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Donald Dale Milne

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May 27, 2025, 8:46:36 PMMay 27
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    As you may have noticed, Steffen Nyeland has proposed on the Main
list that we allow him to product and use GCD logo t-shirts. As some
folks have noted, we have done something similar in the past, wearing
official GCD t-shirts at conventions.

    He intends to place text on the back of the shirts, probably be in
Danish, with a message something like: "Expose your comics worldwide?
Ask me how." or "All publishers: Help your creators - index on
Comics.org." or some similar message to encourage "small" publishers to
join GCD and index and update their catalog in our database.  He expects
they may be interested in the opportunity to increase the exposure for
themselves and their writers and artists. He also expects that walking
around the booths at conventions may be an effective method of
initiating a discussion and eventual information indexing by publishers
and creators.  He further proposes to use the official logos from
https://github.com/GrandComicsDatabase/gcd-support , which include the
"TM" notice and are what is used on our website.

    I agree that the idea could be a good one to pursue, as it
perfectly fits our mission of, "... documenting and indexing all comics
for the free use of scholars, historians, researchers, and fans.", by
attempting to recruit more indexers.

    For the record, we still have two accounts to purchase logo
t-shirts (maybe).  One with Red Bubble at
https://www.redbubble.com/de/i/t-shirt/GCD-grundlegendes-wei%C3%9Fes-Wort-Ballon-Logo-von-GCDcomics/23875777.1YYVU
.  I think Daniel Naushuetz set this up in 2014 when we were doing
conventions.  We would get a small cut from the income, but Daniel is
gone and no one can now access the account.  The other is with Land's
End at https://business.landsend.com/store/gcd/ .  Michael Grabois set
this up, also in 2014 (?), and probably can still access it if we ever
derive any income from sales

    Thoughts, counter-proposals, details, problems, discussion?

- Don Milne

Matthew Gore

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May 28, 2025, 7:14:41 AMMay 28
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I wore the heck out of my 2014 GCD shirt until it literally fell apart and seen no problem with another round for promotion. I’d buy another one of these if I could get one.

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On May 27, 2025, at 7:46 PM, Donald Dale Milne <dond...@att.net> wrote:

    As you may have noticed, Steffen Nyeland has proposed on the Main list that we allow him to product and use GCD logo t-shirts. As some folks have noted, we have done something similar in the past, wearing official GCD t-shirts at conventions.
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Ramon Schenk

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May 30, 2025, 10:06:03 AMMay 30
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I have no problems with Steffen using the old design and adding his own text. In fact, I have been doing the same since 2014!

Ramon

Op wo 28 mei 2025 13:14 schreef 'Matthew Gore' via gcd-board <gcd-...@googlegroups.com>:

L Jámal Walton

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May 30, 2025, 11:58:53 AMMay 30
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It may be time to make GCD t-shirts widely available with new designs. 
We could create a store on a POD website. 
I've used RedBubble in the past. An $18 t-shirt nets about $2,50 in profit. 

Maybe we could introduce new designs every 6-12 months.
Maybe we could hire a designer or comic artist to create new designs.
If we wanted a committee to explore this, I'd be willing to be a member of that committee.

(I sent this yesterday and never saw it come through. My apologies if this is a repeat for you.)

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ljamal77

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May 30, 2025, 5:24:10 PMMay 30
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There are many print-on-demand sites where we could release new designs and have the profit from the sale of shirts flow into the GCD accounts.
I've used RedBubble.com in the past. A  RedBubble.com t-shirt that costs 18.30 USD nets about 2.50 USD in profit. 
There is a minimum threshold of 20 USD before funds are released. Funds can be released directly to a PayPal account.

Perhaps, we could have a designer create some t-shirt ideas and/or hire a comic artist to illustrate a comic-style design.
Introducing a new design every 6-12 months would be a way to promote the GCD and bring in revenue.
I would love to sit on a committee that was in charge of generating new shirt designs and hiring designers/ artists to produce new designs.


Donald Dale Milne

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May 30, 2025, 6:20:45 PMMay 30
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    Your first e-mail got caught in the spam filter.  I've freed it.

