Is 啝 childless or weeping.

[Jim Breen]

Just a comment on an interesting point that came up from a
correspondent about the English meanings in the Kanjidic entry for 啝.

Kanjidic had "follow; childless" as the meanings. These plainly came
from the Spahn & Hadamitzky "The Kanji Dictionary" - Nelson and
Halpern don't include that rather obscure kanji. Most likely Mark and
Wolfgang got it from Morohashi, which has "小兒がなく", but which "なく"? It
seems they assumed it was 無く. 広辞苑 OTOH has "子どもが泣く". I've changed the
Kanjidic entry.

Cheers

Jim

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Jim Breen
Adjunct Snr Research Fellow, Japanese Studies Centre, Monash University
http://www.jimbreen.org/
http://nihongo.monash.edu/

[Ben Bullock]

On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 14:04, Jim Breen <jimb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just a comment on an interesting point that came up from a
correspondent about the English meanings in the Kanjidic entry for 啝.

Kanjidic had "follow; childless" as the meanings. These plainly came
from the Spahn & Hadamitzky "The Kanji Dictionary" - Nelson and
Halpern don't include that rather obscure kanji. Most likely Mark and
Wolfgang got it from Morohashi, which has "小兒がなく", but which "なく"? It
seems they assumed it was 無く. 広辞苑 OTOH has "子どもが泣く". I've changed the
Kanjidic entry.

がなく seems to mean "cry" in a dictionary definition, if it was to mean childless it would be 子供がいない I think. こどもがなく seems to be a continuative and would need something else after it like こどもがなく、悲しい or something like that.