FW: Duncan family
Jason Duncan
Fred, Dean, Tim, and other Group F cousins,
I received the below email from Charles Thomas who descends from my John Duncan who settled in Montgomery Co, VA, after the Rev. War. John was born about 1741, and his wife was named Elizabeth. While I’ve never seen proof, everything I’ve read said that John’s wife was Elizabeth Holtzclaw. However, Charles makes a compelling argument that his wife might be Elizabeth Triplett. I won’t rewrite his reasons for thinking so since they’re listed below along with the rest of our email exchange, but I was wondering if anyone had seen information about a John Duncan who married Elizabeth Triplett. Fred, maybe this will lead us to the Blanchflower Duncan who was in Granville Co. I’m curious to hear everyone else’s thoughts.
Jason Duncan
From: Charles Thomas <charl...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 12:44 AM
To: Jason Duncan <ja...@webjmd.com>
Subject: Re: Duncan family
Hi Jason,
Thank you for your reply. I'm glad to provide a synopsis of what I know.
I owe credit for finding the likely Triplett connection to an autosomal DNA cousin of mine, Ellie Hill. Off and on for several years I had read and reread pp. 267-68 of Germanna Record No. 5, by B. C. Holtsclaw, in an attempt to distinguish the various John Duncans referenced there. More recently I further began doubting that our John Duncan of Fauquier/Montgomery Co., VA, was the one married to Elizabeth Ann Holtzclaw because of a lack of autosomal DNA cousins with Holtzclaw connections. I know that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence," so I still granted the possibility that the Holtzclaw marriage was with "my" John Duncan. However, Ellie Hill whom I referenced above found online mention a couple years ago of a John Duncan who married Elizabeth "Betty" Ann/Anne Triplett.
Elizabeth Ann Triplett/John Duncan marriage under #14 Thomas Triplett:
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~janroots/triplett.txt
"Betty Anne" reference on p.115 of the follwing:
(Note that biographical details from this source regarding this Thomas Triplett seem to be at least partially interchanged with one or more other Tripletts.)
Second piece of circumstantial evidence is the fact that John Duncan who moved to Montgomery County had a son named Greenberry/Greenbury. This was the given name of a brother of Elizabeth Ann Triplett. She also had a brother named Abel. John Duncan had a grandson named Abel W. Duncan, Abel being a son of Blanch. By the way, John Duncan is likely related in some way to the Blanchflower Duncan/Dunkin father and son since the name Blanch is almost certainly short for Blanchflower. The given name of John Duncan's son Thomas Duncan could be from Elizabeth Triplett's father, Thomas Triplett.
See also (generation) number 4 in the following link:
I haven't been able to dive into the original records other than to rent a few rolls of microfilm of Fauquier County deeds. The Tripletts were primarily of Loudoun Co., VA. Perhaps there is evidence of our John Duncan somewhere in that county.
One more Duncan/Triplett possible relationship is the fact that a Francis Triplett witnessed the will of the John Duncan whose will was written in 1788 and probated in 1795 in Fauquier County. I don't know which of several Francis Tripletts this would have been. Of course, it's possible that they were merely neighbors or business associates and of no specific kinship. This does make me wonder, however, if our John Duncan could have been a son of this John Duncan.
Please let me know what you think.
Best regards,
Charles
From: Jason Duncan <ja...@webjmd.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 6:26 PM
To: 'Charles Thomas'
Subject: RE: Duncan family
Charles,
I’m sorry it’s taken me a long time to reply. I was really interested in your thoughts about John’s wife actually being Elizabeth Triplett because I had never heard that theory. I’ve known about John Duncan, Revolutionary War pensioner, for over 20 years but I don’t remember anything about a possible Triplett connection. I’d like to hear about the information you’ve found. I know there was a John Duncan who married Elizabeth Holtzclaw, but I’m not 100% sure they are the couple who arrived in Montgomery Co after the war. Maybe you’ve found the missing piece.
