I see that the majority way of thinking of people is the dismissive kind. Tell them "there is telepathy" and they will say "no there isn't!". The problem with this attitude is that it is end of story. How do this people that dismiss everything expect progress to be made ? They say: "Let the scientists prove telepathy!", put if a scientist tries to actually do an experiment, they come and say again: "Stop doing the experiment, telepathy doesn't exist!". So how is progress to be made if they create an infinite loop of denial? Very few people (including myself) take the constructive attitude: "Ok, here is an interesting phenomenon. How it might work?".
Why do people waste their lives playing the "smart skeptic" card dismissing everything instead of actually doing something about trying to find an explanation ? How is an explanation to be found if they reject from the very start the phenomenon ? They say: "Oh, but we are not rejecting it, we are actually encourage scientists to prove it!". Ok, but how are scientists to prove it, if a theoretical framework is not laid down first ? In order to actually build an experiment, you need to know what you want to experiment with in the first place. But if you reject from the very start any attempt at hypothesis formulation, how is the experiment to be designed ?
See ? Exactly what I was telling. You dismiss from the start something, without giving the least amount of thought. Why do you live on this planet if all that you know is to bring negativity ? Why don't you kill yourself ?
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On 28 May 2019, at 00:19, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:I see that the majority way of thinking of people is the dismissive kind. Tell them "there is telepathy" and they will say "no there isn't!”.
The problem with this attitude is that it is end of story. How do this people that dismiss everything expect progress to be made ? They say: "Let the scientists prove telepathy!", put if a scientist tries to actually do an experiment, they come and say again: "Stop doing the experiment, telepathy doesn't exist!”.
So how is progress to be made if they create an infinite loop of denial? Very few people (including myself) take the constructive attitude: "Ok, here is an interesting phenomenon. How it might work?”.
Why do people waste their lives playing the "smart skeptic" card dismissing everything instead of actually doing something about trying to find an explanation ?
How is an explanation to be found if they reject from the very start the phenomenon ?
They say: "Oh, but we are not rejecting it, we are actually encourage scientists to prove it!". Ok, but how are scientists to prove it, if a theoretical framework is not laid down first ? In order to actually build an experiment, you need to know what you want to experiment with in the first place. But if you reject from the very start any attempt at hypothesis formulation, how is the experiment to be designed ?
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> If a person lives only to make negative comments about everything, then yes, it is a legit question to ask what they live for.
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On 28 May 2019, at 19:34, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Name 3 explanations.
On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:52:27 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:On the contrary, there are many explanations possibles,I gave already one: radio-waves (but your answer was that this was not telepathy).Another one is the common cause. People argued that they did a telepathic experience because they decide to phone to each other at the exact same time, but that type of things could be explained by common cause.Then, like with many things of that type, an explanation is that telepathy does not exist, but results from wishful thinking and lack of sense of rigour. Here the explanation is prestidigitation. Some parapsychological phenomena have been explained(away) in this manner, and telepathy might be one of them.Bruno
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On 30 May 2019, at 08:37, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:I asked for explanations, not for explanations away. So far you mentioned 1, though you claimed that there are many. 2 more please.
On Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:49:39 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:On 28 May 2019, at 19:34, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Name 3 explanations.
On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:52:27 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:On the contrary, there are many explanations possibles,I gave already one: radio-waves (but your answer was that this was not telepathy).
Another one is the common cause. People argued that they did a telepathic experience because they decide to phone to each other at the exact same time, but that type of things could be explained by common cause.
Then, like with many things of that type, an explanation is that telepathy does not exist, but results from wishful thinking and lack of sense of rigour. Here the explanation is prestidigitation. Some parapsychological phenomena have been explained(away) in this manner, and telepathy might be one of them.
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> Notice that Cosmin has been invited to demonstrate his telepathic powers several times and even to propose a test of it himself. But after saying it is common and easy, he has demurred to provide any test.