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> I am curious about what Americans in this list think about this:
Well assuming the accuracy of the graph, I would factor in the money spent on emergency room visits, which since the 1980's those who are deemed unable to pay for treatment medical bills are written off.
Your Rights in the Emergency Room (webmd.com)
Also, I wonder whether one factors in population size of various nations, including legal immigrants and illegal.
As of today for example, the governor of California signed in a new law mandating medical care for undocumented migrants.
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We'll get to see how this unfolds?
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The graph begins to make a little more sense if one replaces the term "healthcare" with a more reality-representing term: "sickcare".Healthy people don't need to spend a lot of money on their health.This doesn't explain it all, but the relationship begins to become more intuitive when viewed this way: an unhealthy (but wealthy enough to spend a lot of money) population will spend more on sickcare, and will have worse health outcomes than healthier populations.The US is one of the most obese nations on this chart. I recall reading some statistic that said if we returned to 1975 obesity levels we could reduce government health spending by 400 billion annually.Of course obesity is just one aspect of many that might lead to poor health and shorter life expectancy in the US. (Insufficient preventative care, subsidized cheap and unhealthy foods, high stress jobs with little vacation, the opioid epidemic, prevalence of dysfunctional schools, etc.)
And all this is before exploring any of the many reasons we pay high costs for the sickcare we get (rationing of licensed doctors and treatment facilities, prohibitions on reimporting cheaply exported drugs, administrative and insurance overheads, lack of price transparency, emergency rooms as default care facilities for those who can't afford doctor appointments, medical malpractice insurance and high rates of lawsuits, multi-billion dollar cost of new drug development, etc.)A lot has to be fixed. Unfortunately, the root of the problem may stem from a misalignment of objectives. In the same way private prisons work to incarcerate more prisoners, for-profit sickcare is discouraged from working towards a healthier population (which doesn't need as much of their services). If we could design a reward system where the decision makers in power were rewarded based on the health and well-being of the population as a whole, I think things would look very different.
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If I take my money and move to Spain I'll liver forever.
BrentOn 7/14/2022 5:12 AM, Telmo wrote:I am curious about what Americans in this list think about this:Telmo
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