Jason Duncan
From: Charles Thomas <charl...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:41 AM
To: Jason Duncan <ja...@webjmd.com>
Subject: Re: Duncan family
Thank you very much for your reply, Jason. I've seen various online trees which identify Sarah's surname as Wray, but I think Reed would be much more likely.
By the way, what do you think of the possibility that John Duncan's wife was actually Elizabeth "Betty" Ann Triplett daughter of Thomas Triplett, rather than Elizabeth "Betty" Ann Holtzclaw? Another researcher brought this to my attention a few years ago, and I am 99.9% convinced that Triplett is the correct surname.
Best,
Charles
From: Jason Duncan <ja...@webjmd.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 7:18 PM
To: 'Charles Thomas'
Subject: RE: Duncan family
Hi, Charles. I’m glad you found my research useful. I’ve listed all my sources. The link is http://webjmd.com/genresearch.html, and click on “Sources” above the research group of links. Or, you can go to it here: http://webjmd.com/genrefs.pdf. Source #40 is one of my more generic references. It’s a group of 3.5” floppy disks that were sent to me when I joined the Duncan Surname Assocation back in 1996. It’s a list of transcribed files that people made from courthouse records and other sources.
I searched these files, but didn’t find anything with “proof” that Thomas’s wife was Sarah Reed. I’m attaching one file. (On my computer, the file is easier to read in WordPad than it is in Notepad.) Use the search feature to find “Sarah Reed” in the file. It appears 3 times in the file. It appears to be information from a Family Group Sheet on file at the LDS. That’s not exactly reliable information.
Since I didn’t record a date or county when I listed Sarah Reed in my book, that probably means I never saw reference to that information. That probably means it wasn’t in a courthouse record. The Family Group Sheet might be the only place I’ve seen it.
Jason Duncan
From: Charles Thomas <charl...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 12:15 AM
To: ja...@webjmd.com
Subject: Duncan family
Hello Jason,
Thank you for your book, Looking Back. Wonderful work in assembling so much research. I am a descendant of Thomas Duncan son of B-1-6. John Duncan, Sr.
One question if I may: I can't find the actual endnote for note #40 on p. B-30. Would you please let me know the source? For years I've thought that Thomas Duncan likely married Sarah Reed, but I've been unable to find a source for it. I'm interested to know the source you found.
Thanks and best regards,
Charles Thomas
Fred Duncan
Descendants of Joseph Duncan, Duncom
1 Joseph Duncan, Duncom 1712 - 1792 b: Bet. 1712 - 1717 in Probably Stafford>Prince William>Fauquier Co., Va. d: 12/13/1792 in Fauquier Co., Virginia, Fayettesville
.. +Lyddia "Ledy" (Hooe? or Duncan?) Duncan 1724 - 1797 b: Bef. 1724 d: Bef. 07/24/1797 in Fauquier Co., Va.
..... 2 [1] Lyddia Elizabeth Duncan 1741 - 1797 b: Abt. 1741 in Fauquier Co., Va. d: Aft. 1797 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
............ 3 Molly Stamps 1755 - b: 11/18/1755
................ +Simon Mathew
............ 3 Hannah Stamps 1757 - b: 05/04/1757
................ +Richard Keeble
..... *2nd Husband of [1] Lyddia Elizabeth Duncan:
......... +John O'Bannon, AmRev 1735 - 1797 b: 1735 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 04/24/1797 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
............ 3 Joseph O'Bannon 1759 - 1824 b: 12/14/1759 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 1824 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
................ +Elizabeth Bullitt Grigsby 1767 - b: 1767
............ 3 [2] Elizabeth "Betsy" O'Bannon 1762 - b: Abt. 1762 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
................ +Enoch Smith, AmRev 1753 - 1803 b: Bet. 1753 - 1755 in Prince William Co., Virginia d: 1803 in Fauquier Co., Virginia Query: Could he be related to the Enoch Smith connecting to George Harding who married Mary, widow of Blanchflower JR?)
