OT:Matthias Melcher's emails, thunderbird and fltkgeneral.

[Gonzalo Garramuño]

I have a question for Matthias regarding fltkgeneral, thunderbird and
google groups.

Under thunderbird at least, I find that on fltkgeneral, Mathias emails
are marked as that address (and thunderbird adds his contact information
to that address), instead of his personal address like on fltkcore.  I
am not sure if I reply the email will go to fltkgeneral instead.  Also,
sometimes I see other users posting to fltkgeneral and the sender gets
marked as Matthias when in fact was another user.  That just happened to
some emails on the Drop configure thread.

Am I the only one seeing this and is there any way to fix this?

--
Gonzalo Garramuño
ggar...@gmail.com

[Matthias Melcher]

No idea. I use the web interface to Google groups with my m...@googlemail.com account (very old, not gmail). Not sure what to do about it. I really don't like Google Groups. 

I did send a message in the Drop thread about 4h ago though, concerning  test/bitmap. 

 - Matthias

[Greg Ercolano]

I'm probably the best one to answer this, as I manage the FLTK google groups
and the interfaces to the seriss.com usenet server and web forum interface.

I use thunderbird too, receiving the google group via the mailing list
which I have filtered to a separate folder.

I do remember having to play around with Thunderbird's config to disable
the confusing "Reply" button that would sometimes reply to the group and
sometimes reply via private email.

I found I could disable that confusing button, so that the only one I see
is the "Reply List" button at the top/right of messages, and I've been using
that for a while now and not had trouble since.

So for instance when I'm replying to your message, I use the "Reply List"
(red arrow in this screenshot), which always replies to the list:

    I can try to find the Thunderbird config info I used, as I believe I was working on this
    with Albrecht some time ago..

[Greg Ercolano]

On 3/15/24 15:23, Greg Ercolano wrote:

So for instance when I'm replying to your message, I use the "Reply List" (red arrow in this screenshot), which always replies to the list:

I can try to find the Thunderbird config info I used, as I believe I was working on this with Albrecht some time ago..

   For what it's worth, here's a thread I had with Albrecht about my thunderbird config back in 2018~2020.

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Albrecht: Sorry if it's too long and/or some lines wrap.

You appear to be using thunderbird, to avoid word wrap on outbound messages, try setting: Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Config Editor ..search for "wrap", and change: mailnews.wraplength to 999 I'm not sure if other options need to be set, but I set this up many many years ago -- it ensures when I paste code, it doesn't get wrapped on send.

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Albrecht: I have "Thunderbird 68.2.2 (64-bit)" 

    FWIW, mine's 68.3.0

and this has two buttons when reading the mailing list:

1) Reply
2) Reply List (with a dropdown arrow like Fl_Choice)

    Yes, me as well.. the button arrangement looks like this:

If you don't have this version, you (certainly know that you) can 
right-click on the message and select "Reply to List").

    Right -- I always seem to use the toolbar button.

I just found out that you can right-click in the mail's toolbar (where 
the "Reply" button is located) and then click "Customize".

    Yes, that works for me too..

 The "Reply List" button is then called "Smart Reply". Maybe you can drag this 
button to the toolbar? I just dragged it out and in again, works for me.

    I don't seem to have a "Smart Reply" option under customize.. perhaps they removed it:

   

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Hmm, really? You wrote that you have 68.3 which seems to be the higher 
version.

	Ya, what I have is 68.0.3, which is lower.

	If upgrading doesn't work I should backgrade. I don't think I upgraded it
	on purpose; I had to update the OS, and it dragged a tbird update with it I think.

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I may have found a workable solution.

Apparently in the "message header bar" which is above the first line of text when reading a message, that also has buttons for "Reply" and "Forward".

I found if I visit my FLTK mailing list folder, open the Customize dialog for /that/, and drag 'Reply' out of that bar and into the "customize" dialog to make it disappear, then "Reply List" is the only choice.

And if I go back to regular email, plain old "Reply" is the only choice in that bar.

I know I tried this trick already with the main toolbar (below the File/Edit menu) back when the upgrade happened, but removing "Reply", it stays gone no matter which folder you're reading, which is bad. I just need it gone when reading the mailing lists.

So now I can just remove "Reply" and "Reply All" from the main toolbar completely so I don't make the mistake of using it, and just depend on the buttons in the header bar.

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1) Reply
2) Reply List (with a dropdown arrow like Fl_Choice)

    Yes, me as well.. the button arrangement looks like this:

    Oh, and I meant to write: I seem to be entirely hardwired to hit "Reply" no matter what.

    Decades of conditioning I guess, as I've been using this since the early 2000's,
    back when mail was part of the browser (so when the browser crashed, which was often,
    your email compostions died with it, lol)

    I'll  look again for an extension. Or maybe I can upgrade to 68.2.2 like you have.

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On 2020-01-30 18:09, Greg Ercolano wrote:

I may have found a workable solution.

    So my two mail reader screens look like this now,
    only one "Reply" is available, and it's always the "right" one: