, in an ultimate reality sense, it leads to confused thinking. Another way to look at it is that the knowable generates the unknowable and the unknowable generates the knowable. There is another option and this is that the unknowable generates the knowable.
When you consider this you should be able to perceive more easily how it works. The alternative concept that dark matter is a parallel part of the material universe only embeds you deeper in the illusion.
You should not dismiss the mystical idea that all is mind so readily. If you would like to envisage the condition of the world at the time of the collapse of the pagan world I would recommend you watch in a thoughtful way a movie called Agora. It may make you feel uncomfortable if you are a committed Christian because it depicts early Christians to be of a very similar mindset to certain other movements that are occurring today. There was a great advance in knowledge in the ancient world that is not recognised today much of it was lost. You may also perceive it as what you call WAMP propaganda but before dismissing it out of hand you should at least consider the implications. The impetus of Western Science as you call, it True Gnosis as I would call it was set back several thousand years by the events of this time. The period of Augustine coincided with it. Let’s hope that history is not repeating itself.
More power to our journey. Roland
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Philip Benjamin
[Philip Benjamin]
Hi, Roland: I am not referring to any particular person, other than myself!! WAMP is me to begin with. A knowable physical universe is all that any true science can deal with. Many Worlds are also physical, but not knowable by any sense approximation and will require Many World chemistries to have any kind of Many World universes. Quantum explanation of mysticism via mathematical wave-function collapse by observation is a forced introduction of mysticism into science. There are only particles that beave LIKE waves—no wavicles!!
What Biospherical light matter (92+ elements of the Periodic Table) is to Astrophysical light matter (mostly H & He), is what Biospherical dark matter is to Astrophysical Dark matter. No property of Maya/Illusion is inexplicable by the PHYSICAL bio dark-matter with its chemistry. There is an ordinary materialism of ordinary matter and extraordinary materialism of extraordinary matter. Both bio light-matter and bio dark-matter with their chemistries yield the resonant “light” (electric, entropic) & “dark” (non-electric, non-entropic) twins from the moment of conception. For the WAMP it is a taboo because it smacks of “spirit/soul”.
What Augustine did was to reject Greco-Roman paganism (Platonism) and build on the foundation laid by the Apostles, especially by Saul of Tarsus at Mars Hill in Athens (Acts 17). They were all awakened or quickened by the extrinsic REAL Power of the Adonai of the Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles. They were unambiguous and unabashed about that. There is nothing mystical or ureal here. Transcendent reality is not necessarily non-physical. It may be extraordinarily physical and thus beyond ordinatry physical senses.
Philip Benjamin
From: Roland Cichowski <rolandshh@
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:18 PM
To: Philip Benjamin <medin...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FW: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic?
Oh dear Philip, I think I’m losing you again.
You seem particularly on the offensive all the time. Please note I commenced my last post with:
“BY KNOWABLE DO YOU MEAN WHAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD REFER TO AS THE PHYSICAL OR MATERIAL UNIVERSE? If this is the case then…”
By your reply it seems to me now that you don’t mean that. So, you could have said so and ignored the rest of my post which is built on the supposition that you do.
All right I will start again. Okay so I am wrong about it. This is ok. I am left wondering what your view of reality is?
All I can deduce so far is that it is something you call, ‘knowable’. That word though is a pretty wide net. Are you able to explain in general language what you mean by knowable, could be helpful.
In your reply you state:
Philip: Both bio light-matter and bio dark-matter with their chemistries yield the resonant “light” (electric, entropic) & “dark” (non-electric, non-entropic) twins from the moment of conception.
Roland: Well I don’t understand what you mean by Bio Light matter or Bio dark Matter. I know that dark matter is a term used by western scientists for the unseen part of a physical universe but you don’t seem to believe in that. If you don’t believe in a physical universe then how can you believe in a dark matter side of it? They are as you say twins.
Philip: For the WAMP it is a taboo because it smacks of “spirit/soul”.
Roland: This seems to suggest that you are treating me as a member of the WAMP which must be wrong on your part because I am arguing for the recognition of what you call the spiritual/soul. It is certainly not a taboo subject for me. Rather the opposite and when you say:
Philip: What is MORE reasonable: Dead matter having aseity producing life or Aseitous LIFE producing both dead-matter and other life-forms?
Roland: Well that is a bit hard to follow put that way. But I can tell you that I believe in a first cause however that only applies to this phenomenal world, you MIGHT see it as the creation. When it comes to the first cause of a god well the nature of god I believe is Aseitous, Sufficient unto itself. Therefore it follows that this phenomenal world has a first cause, god! Does that make me a WAMP it seems to in your book. As you follow the above with:
Philip: WAMP = Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism).
Roland: So, at the moment I can only deduce from all this that you see yourself as some sort of defender of catholic Augustinian orthodoxy against pagan beliefs, which have overtaken western science. I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS. Because you talk about dark matter and you have never made it clear to me what you are about. It all makes it sound more like a pretty good conspiracy theory. DON’T TAKE THAT TO SERIOUSLY, just searching to understand you.
And your last statement:
Philip: None needs to mind being called a “bigot” for that statement.
Are you calling me a WAMP ingrate? Stealing something from Augustine or the Catholic Orthodoxy, ‘a bigot’ or are you suggesting I am calling you a bigot. Because if you are I have not mentioned the word and would never accuse you of such, there is no need for it in a sensible discussion.
As I said and meant:
More power to our journey. Roland
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Subject: RE: FW: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic?
[Roland Cichowski]
“You seem to wish to restrict your studies to what is the knowable i.e. physical universe and are using what you call dark matter as a means to describe or at least acknowledge the possible existence of what is unknowable. Not accessible to our consciousness”.
[Philip Benjamin]
Yes, the rest of your letter seems to be centered around this. I do not restrict anything! Science has its restrictions and constraints. Mysticism does not belong to physical or chemical or biological sciences. Science has to deal with the observables and the measurables. Experimentation is a must here. Amrit Sorley’s “additional” bio mass experiments are relevant. So also are biophoton experiments including the pioneer works of Fritz-Albert Popp and the differences in biophoton emission rates across the taxa as well as different stages of development or health within the same species. Science should give up back door methods of bringing mysticism into science by forcing a particle-wave (wavicle) dualism into mathematical/statistical equations. Wave-likeness ≠ Waviness.
WAMP is a general term, sometimes a self-description. None in particular is implied.
Philip Benjamin
From: Roland Cichowski <rola...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:12 PM
To: Philip Benjamin <medin...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FW: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic?
Hi Philip,
PHILIP: Hi, Roland: I am not referring to any particular person, other than myself!! WAMP is me to begin with.
Roland: You have puzzled me again by saying this and then saying later:
PHILIP: For the WAMP it is a taboo because it smacks of “spirit/soul”.
Roland: Are you saying that as you are a WAMP the issue of spirit/soul is a taboo subject for you?
PHILIP: No property of Maya/Illusion is inexplicable by the PHYSICAL bio dark-matter with its chemistry….
ROLAND: Perhaps I’m beginning to perceive where our wires are crossed. I think I would agree because what you call the physical both light and dark, is a relational phenomenon. In other words it all has to hang together. You can examine and test out those relationships and it will all make sense to you. Except for the odd thing like telepathy and what Jung (you don’t have to repeat that in your view Jung was a pagan) called synchronicity.
So when you say that in your view:
PHILIP: A knowable physical universe is all that any true science can deal with.
ROLAND: That might seem to be almost true and it is your use of the word knowable that seems to be the key to this issue.
You seem to wish to restrict your studies to what is the knowable i.e. physical universe and are using what you call dark matter as a means to describe or at least acknowledge the possible existence of what is unknowable. Not accessible to our consciousness.
So I need to ask you to consider; what if the knowable physical universe is an illusion? Doubtless you will reject this idea. However sciences investigation of our universe suggests especially in relation to how our senses work that this is a very real possibility.
Think about it; dreams are knowable. Illusions are knowable. They are not physical. What lies behind the construct of a rainbow is knowable but strictly speaking a rainbow does not exist in the way we know it; as a multi-coloured arch. It is in the physical sense a load of raindrops refracting light. Positioning seems to have something to do with our perception of it as an arch. The actual bowing of it and its appearance to consciousness as a coloured arch seems to be to do with how our consciousness chooses to see it. I love the folklore / symbology of the rainbow as a bridge to crock of gold. Where the gold again symbolises knowledge or gnosis i.e. could make sense.