............ *2nd Husband of [2] Elizabeth "Betsy" O'Bannon:
................ +Francis Triplett - 1826 d: Bef. 1826
............ *3rd Husband of [2] Elizabeth "Betsy" O'Bannon:
................ +William Grigsby
............ 3 James O'Bannon, Sr. 1764 - 1850 b: 1764 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 05/1850 in Henry Co., Kentucky
................ +Lucy Neville O'Bannon 1784 - 1874 b: 1784 d: 1874
............ 3 Jemima O'Bannon 1767 - 1836 b: 1767 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 11/30/1836
................ +Archibald Johnston 1767 - b: Abt. 1767
............ 3 Isham O'Bannon, Capt. 1769 - 1845 b: 04/09/1769 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 03/01/1845
................ +Mary "Polly" Winn 1781 - 1813 b: 10/22/1781 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Bef. 1813
............ 3 Elias O'Bannon 1771 - 1828 b: 10/1771 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 07/03/1828 in Kentucky--land of John O'Bannon's will
................ +Elizabeth Grigsby
............ 3 William O'Bannon 1773 - b: 1773
............ 3 John A. O'Bannon 1773 - 1816 b: 02/1773 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Abt. 1816
................ +Fanny O'Bannon 1787 - 1840 b: 1787 d: 04/04/1840
..... 2 Mary Duncan 1744 - 1792 b: 1744 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 02/13/1792 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
......... +James Wright, Capt., AmRev 1738 - 1812 b: 1738 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 1812 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
............ 3 Elizabeth "Betsy" Wright 1762 - 1828 b: 02/01/1762 in Lancaster Co., Va? d: 02/28/1828 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
................ +John Thomas James 1746 - 1801 b: Abt. 1746 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 1801 in Bealton, Virginia
..... 2 Rosamond "Rose" Duncan 1745 - 1796 b: 1745 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Bef. 09/1796 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky
......... +John M. Withers 1744 - 1827 b: Abt. 1744 in Fauquier Co., Va. d: 1827 in Lincoln Co., Ky
............ 3 James Withers 1771 - 1849 b: 07/11/1771 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 11/22/1849 in Standford, Lincoln Co., Kentucky
................ +Frances Morgan 1771 - b: 1771 in FauquierCo., Virginia
............ 3 Cynthia Withers 1772 - 1849 b: 1772 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 12/30/1849 in Greenhaven, Oldham Co., Kentucky
................ +Moses Duncan 1766 - 1845 b: 1766 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 08/05/1845 in Greenhaven, Oldham Co., Kentucky
............ 3 Sophia Withers 1774 - 1827 b: Abt. 1774 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Bef. 1827
................ +Mr Elgin
............ 3 John M. "White Tooth" Withers, Jr. 1775 - 1791 b: 03/16/1775 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 06/09/1791 in Standford, Lincoln Co., Kentucky
................ +Sarah Morgan 1776 - b: 1776
............ 3 Lydia Withers 1776 - 1827 b: Abt. 1776 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Aft. 1827
................ +Mr O'Bannon
............ 3 William Withers 1776 - 1827 b: Abt. 1776 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Bef. 1827
............ 3 Garland Withers 1780 - 1835 b: Abt. 1780 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 1835 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky
................ +Sarah Morrison 1820 - b: Bef. 1820
............ 3 Enoch D. Withers 1784 - 1822 b: Abt. 1784 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 1822 in Garrard Co., Kentucky
