Can Blaze plan be cheaper than Flame?

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Vojtech Rinik

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May 25, 2016, 5:15:30 PM5/25/16
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Hi,

we have a small app – 100mb data stored, less than 1gb transferred, but a lot of users. So happy that we don't have to pay $50/mo anymore!

Plan Flame at $25/mo sounds like the right choice for us, but when I'm looking at Blaze (plan for apps at scale), it sure sounds like we would pay even less. No way we'll store more than 1GB, so $5 for that, and then $1-$2 for data transferred. 



Am I missing something here, or will switching to Blaze save us $20/mo?



thanks!

Tom Larkworthy

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May 25, 2016, 5:40:41 PM5/25/16
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Yes it can be cheaper. The flame plan is for developers who want assurances that the bill can never go over a certain amount. But with the Blaze plan, you only pay for what is consumed, which could be a small amount if you are not consuming much.

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Vojtech Rinik

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May 26, 2016, 10:21:39 AM5/26/16
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Great, thanks!

Also I'm not seeing any stats about data stored/transferred in the new console. :-/ I can see now how this can backfire. But since this is a todo app storing minimum of data, and it costs $5 upfront, we should be fine.

Thanks!

Jacob Wenger

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May 27, 2016, 10:22:15 PM5/27/16
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The analytics tab ran into some issues prior to I/O and hasn't been ported to the new console just yet. It is coming though and is a high priority for the team working on the dashboard. Hang tight!

Jacob

Nilton Felicio

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May 30, 2016, 12:21:17 PM5/30/16
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Firebase use Google Cloud structure. Why The cost of GB Firebase is $ 5.00 and to Google Cloud the cost is $ 0.18 for the same GB?
There's something wrong?


https://cloud.google.com/datastore/#pricing

Tom Larkworthy

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May 30, 2016, 12:57:26 PM5/30/16
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They are all quite different products with radically different back end infrastructure. Datastore queries are richer but typically are eventually consistent. And realtime DB queries results are pushed to clients, no polling for changes. You don't need an intermediate server with the real-time DB, you can connect client devices directly. All of them are cheap for what they do, so I would concentrate on which has the features that you need.

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Nilton Felicio

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May 30, 2016, 1:57:43 PM5/30/16
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Excuse me. But still this hard to understand this difference.
Is there any place where I can check the differences of the two services?

Because the Firebase's website says that the costs are based on plataform Google Coud.

$ 5.00 (Firebase) - $ 0.18 (GC) / GB / month ?????





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Frank van Puffelen

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May 30, 2016, 2:07:53 PM5/30/16
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Nilton,

When a Firebase feature is a fairly direct mapping of the underlying Google Cloud Platform feature, the pricing is the same. 

But as Tom said the Firebase Realtime Database is not mapped to Cloud Datastore, so it has its own pricing. If the price point of our Realtime Database doesn't work for you, I suggest switching to our Blaze plan and using Datastore directly.

Cloud Datastore is a JSON store that follows a request/response model. The Firebase Realtime Database is a JSON store that instead synchronizes data to connected clients. Instead of us doing a full comparison here and risk us missing things that are important to you, I recommend you check the documentation for both and get back to us here if you have concrete questions after reading up.

     puf

Nilton Felicio

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May 30, 2016, 2:37:30 PM5/30/16
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Thank you for the explanation.
I began to understand the difference between the 2 NoSQL database models.
I will read more about the documentation.

Thank you Frank and Tom.

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