So, for me the knowable physical world appears to be an illusion, an illusion driven by something else. This something else is what I MIGHT describe as spirit/soul. This spirit/soul would seem to be the seat of our consciousness, which is the topic we should be discussing. You’ve made other comments which are interesting but unfortunately I don’t have time to include in this post.
But I would suggest the above is where we seem to be parting company in our thinking.
You may be knowing of an incredible illusion. The problem is by accepting it as the only knowable reality you might be precluding yourself from investigating what the cause of it is. You can however continue to investigate how all the bits of this illusion hang together in a coherent whole. That doesn’t make the illusion physically real though, just more knowable.
I can see that this might disturb any idea of a physical resurrection. However, a resurrection within the confines of the illusion is still a possibility. But what you consider, the more paganistic perception of reincarnation still fits this view of things. A resurrection within an illusional and knowable reality can still occur. The mechanisms of how might fit better with the idea of a reincarnating physical body driven by the unknowable forces behind the illusion. That might seem to make more sense than all those atoms and bits recombining competing over which body can use them. The physical components of one’s body are dispersed at death the forces behind the illusion are more than capable of driving illusional physical components together in a way which will support the same or similar consciousness/spirit that we are in this existence. Some change will occur though because we learn from this existence or we are supposed to.
Roland Cichowski
On 1/03/2021 4:41, Philip Benjamin wrote:
[Philip Benjamin]
Hi, Roland: I am not referring to any particular person, other than myself!! WAMP is me to begin with. A knowable physical universe is all that any true science can deal with. Many Worlds are also physical, but not knowable by any sense approximation and will require Many World chemistries to have any kind of Many World universes. Quantum explanation of mysticism via mathematical wave-function collapse by observation is a forced introduction of mysticism into science. There are only particles that beave LIKE waves—no wavicles!!
What Biospherical light matter (92+ elements of the Periodic Table) is to Astrophysical light matter (mostly H & He), is what Biospherical dark matter is to Astrophysical Dark matter. No property of Maya/Illusion is inexplicable by the PHYSICAL bio dark-matter with its chemistry. There is an ordinary materialism of ordinary matter and extraordinary materialism of extraordinary matter. Both bio light-matter and bio dark-matter with their chemistries yield the resonant “light” (electric, entropic) & “dark” (non-electric, non-entropic) twins from the moment of conception. For the WAMP it is a taboo because it smacks of “spirit/soul”.
What Augustine did was to reject Greco-Roman paganism (Platonism) and build on the foundation laid by the Apostles, especially by Saul of Tarsus at Mars Hill in Athens (Acts 17). They were all awakened or quickened by the extrinsic REAL Power of the Adonai of the Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles. They were unambiguous and unabashed about that. There is nothing mystical or ureal here. Transcendent reality is not necessarily non-physical. It may be extraordinarily physical and thus beyond ordinatry physical senses.
Philip Benjamin
From: Roland Cichowski <rolandshh@
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:18 PM
To: Philip Benjamin <medin...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FW: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic?
Oh dear Philip, I think I’m losing you again.
You seem particularly on the offensive all the time. Please note I commenced my last post with:
“BY KNOWABLE DO YOU MEAN WHAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD REFER TO AS THE PHYSICAL OR MATERIAL UNIVERSE? If this is the case then…”
By your reply it seems to me now that you don’t mean that. So, you could have said so and ignored the rest of my post which is built on the supposition that you do.
All right I will start again. Okay so I am wrong about it. This is ok. I am left wondering what your view of reality is?
All I can deduce so far is that it is something you call, ‘knowable’. That word though is a pretty wide net. Are you able to explain in general language what you mean by knowable, could be helpful.
In your reply you state:
Philip: Both bio light-matter and bio dark-matter with their chemistries yield the resonant “light” (electric, entropic) & “dark” (non-electric, non-entropic) twins from the moment of conception.
Roland: Well I don’t understand what you mean by Bio Light matter or Bio dark Matter. I know that dark matter is a term used by western scientists for the unseen part of a physical universe but you don’t seem to believe in that. If you don’t believe in a physical universe then how can you believe in a dark matter side of it? They are as you say twins.