................ +Lucinda Smith 1791 - b: 1791 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
..... 2 Joseph Duncan, Jr. 1746 - 1818 b: 1746 d: Bet. 1818 - 1822 in Harrison Co., Kentucky
......... +Catherine "Caty" O'Bannon 1748 - 1811 b: Abt. 1748 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 03/30/1811 in Harrison Co., Kentucky
............ 3 Archibald Duncan, AmRev 1763 - 1839 b: 1763 in Bute Co., North Carolina d: 11/13/1839 in Harrison Co., Kentucky
................ +Hannah Williams 1776 - 1843 b: 1776 d: Aft. 1843
............ 3 Washington Duncan 1765 - 1835 b: Abt. 1765 d: 1835
................ +Mary (?) Duncan
............ 3 James Duncan 1767 - b: Abt. 1767
............ 3 Nancy Duncan 1769 - b: Abt. 1769
................ +Samuel Harris
............ 3 Charlotte Duncan 1771 - 1850 b: 1771 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Aft. 1850
................ +John Parker 1766 - 1836 b: Abt. 1766 d: Aft. 1836 in Anderson Co., Kentucky, prob
............ 3 Matilda Duncan 1779 - 1850 b: 1779 d: Abt. 1850 in Henderson Co., Kentucky
................ +Claiborne Collier 1780 - b: Abt. 1780 in Charlotte Co., Virginia
............ 3 Lydia Duncan 1763 - b: Aft. 1763
................ +John Mizner, Sr. 1758 - 1821 b: Abt. 1758 in Virginia? d: 1821
............ 3 Susanna Duncan
................ +Daniel Whitely
..... 2 Jemima "Myma" Duncan 1748 - 1818 b: 1748 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Abt. 1818
......... +John Mauzy, Am. Rev. 1747 - 1802 b: 1747 in Fauquier Co., Va. d: 03/03/1802 in Lincoln Co., Ky
............ 3 Lydia Mauzy 1769 - 1825 b: 1769 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Bef. 1825 in Pulaski Co., Kentucky
................ +Joseph Withers 1759 - b: 06/22/1759 in Virginia
............ 3 Lyons Mauzy 1766 - b: Aft. 1766
............ 3 Susannah Mauzy 1785 - 1860 b: Abt. 1785 in Virginia d: 1860 in Rockbridge, Willisburg, Washington Co., Ky
................ +William Porter Scruggs 1782 - 1858 b: 01/24/1782 in Cumberland Co., Va. d: 01/01/1858 in Breckenridge, Willisburg, Washington Co., Ky
............ 3 Jemima Mauzy 1766 - b: Aft. 1766
................ +Joshua Darnell
............ 3 Rhoda Mauzy 1766 - 1860 b: Bet. 1766 - 1787 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Bef. 1860
................ +Harrison Porter 1780 - 1860 b: 1780 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Bet. 1860 - 1869 in Stanford, Lincoln Co., Kentucky
............ 3 Henry Mauzy 1783 - 1826 b: Bef. 1783 d: Bef. 02/1826 in Garrard Co., Kemtucky
............ 3 Nancy "Molly" Mauzy 1775 - 1831 b: 1775 in Virginia d: 1831 in Kentucky
................ +Edwin Porter 1773 - 1841 b: 1773 in Fauquier Co., Va.--to Lincoln Co., Ky in 1808 d: Aft. 03/27/1841 in Barren Co., Kentucky
..... 2 Hannah Duncan 1750 - b: 1750 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
......... +Ebenezer "Ebbin Abbin" Porter 1755 - b: Bef. 1755
..... 2 Howson Hooe Duncan 1757 - 1814 b: 09/21/1757 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 10/14/1814 in Stanford, Lincoln Co., Ky
......... +Agnes Johnson 1760 - 1837 b: 08/14/1760 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 01/28/1837 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky
............ 3 Jemima Duncan 1780 - b: 04/03/1780 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
................ +John Parr 1779 - b: Abt. 1779 in Of Fauquier Co., Virginia
............ 3 Joseph Warren Duncan 1781 - 1836 b: 07/27/1781 in Fauquier Co., Virginia>Lincoln Co., Ky 1803 d: 03/13/1836 in Danville, Hardin Co., Kentucky
................ +Mary Elizabeth "Polly" Hite 1786 - 1864 b: 01/20/1786 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 08/21/1864 in Hardin Co., Kentucky
