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adria...@gmail.com

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Sep 2, 2025, 1:26:51 PMSep 2
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Hello, 

 Starting from the August release I started receiving the following error during CCDA validation for B1, Sample 1. See the error below: 

Result DescriptionThe scenario requires the submitted document type to be either a Continuity of Care Document, or a Referral Note, but the submitted C-CDA does not contain the relevant template Ids.

I checked my CCDA and it does contains the template for Continuity of Care Document (2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.2). I'm putting below the first 8 lined of my CCDA. Perhaps you can point me to what I'm doing wrong?

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<ClinicalDocument xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:sdtc="urn:hl7-org:sdtc" xsi:schemaLocation="urn:hl7-org:v3 http://xreg2.nist.gov:8080/hitspValidation/schema/cdar2c32/infrastructure/cda/C32_CDA.xsd" xmlns="urn:hl7-org:v3">
  <realmCode code="US" />
  <typeId root="2.16.840.1.113883.1.3" extension="POCD_HD000040" />
  <templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1" extension="2015-08-01" />
  <templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1" />
  <templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.2" extension="2015-08-01" />
  <templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.2" />

Thank you in advance
Adrian

Vibin Guevara

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Sep 2, 2025, 2:17:55 PMSep 2
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Im also getting this error for the happy kid patient. Not sure why this is coming. Haven't seen it before. 

Vibin Guevara

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Sep 2, 2025, 9:38:50 PMSep 2
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Do we have any update on this issue? - looks like happening to me only from yesterday. Below is my XML code.

I see in the release notes that the US realm header is updated. When I update   <templateId extension="2015-08-01" root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1"/> to   <templateId extension="2023-05-01" root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1"/> I'm still getting the error

<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="CDA_EHR.xsl"?><ClinicalDocument xmlns="urn:hl7-org:v3" xmlns:sdtc="urn:hl7-org:sdtc" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="urn:hl7-org:v3 infrastructure/cda/CDA_SDTC.xsd">
    <realmCode code="US"/>
    <typeId extension="POCD_HD000040" root="2.16.840.1.113883.1.3"/>
    <templateId extension="2015-08-01" root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1"/>
    <templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1"/>
    <templateId extension="2015-08-01" root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.2"/>
    <templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.2"/>

Nagesh Bashyam

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Sep 3, 2025, 8:03:40 AMSep 3
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Both the old one and the new one are expected to be present so that it is backwards compatible.

 

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Nagesh Bashyam

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Sep 3, 2025, 8:23:15 AMSep 3
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For USCDIv3 , you need to also include the updated Template Ids for the US RealmHeader.

 

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Sep 3, 2025, 8:23:55 AMSep 3
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For USCDIv3 , you need to also include the updated Template Ids for the US RealmHeader.

 

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Vibin Guevara

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Sep 4, 2025, 7:49:54 AMSep 4
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Thank you for helping me out. I added the 2023-05-01 for US realm template ID 2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1 in addition to 2015-08-01 and that worked

Arpita Patel

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Sep 4, 2025, 7:50:12 AMSep 4
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Hello,

I am getting the same error even though both the US Realm and Referral template ids are present.
And this is a very recent error, it was not coming up earlier.


Result DescriptionThe scenario requires the submitted document type to be either a Continuity of Care Document, or a Referral Note, but the submitted C-CDA does not contain the relevant template Ids.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<ClinicalDocument xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns="urn:hl7-org:v3" xsi:schemaLocation="urn:hl7-org:v3 infrastructure/cda/CDA_SDTC.xsd">
  <realmCode code="US"/>

  <typeId extension="POCD_HD000040" root="2.16.840.1.113883.1.3"/>
<!-- US Realm Header ID-->

<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1" extension="2015-08-01"/>
<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1"/>
<!-- Referral Note (V2) template ID -->
<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.14" extension="2015-08-01"/>
<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.14"/>
<!-- Globally unique identifier for the document  -->
<id extension="ToC_13" root="2.16.840.1.113883.19.5.99999.1"/>
<code code="57133-1" displayName="Referral Note" codeSystem="2.16.840.1.113883.6.1" codeSystemName="LOINC"/>
  <title>Referral Note</title>
  <effectiveTime value="20250829173252-0400"/>
  <confidentialityCode codeSystem="2.16.840.1.113883.5.25" codeSystemName="ConfidentialityCode"/>
  <languageCode code="en-US"/>
  <recordTarget>

Nagesh Bashyam

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Sep 4, 2025, 7:55:02 AMSep 4
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For USCDIv3, you have to incldue the US Realm Header template with the right extension and include the older templates that you were including before.

 

Arpita Patel

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Sep 4, 2025, 8:46:58 AMSep 4
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Thank you!
After adding the template id with a new extension with older templates the issue is resolved.

<realmCode code="US"/>
  <typeId extension="POCD_HD000040" root="2.16.840.1.113883.1.3"/>
<!-- US Realm Header ID-->
<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1" extension="2023-05-01"/>
<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1"/>

<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1" extension="2015-08-01"/>
<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.1"/>
<!-- Referral Note (V2) template ID -->
<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.14" extension="2015-08-01"/>
<templateId root="2.16.840.1.113883.10.20.22.1.14"/>
<!-- Globally unique identifier for the document  -->
<id extension="ToC_13" root="2.16.840.1.113883.19.5.99999.1"/>
<code code="57133-1" displayName="Referral Note" codeSystem="2.16.840.1.113883.6.1" codeSystemName="LOINC"/>
  <title>Referral Note</title>
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Mat Davis

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Sep 4, 2025, 4:43:47 PMSep 4
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Hi Dragon, thanks for the guidance provided above.

Thanks to Arpita and Vibin above as well for following up and posting examples.

Source of Truth For The Template ID Change
  • Is there any link at all that I can reference for this change outside of the SITE 4 Release Notes?
  • Is there any link at all that I can reference for the expected value?

  • I feel like we're 1 step behind when it comes to these latest changes and exact guidance on how to meet them.
  • I think Dragon has been doing great addressing the multiple emails that have been coming in but maybe including links and additional info before hand could help
  • The emails that mention a new deployment is planned or currently in progress have been great

Thanks - Mat

Mat Davis

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Sep 4, 2025, 5:18:24 PMSep 4
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Links and Documentation For US Realm Header Extension Validation



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