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John Clark

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Jul 30, 2020, 9:57:19 AM7/30/20
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Trump just Tweeted:

"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"

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Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 


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Alan Grayson

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Strong evidence? What is it? Which democrat politicians are encouraging looting? I can't recall a single one advocating that. Not one! AG
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Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're talking 95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. It's a rehash of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," circa 1965 Watts and Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan and provocateur, Rep Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When Orange Man says things like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just because we all were born upon a night, it wasn't last night. Not standing up to people (say, DiBlasio) arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, speaks intent, even, repeated across every democratic party zone (Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying about intent was also seen 60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights marches and integration, Favus, George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd from West Virginia. If you need me to, I can look up some dem statements endorsing or sympathizing with rioters, looters, arsonists, and now terrorists (Smells like Weatherman Faction SDS, Symbionese Liberation Army revived, also Black Panthers). I do wonder what Bruno will think when we start breaking apart? Will he have expected this, from such "crazy Ami's," or will it be a shock? Interesting, huh?

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Alan Grayson

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You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic politician advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind reader, by referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that represents the BLM. Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM movement. You want to do a broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. There are always fringe elements that want violence, but it's people like you who buy Trump's BS and support depriving the vast majority of Americans their First Amendment rights, as what happened in Lafayette Square a few weeks ago. It was patently obvious that the unmarked police were inciting violence. I saw it as it was happening! If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in NYC to curtail violence, he should be called out for it. But this isn't what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that there would be less violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a police reform bill, but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does Trump endorse it. AG
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On 7/30/2020 11:33 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots.

So you've swallowed a lot of Trump's conspiracy theory lies. 

Brent

What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 


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Trump just Tweeted:

"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
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Lawrence Crowell

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Jul 30, 2020, 4:34:43 PM7/30/20
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There is no strong evidence of voter fraud with mail-in ballots. There can be a few shenanigans, such as somebody marking a ballot for an older family member and so forth. There is no evidence of widespread fraud. 

The Democrats have not been encouraging rioting and looting. In Portland the protests were generally peaceful until t'Rump sent the BORTAC troops in and stirred up the waters and mud. In fact that may be what t'Rump wants so he can look like the law and order president. It might also be a rehearsal for a power-grab if t'Rump loses the election.

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Its simply that life is a mixed thing, and this isn't the 20th century that we were expecting. All I have to note is that democrat mayors and governors are letting their cities burn, and doing mostly nothing. It's not a matter of opinion when we can see what is going on. The only one's censoring to focus on police reaction after BLMTifa provocation, are the dem media loyalists. You can kind of surf Twitter land to get the un-cut version provided. Like Pat Moynihan once said, "we all have a right to our own opinion, but we don't have a right to our own facts."  Are there riots, arson, and mayhem, yes or no? Is this violence being committed by racist republicans or by 'mostly peaceful' democrats? Seemingly, the later, not the former. 


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Its happening everywhere the democrats run the center cities, everywhere. Not just Chicago, or Detroit, but everywhere the dem klan rules. Team dem is good with fire and smoke, and perhaps unless your are involved with the DNC Planning Committee (?) the dems at governor and city level are doing what appeal to the democrat voter. 
Alinsky's Rule 6
Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. "If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic."

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage."

Orange Man didn't fall for the DNC Kent State/Jackson State replay of May 1970. Dude's quite calculating indeed!

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No the "mostly peaceful protest ," thing is a deliberate lie, unless my peepers are tricking me? It's a mantra by the DNC to sell the idea that the reason a court building is burned is because of Trump's "kidnappers," DNC just tried this one on monday, after the July 25 weekend riots. Now arson was all the rage clear back in May, and there were no troops then. I say, selfishly speaking, keep it up, because it is driving a sizable fraction of the dem voting base away from the Kamala-Biden ticket, (He'll resign of course!) if He won (wink wink). 


Lawrence Crowell

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What is the difference between a Republican and a Democrat elected to office? Ans: The velocity with which their knees hit the floor when confronted by their campaign donors. Political campaigns are financed by banks, financial institutions, corporations and the billionaires. They split their donations, that way no matter who wins they have leverage. Generally when things are going well they support the Reps more with some expectation of tax cuts and more dividends. When the economy goes into the tank they tend to support the Dems more because they are more willing to pull the Keynesian levers and knobs to cover their butts. 

In a communist society the government owns the corporations, and in a capitalist society the corporations own the government. I tail to see why people are so passionate about this crap. It is all just made up shit meant to control people for the benefit of a very few.