............ 3 Lydia Duncan 1784 - 1860 b: 04/23/1784 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Aft. 1860
................ +James Crow 1784 - 1860 b: 08/18/1784 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky d: Aft. 1860
............ 3 Anna Duncan 1786 - 1860 b: 03/03/1786 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: Aft. 08/31/1860 in Mercer Co., Kentucky or Missouri
................ +Smallwood Maddox 1784 - 1877 b: 1784 d: 1877
............ 3 Ellen Duncan 1788 - b: 03/25/1788 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
................ +William Moore 1788 - b: Abt. 1788 in Virginia
............ 3 John Duncan 1790 - 1843 b: 02/01/1790 d: Bef. 03/30/1843 in Boyle Co., Kentucky
............ 3 Elizabeth Duncan 1792 - b: 06/10/1792
............ 3 Howson Duncan, Jr. 1794 - b: 1794 in Va>Lincoln Co., Ky>Hardin by 1820
................ +Hannah Southern 1802 - b: Bef. 1802
............ 3 Rebecca Duncan 1796 - 1840 b: 11/21/1796 d: 03/06/1840 in Hardin Co., Kentucky
................ +Stephen Fisher Southern 1794 - 1877 b: 12/14/1794 d: 1877 in Bullitt Co., Kentucky
............ 3 [3] Johnson Franklin Duncan 1798 - 1873 b: 11/12/1798 in Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 11/14/1873 in Long Grove, Hardin Co., Kentucky
................ +Martha B. (Patsy) Stone 1800 - 1845 b: 10/11/1800 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky d: 01/25/1845 in Hardin Co., Kentucky
............ *2nd Wife of [3] Johnson Franklin Duncan:
................ +Elizabeth Smith 1816 - 1899 b: 05/28/1816 in Mercer Co., Kentucky d: 04/10/1899 in Hardin Co., Kentucky
............ 3 Nathaniel James Duncan 1800 - 1882 b: 09/27/1800 in Virginia d: 05/02/1882 in Stephensburg, Hardin Co., Kentucky
................ +Susan Duncan 1800 - 1870 b: 1800 in Virginia d: Aft. 1870
............ 3 [4] William Duncan 1803 - b: 03/11/1803
................ +Elizabeth Pope
............ *2nd Wife of [4] William Duncan:
................ +Ann Logan
............ *3rd Wife of [4] William Duncan:
................ +Phebe Caldwell 1809 - b: 05/31/1809 in Mercer/Boyle Co., Kentucky
Faquier Co Va 1-469: 22 Dec. 1762, Rice "R" (his mark) Duncan of Fauquier Co. VA, to same, for £40, 189 acres, free and clear from all ... dower rights, etc., above land. Wit. Thomas McClanaham, William McClanaham, Francis (X) Selt, William Marshall. (FHL film 31,583) (wfd: Is Seit = "Self" (neighbor to Peter Duncan). Also, I think I can connect William Marshall to the McClanahans by marriage. This area is also in the area of the Holtzclaw family
1-305: 31 Oct. 1761, Joseph Hackney and wife Sarah and William Duty and wife Caty of NC to "John Duncan" of the Parish of Hamilton and County of Fauquier Junier for £60, to the said "Joseph Duncan", agree to sell the land after one year - (later, "John Duncan"). Witnesses Thomas McClanaham,Samuel Porter, Joseph Duncan, Joseph (X) Duncan, Wm. Walker, Jacob Wever, Samuel Walker, Thomas Parker. Relinquishment of dowers. Joseph Duncan's oath re signature of Joseph Hackney, Thomas McClanaham. (FHL film 31,583) (MAD: John & Elizabeth sold 1769)
Bute Co, NC
DB-2, page ll6. 4 April 1768. JOSEPH HACKNEY & SARAH HACKNEY, of Bute Co., to GEORGE ALLEN, of Fauquar(sic) Co., Va. (wfd- From Brent town area of Fauquier) 60 Pds. Va. money for 300 A. in Bute Co. on ES Robertsons Mill Branch, bought from RICE DUNCAN who had bought -it from HUGH HARDY. Wit: WM. MOORE, JOHN HACKNEY, SUSANNA MOORE.Ack: by JOSPEH HACKNEY, Bute August Court 1768, BEN McCULLOCH, C.C.Reg: 29 January 1769, by WILLIAM JOHNSON, P.R.Marginal notation: 14th. Nov. 1771 Deld. to G. A.
