New user case: For new agents dereferencing Wikidata URLs also update WIkidata so the Europeana link will be available in Wikipedia

[Magnus Sälgö]

Question: Where can we add new user cases?

My understanding from MET-2410 is that you can dereference a Wikidata URL and create an agent

Next step I guess is that you if an Agent doesnt exist also create new Europeana Agents based on the Wikidata data

Suggestion: When creating new Europeana agenst based on Wikidata URLs also update Wikidata Property 7704 -->
that today we have 7 Wikipedias that reads Europeana and adds a link to Europeana if the Wikidata Europeana property 7704 exist

• the following seven language versions has included Europeana in a template that is included in most articles at the end of the page
• bgwiki Шаблон:Нормативен контрол --> 4378 articles
• cawiki Plantilla:Autoritat --> 15807 articles
• eswiki Plantilla:Control de autoridades --> 34 842 articles
• euwiki Txantiloi:Autoritate kontrola --> 52 articles
• itwiki Template:Controllo di autorità --> 37 373 articles
• nowiki Mal:Autoritetsdata --> 10 972 articles
• ruwiki Шаблон:Внешние ссылки --> > 19000 articles
• we also discuss adding this ti the Swedish wikipedia the last 2 years ;-) as yiu maybe know the en:Wikipedia voted to delete it so you never know what will happen.... the onnly thing we can do is to create a good infrastructure....
  
  
• we also have in Wikicommons a template Wikidata Infobox that displays Europeana Agent with a link if Wikidata has P7704 set below example Picasso I guess this template is available on more than 2 000 000 pages I have no good tool measure on what pages this template is available and we have the Europeana property 7704 set in the Wikidata

Please let us know

1. Is this the correct place to suggest new user cases
2. Where we can track the progress
3. If you need support testing, implementing
   

Regards
Magnus Sälgö
Stockholm, Sweden
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[Antoine Isaac]

Dear Magnus,

Thanks for this. We're trying to find a more suitable space for tracking this.
I am going to come back to you in a personal email!

Best,

Antoine

On 21/03/2020 12:19, Magnus Sälgö wrote:
> *Question:* Where can we add new *user cases*?
>
> *My understanding *from MET-2410 <https://europeana.atlassian.net/browse/MET-2410> is that you can dereference a Wikidata URL and create an agent
>
> *Next step* I guess is that you if an Agent doesnt exist also create new Europeana Agents based on the Wikidata data
>
> *Suggestion:* When creating new Europeana agenst based on Wikidata URLs also update Wikidata Property 7704 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7704> -->
> that today we have 7 Wikipedias that reads Europeana and adds a link to Europeana if the Wikidata Europeana property 7704 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7704> exist
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> * the following *seven language* versions has included Europeana in a template that is included in most articles at the end of the page
> + bgwikiШаблон:Нормативен контрол <https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB>-->4378 articles <https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:Europeana>
> + cawiki Plantilla:Autoritat <https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Autoritat> --> 15807 articles <https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Articles_amb_identificador_Europeana>
> + eswiki Plantilla:Control de autoridades <https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Control_de_autoridades> --> 34 842 articles <https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor%C3%ADa:Wikipedia:Art%C3%ADculos_con_identificadores_Europeana>
> + euwiki Txantiloi:Autoritate kontrola <https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Txantiloi:Autoritate_kontrola> --> 52 articles <https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Wikipedia:Europeana_identifikatzailea_duten_artikuluak>
> + itwiki Template:Controllo di autorità <https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Control_de_autoridades> --> 37 373 articles <https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Voci_con_codice_Europeana>
> + nowiki Mal:Autoritetsdata <https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal:Autoritetsdata> --> 10 972 articles <https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Artikler_med_autoritetsdatalenker_for_P7704_fra_Wikidata>
> + ruwiki Шаблон:Внешние ссылки <https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8C:External_links> --> > 19000 articles <http://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=14967476>
> + we also discuss adding this ti the Swedish wikipedia the last 2 years ;-) as yiu maybe know the en:Wikipedia voted to delete it so you never know what will happen.... the onnly thing we can do is to create a good infrastructure....
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> o we also have in Wikicommons a template Wikidata Infobox that displays Europeana Agent with a link if Wikidata has P7704 set below example Picasso <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pablo_Picasso> I guess this template is available on more than 2 000 000 pages I have no good tool measure on what pages this template is available and we have the Europeana property 7704 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7704> set in the Wikidata
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> <https://phab.wmfusercontent.org/file/data/cydehiknam6g4n33mwdu/PHID-FILE-d6w3apieavrwpypfqasw/image.png>
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> Please let us know
>
> 1. Is this the correct place to suggest new user cases
> 2. Where we can track the progress
> 3. If you need support testing, implementing

>
> Regards
> Magnus Sälgö
> Stockholm, Sweden

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[Magnus Sälgö]

Looks like WMSE David Haskiya is setting up something see T249326 "Europeana Generic services proposal, short write-up" he is very vague saying

WMSE could contribute with (hint: something roundtrippy)

My understanding is David is hired by WMSE for design things like integrations like this. I will wait on what he deliver.... before doing something more

I guess the interest from Wikipedia community will be better when we trust the quality of Europeana and when you have better metadata so we can 
build more interesting integrations 
  

Best Regards

Magnus Sälgö
Stockholm, Sweden
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