The political brain is a bad brain, and it comes in two bad forms. The most common are idiots who actually believes this nonsense. The second are the sociopaths who are the manipulators and connivers who make this crap work.

I presume this stuff about the demonstrations and against dem mayors is the feces coming out of Faux News. 

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I mean the material is available elsewhere besides dear old fox. No cutaways by the dem-with-byline-media....the full thing Lawrence. On America being a bribe-ocracy, no doubt (oligarch, plutocracy etc), but it is now the funders of the democrats (corporation$) that have thrown-in with their employees on the streets. I used to be a lifelong democrat, so I am not so opposed to the Keynesian balance,and am not addicted to "rugged capitalism," whatever that is? However, the oligarchs are now numerically, funding the dems. Speaking of Fox, just last week one of the Murdoch boys just pledged 1.3 mil to the Biden campaign. 

Beyond the cutting of pies, the human species should be focusing on (not mere computing) but science and engineering projects to vastly expand the economy, AND save all our butts. We see the soviet socialism of Maduro and Castro and it simply causes things to go to shit, because there's no economic vitality. Even China has narfed the garthox without US cash-and I am an economic nationalist (for now) because it seems to work best for the middle class-not the billionaires. 

On the Com v Cap thing, China has both and all owned by the party. What is more deadly seems to be Soviet Socialism, because whether, its Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Daddy Kim, we get an abundance of massacres. Now we had this with US slavery and the Belgian Congo massacres, but this was strictly pre-20th century. So, for a better world, I'll go with technology and the ability to make money from it-even tho its "unfair."

For an an on-coming, Robots took our Jobs future, I'd consider funding every soul on earth, by expanding lunar mining and also try to expand bio-nanotechnology ( I haven't invested because too middle class economically).  


Alan Grayson

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If the republican Senate can't illegalize choke holds, maybe it's time to burn down a few federal courts to send a message. AG
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On 7/30/2020 3:33 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Its simply that life is a mixed thing, and this isn't the 20th century that we were expecting. All I have to note is that democrat mayors and governors are letting their cities burn, and doing mostly nothing. It's not a matter of opinion when we can see what is going on.

You only see what the TV networks find worth covering.  They don't cover the fact that all of the blocks except the on the federal building is on, have nothing happening.  When the local Portland TV station did some random man-on-the-street interviews and asked them about how the protests were affecting the city, they all said something like, it's not affecting anything I do or know about...it's just couple of square blocks.


The only one's censoring to focus on police reaction after BLMTifa provocation, are the dem media loyalists. You can kind of surf Twitter land to get the un-cut version provided. Like Pat Moynihan once said, "we all have a right to our own opinion, but we don't have a right to our own facts."  Are there riots, arson, and mayhem, yes or no?

There are no riots.  There has been some arson, since the fed troops showed.  Has there been mayhem...yes, committed by said troops clubbing, shooting, and gassing peaceful protesters executing their Constitutional right to assembly and to petition their government.


Is this violence being committed by racist republicans or by 'mostly peaceful' democrats? Seemingly, the later, not the former.

It's committed by a ragtag army of border patrol and federal protection cops, who wear not identification.

Brent

John Clark

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:34 PM Mr. Spudboy via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I have to note is that democrat mayors and governors are letting their cities burn, and doing mostly nothing. [...] Are there riots, arson, and mayhem, yes or no?
 
Mr. Spudboy, you need to keep things in perspective. All the "riots arson and mayhem" from all the "democrat mayors and governors letting their cities burn" produced a grand total of 2 deaths, meanwhile Trump's astoundingly incompetent response to the COVID-19 pandemic has so far killed 155,285 Americans and the numbers are growing fast; yesterday alone 1,465 died. As of today you'd need 77,643 more riots to equal the virus death toll, by tomorrow you'd need more. In comparison yesterday in Germany only 4 died of the virus and only 9,221 during the entire pandemic.

If you want to talk money all the "riots arson and mayhem" combined produced 500 million dollars in property damage, and that's just a rounding error on the scale of the nation's Gross Domestic Product, But Trump's bungling of the pandemic caused the GDP to decline by 34.3% or 2.15 million million dollars, you'd need 4,300 more riots to equal it. By comparison Germany's GDP declined by 10.1%, Australia's GDP declined by 0.3%, and China's GDP increased by 3.2%. You know what, I'm starting to think Trump may not be making America great again.