Philip: For the WAMP it is a taboo because it smacks of “spirit/soul”.
Roland: This seems to suggest that you are treating me as a member of the WAMP which must be wrong on your part because I am arguing for the recognition of what you call the spiritual/soul. It is certainly not a taboo subject for me. Rather the opposite and when you say:
Philip: What is MORE reasonable: Dead matter having aseityproducing life or Aseitous LIFE producing both dead-matter and other life-forms?
Roland: Well that is a bit hard to follow put that way. But I can tell you that I believe in a first cause however that only applies to this phenomenal world, you MIGHT see it as the creation. When it comes to the first cause of a god well the nature of god I believe is Aseitous, Sufficient unto itself. Therefore it follows that this phenomenal world has a first cause, god! Does that make me a WAMP it seems to in your book. As you follow the above with:
Philip: WAMP = Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism).
Roland: So, at the moment I can only deduce from all this that you see yourself as some sort of defender of catholic Augustinian orthodoxy against pagan beliefs, which have overtaken western science. I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS. Because you talk about dark matter and you have never made it clear to me what you are about. It all makes it sound more like a pretty good conspiracy theory. DON’T TAKE THAT TO SERIOUSLY, just searching to understand you.
And your last statement:
Philip: None needs to mind being called a “bigot” for that statement.
Are you calling me a WAMP ingrate? Stealing something from Augustine or the Catholic Orthodoxy, ‘a bigot’ or are you suggesting I am calling you a bigot. Because if you are I have not mentioned the word and would never accuse you of such, there is no need for it in a sensible discussion.
As I said and meant:
More power to our journey. Roland
On 25/02/2021 2:25, Philip Benjamin wrote:
[Philip Benjamin]
One is compelled to reiterate. There is an incorrect, but campus-popular WAMP argument that “Western Science has investigated the nature of this knowable universe [as physical or material]. ….. it can be perceived that it is in reality not physical and material in the normal sense of the words meanings. Physical reality disappears into something we label as a quantum flux”. Actually this is pre-transformational pagan Greco-Roman Augustinian thinking, which was completely wiped out in post-transformational non-pagan Augustinian system. All forms of paganism including erudite, atheistic, humanistic, totalitarian Marxism/Socialism/Fascism must necessarily have the singularity of an Uncaused First-Cause. What is MORE reasonable: Dead matter having aseity producing life or Aseitous LIFE producing both dead-matter and other life-forms? WAMP = Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism).
Only a degree of rationality can be established here. Freshmen classes are never challenged with fundamental questions of aseity, origin, meaning, morality, telos etc. Augustine (who in later life gave up on Platonism) unabashedly accepted the Athenian Mars Hill Discourse of Rabbi Saul of Tarsus, where the Greco-Roman unknown god was identified as the Risen Messiah of the Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) that has Patriarchal, Prophetic and Apostolic imprimatur.
Quantum-flux is what physicists arbitrarily “call”, based on the ‘CopenPagan’ Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, which is constructed on the false and artificial Particle-wave duality of the pioneer Physicist Niels Bohr after his Yin/Yang imagination. However, a particle is always particle and wave is always wave ( despite some physicists’ scurrilous claim that Yogis can perceive both particle and wave at the slit experiments!). De Broglie dealt with wave-like particle. Newton or Einstein never thought of corpuscles as waves. Young (Puritan) never thought of waves as particles. Physicists have to remember that Wave-likeness ≠ Waviness.
What property of Maya/Illusion is not explicable by bio dark-matter with its chemistry? There is an ordinary materialism of ordinary matter and extraordinary materialism of extraordinary matter. Both bio light-matter and bio dark-matter with their chemistries yield the resonant “light” (electric, entropic) & “dark” (non-electric, non-entropic) twins from the moment of conception. For the WAMP it is a taboo because it smacks of “spirit/soul”.
WAMP-the-Ingrate is the steali ng beneficiary of the Augustinian Trust!! None needs to mind being called a “bigot” for that statement.
Philip Benjamin
Roland Cichowski <rolandshh@ Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:09 PM Philip Benjamin medin...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] fancy a mystic?
Philip
By knowable do you mean what most people would refer to as the physical or material universe?
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