    New volunteers to handle the sales, designs, promotion, etc. would definitely be needed.  Thanks for being the first.  🙂

    At $2.50 net per shirt, I'm not sure the effort would be worth it unless someone promoted the sales well.  I would note that we have had merchandise available at least twice in the past and both accounts are now stagnant, as the persons who developed them left.

- Don Milne

L Jámal Walton

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May 30, 2025, 10:26:58 PMMay 30
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My shirts are set to the lowest amount possible. 
We can always change the margins to make more. Standard markup is 20%. 


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Donald Dale Milne

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Jun 4, 2025, 3:23:36 PMJun 4
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    OK, we've had a few people who like the concept of GCD t-shirts.  We have one person volunteer to sit on a committee in charge of generating new shirt designs and hiring designers / artists to produce new designs.  We also have one person in favor of allowing Steffen to use the old design and add his own text, noting he has also done that before.  We have one person confirming that RedBubble is a good website to use for sales.

    What we do not have is comments from everyone, to construct a plan.  We also do not have volunteers to run the store, or any motion to discuss (either about allowing this specific proposal or running a new GCD merchandise store).  I propose that I go to the membership to find volunteers to run the store, before we move any further to have a store.

    But if anyone wishes to continue discussion or a motion towards allowing the specific use proposed by Steffen, please do.

- Don Milne

sangorshop

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Jun 4, 2025, 4:53:44 PMJun 4
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Who would buy these shirts?   If we feel that they have some appeal to a broader market, then sure add a few dollars more to the price.
However I personally feel they would be mostly bought by the hardcore indexers and GCD faithful, and worn more as advertising for us.

Steven Rowe

Matthew Gore

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Jun 4, 2025, 5:43:26 PMJun 4
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Yep, this.

 

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Donald Dale Milne

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Aug 12, 2025, 6:12:41 PMAug 12
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    Maybe it's time to pick this up where we left off.  Jámal has volunteered to be on a committee. What we need to deal with is sales, designs, promotion, pricing, etc.  Anyone else want to help out?  Does Red Bubble seem to be a place we want to set up on (again)?

- Don Milne

Jochen G.

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Aug 13, 2025, 12:43:55 AMAug 13
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We should look for a website that works internationally, i.e. ideally
has different locations to reduce shipping.

Spreadshirt operates in Europe and the US (at least), but one might need
to set the things up separately.

Am 12.08.25 um 17:12 schrieb Donald Dale Milne:
>     Maybe it's time to pick this up where we left off.  Jámal has
> volunteered to be on a committee. What we need to deal with is sales,
> designs, promotion, pricing, etc.  Anyone else want to help out?  Does
> Red Bubble seem to be a place we want to set up on (again)?
>
> - Don Milne
>
> On 6/4/2025 5:43 PM, 'Matthew Gore' via gcd-board wrote:
>>
>> Yep, this.
>>
>> *From:*gcd-...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of *sangorshop
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 04, 2025 3:54 PM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [gcd-board] Official t-shirts
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>> Who would buy these shirts?   If we feel that they have some appeal to
>> a broader market, then sure add a few dollars more to the price.
>>
>> However I personally feel they would be mostly bought by the hardcore
>> indexers and GCD faithful, and worn more as advertising for us.
>>
>> Steven Rowe
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 8:26 PM L Jámal Walton <ljam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My shirts are set to the lowest amount possible.
>>
>> We can always change the margins to make more. Standard markup is
>> 20%.
>>
>>
>> L Jámal Walton (he/him)
>>
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>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 10:06 AM Ramon Schenk
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>> I have no problems with Steffen using the old design
>> and adding his own text. In fact, I have been doing
>> the same since 2014!
>>
>> Ramon
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>> Op wo 28 mei 2025 13:14 schreef 'Matthew Gore' via
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>> I wore the heck out of my 2014 GCD shirt until it
>> literally fell apart and seen no problem with
>> another round for promotion. I’d buy another one
>> of these if I could get one.
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