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smitra

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On 30-07-2020 15:56, John Clark wrote:
> TRUMP JUST TWEETED:
>
> "_With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good),
> 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It
> will be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until
> people can properly, securely and safely vote???_"
>
> Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so
>
> John K Clark

Trump knows that he doesn't have the authority to do this, so his real
plan must be something different. I suspect that what he really aims at
is for Republican governors to decide that a popular vote cannot be held
due to the pandemic and because in their opinion mail-in vote is
unreliable, that the legislature will instead vote on who wins the
State. Many states where Biden is way ahead have a Republican governor
and a Republican Legislature, as well as courts dominated by
conservative judges.

Conservative judges tend to set the bar very high for overturning a
decision that was arrived at using constitutionally correct procedures.
In the end the SCOTUS may end up upholding an election result based on
Republican Legislatures having voted for Trump when the population at
large supported Biden.

Saibal

John Clark

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On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 5:56 AM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:

> Trump knows that he doesn't have the authority to do this

It's well known that Trump is a big fan of totalitarians and I think he believes what Mao Zedong believed, that authority comes from the barrel of a gun, he's already sent federal storm troopers into the hearts of American cities as practice for the big day in November.

John K Clark

Bruno Marchal

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Trump knows that he has not the authority to change the date of the elections, but he is just telling us that he will contest the result of the election (in case Biden win), and that might work, when you see the senate republicans acquitting him by dismissing the first hand witnessing (after compiling that up to that moment it was only second-hand witnessing).

I am afraid that the Republican Senators (minus Mitt Romney) have already made Trump into a dictator. He has no reason to listen more to the election result that to the coronavirus death statistics.

I hope we will be able to see the Trump’s tax return before the election. If democracy survives, it would be nice to make the release of the taw return mandatory to be eligible. Also, an impeached president should not be eligible at all. I think.

Bruno

Bruno Marchal

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Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected.

?

All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on the fire”.
The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite worrisome. Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all leaders of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.




There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots.

They should use e-mails. That is the safer, both for the health of people, and it is easier to make most people voting, and voting only once. I am not sure why they don’t do that.




What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 

I agree that the left is blind on “islamism” coming from the Middle East, which is not islam, but comes directly from the German nazi propaganda, and the fact the Europeans and Americans after the WW II have subtracted Al Husseini and the Muslim Brotherhood from the Nuremberg trial. 
The conflict in the Middle-East is a conflict agains nazis, not again Islam nor again Arabs. Here the left is very often blind, and more homophobia, antisemite, etc,  than the right. I agree that Trumps politics is better (for the poor) than the left one. But the way Trump implement it makes it hard for the latinos and the black, and the consumer of medications, to get any of the benefits, and Trump seems to work hard to add chaos and to generate a civil war, if only to distract us from the rest, and keep his (authoritarian) power. Trump is both a con artist and a pervert narcissist. He is, Imo, extremely dangerous. He is shifting the left-right debate into an extremist-moderate fight. 

Bruno




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Trump just Tweeted:

"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
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Choke holds out are ok with me, now will the local dems cease and desist crime, murder & arson in their zones? Look to Lighfoot as an eample.


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Yeah, I am sure the competent hand of Joe Biden will solve everything...   You haven't cited what Germany and Australia are doing differently than the US either. Can you please list what these lands are doing so well?  


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No they haven't Bruno. Dems are closed mouthed regarding riots looting arson. It is all happening in their cities, it it tolerated, at least, if not endorsed. 

All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on the fire”.
The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite worrisome. Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all leaders of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.



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Russell Standish

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On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:42:28PM +0000, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
> Yeah, I am sure the competent hand of Joe Biden will solve everything... You
> haven't cited what Germany and Australia are doing differently than the US
> either. Can you please list what these lands are doing so well?

I think in Australia's case, our "Trump mini-me" government finally
grew a brain and listened to the health experts, after their total
mishandling of the bushfire debacle over summer.

It also helps that we're a little more likely accept restrictions for
the sake of the common good than our American friends. Not as much as
some Asian cultures, though.

And finally, being an "island continent" makes it easier to shut our
borders and control who comes into the country.

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I won't continue discussing politics with a right wing retard. If republicans in the Senate want to take the weekend off without dealing with the dire issues at hand, they deserve to see their courts burn. AG
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On 31 Jul 2020, at 21:50, spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

No they haven't Bruno. Dems are closed mouthed regarding riots looting arson. It is all happening in their cities, it it tolerated, at least, if not endorsed. 

Really? That contradicts my information. If you have a link to some paper or videos assessing what you say, I would be pleased.

What I see is that the democrats and most (non Trumpian) republicans sids with the peaceful protesters. All states condemned the looters, but they are unavoidable in any big manifestation, also in my country, and even more in France. 

My feeling is that those looters are pro-Trump, or pro-chaos, and they try to delegitimised, like the antiracists (which are racists of course), the" black live matter” movement, by looting and infiltrating them.

Concerning Portland, the “police” has clearly systematically threatened and egressed the peaceful people, as we can see on many videos, from different angles, and at different places. 

Trump has given 8 recent phones by Putin, and he is clearly trying to demolish the (old) American democracy by the same technic used by Putin to kill the birth of democracy in Russia. That is real bad new for Americans, but also for Russians and for all democracies in the world.

Everyone sees what Trump is doing. The problem is the international bandits, who use Trump to protect themselves, and fix people realise how powerful they are. If Trump and Barr are not removed before November, he will “win” the election, by cheating of course, like he did, as this is rather clear from Mueller reports if not by what Trump already said himself during its 2016 campaign.

Bruno


Lawrence Crowell

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At a certain point people display how their minds have, as Robert Burns put it, gone "gang oft aglay." Political diatribes, with claims of sources not revealed, and defense of questionable science and health theory, leave me no option but to drop such a person from communication. I don't go there, even in opposition to these types of people.

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Russell, your fellow academics tell us different, often conflicting things, regarding the Wuhan flu, regarding Climate? For example, the WHO first indicated that masking won't deter the Wuhan flu, then it became apparent, that it appeared to reduce transmissions of the virus. When the experts fail us, what do you want Joe Sixpack to do (you do have joe sixpack in Aus don't you)? 

When you were having the Big Fire, I was thinking, well, there was a big study if the IEA is Oct 1, 2019 that indicated there was available, some 18 times the 2018 global production of all kinds of energy electrical & motive, in ocean water "winds," so why not use this to desalinate the ocean water (wind power) push it to the Aus brush and treelands, and spritz the waters to prevent the firestorms? We have same issue in Cali and the cheapest solution was always clear cutting patches of brush and forest, thus, new fires were prevented. The greens in Cali have avoided this for over 20 years and so far, they now have firestorms, once of twice per year. If hydro works it works, and if it doesn't it doesn't. The best results for hydro have been, hydro to make the affected cells permeable, use zinc to get it into the cells because the zinc prevents the virus from propagating, and zythromax, to fight any secondary bacterial opportunistic inventions, If it doesn't work, whether Orange Man throws a tantrum, nobody should care. If he is accurate, same thing. 


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Actually Alan, your comment proves what a study last year indicated, that dedicated ideologists (they measured libs) are immensely intolerant of any opposing pov, ao I kind of expected this because it goes against the holy "narrative." You want to pretend, Team dem is magically virtuous? Indeed, plow on ahead.  


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One chunk of assertions at a a time, Bruno, for you are dealing with a mere mortal, and a working one, this night. On the love-affair that many Muslims have with the old nazis, yeah, they liked the guy as we both know. It was a selling point by the 3rd Reich against the British and French ruling Iraq, Syria, Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia (Mussolini held Libya), and they both worked it as successful propaganda.
"No more Moussier, No more Mister,
In heaven Allah
On earth, Hitler."

Back to The orange man....

We have most of the billionaires funding the democrats for decades, do you not wonder if these people do not ask for something in return? If you need a list of each side funding whom, please consider looking at the website OpenSecrets.org, it appears to be non-partisan, but who knows. Follow the money, Professor. 
 


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GFY.
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Alan, just go ahead, and block me, for Christ's sake. You dish it out but can't take it, like the study indicated. Your peeps burn the streets and spread corona but that is ok? Meh! and Bye.


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On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 09:16, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:42:28PM +0000, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
> Yeah, I am sure the competent hand of Joe Biden will solve everything...   You
> haven't cited what Germany and Australia are doing differently than the US
> either. Can you please list what these lands are doing so well? 

I think in Australia's case, our "Trump mini-me" government finally
grew a brain and listened to the health experts, after their total
mishandling of the bushfire debacle over summer.

It also helps that we're a little more likely accept restrictions for
the sake of the common good than our American friends. Not as much as
some Asian cultures, though.

And finally, being an "island continent" makes it easier to shut our
borders and control who comes into the country.

I think we started congratulating ourselves too early. As you know, things are not so great in Victoria.
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On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 11:16:00AM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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> I think we started congratulating ourselves too early. As you know, things are
> not so great in Victoria.

Indeed, we're not out of the woods yet.

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> On 2 Aug 2020, at 05:27, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:
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> On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 11:16:00AM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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>> I think we started congratulating ourselves too early. As you know, things are
>> not so great in Victoria.
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> Indeed, we're not out of the woods yet.

No one is. That virus is a serious crap. And the longer we take to defeat it makes higher the probability that he evolves.
The “human factor” clearly does not help here.

Bruno


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