A-265: 26 May 1764, Rice Duncan of Faquier Co. VA to Joseph Hackney of Granville Co. NC, £40, 300 acres on east side of Robisson's Mill Branch of Sandy Creek in Granville Co., the same granted from Hugh Hardy to Rice Duncan. Wit. Charles Bah?, Rice Duncan Jun, Charles Duncan. (FHL film 20,063; not listed as signed by mark) (MAD: Joseph Hackney and Robert Duncan were witnesses to Deed A-190 in 1764 from William Duty to William Kimbal)
DB-3, page 109. 9 August 1769. JOSEPH HACKNEY to ROBERT DUNCAN, both of Bute Co. 20 Pds. Procl. money for 300 A. in Bute Co. on BS Woolf Pit Creek, adj. BAKER & JOSEPH HACKNEY. Wit: WILLIAM MOORE, ASHKENAZ WILLIAMS. Proved by WILLIAM MOORE, Bute August Court 1770, BEN McCULLOCH, C.C. Reg: 6 Feb. 1771, by WILLIAM JOHNSON, P.R. Marginal notation: 13th. May 1772 Deld. to R. DUNCOM
Bute County, North Carolina Court Minutes, 1767-79
Jesse Hunter is Appointed Overseer of the road from Shocco bridge to Fishing Creek bridge in the room of William Park (wfd- partner of William Duncan) and Ordered that the hands belonging to Jethro Sumner at both Quarters, James Miller, Isaac & Jesse Hunter, Phillip Alston Jun'r, Joseph Duncan , Thomas Calbard, Richard Moore & John Marshall work under him, and that he Immediately put the same in repair and the hands of Ja's Ransom bridle Creek added. Ordered that the hands of William Park work on the road under Young McLemore in the room of William Tabbs hands. The former order for turning the road from Fishing Creek bridge to William Parks store, not being yet comply'd with by the Jury, Ordered the Same be renew'd. A Deed of Bargain and Sale from William Tabb & Wife to William Park proved by the oath of Nathaniel Henderson, one of the wit's, M. O. R. A Deed of Bargain and Sale from Henry Westbroke to William Park proved by the oath of Jethro Sumner, M. O. R. A Deed of Sale from Henry Westbroke to William Park & C'o proved by the oath of John Scott a witness, M. O. R. On motion ordered, the Petition of Sundry Inhabitants of this County for a road Strikeing out of the road that runs from Philemon Hawkins to the Court house at M'r Ransom's path, the most convenient Way into the road that leads from the Court house to William Park's27 store be granted and that the following persons, to wit, James Ransom Esq'r, Nathaniel Henderson Esq'r, William Park, Peter Green, John Bell, Benjamin Kimbell, Joseph Hackney, Peter Kimbell, James Moore, Philemon Hawkins Esq'r, Ellis Marquis, Isaac House, Charles Allen, Young McLemore, John Nichols, Richard Moore, John Marshall, Abraham Mayfield be appointed as Jurors to view & lay off the said road; John Hawkins Jun'r appointed Overseer of the same, and Ordered that the same be opened & Cleared, by the hands of John Hawkins, Adkin McLemore and James Ransom at his home house. 13 May 1768 A Bill of Sale from Joseph Martin, William Martin & George Martin to James Martin proved by the oath of George Brogdon a witness, M. O. R.
Thomas Turner Esq'r is appointed to take the list of Taxables from William Elliotts at Mr. Duncans Store to Shocco bridge, thence down Shocco Creek to the County line thence up by the County Line to Mrs. Persons and from thence to where Mr. Persons road turns out of the Shocco Road and from thence to Elliotts along the Main road, and Ordered that the Constable in the said Precinct Summon the Several persons therein to give in their said Taxables. (Interesting that Blanchflower Duncan
Bute Co. NC Will Book A (typed) (FHL film 531,530)
A-112: Rec. Feb. 1770 (no date), I Blanch Flower Dunkin of the County of North Carolina (?) send Greeting &c. KNOW ye that I the said Blanch Flower Duncan for and in consideration of the sum of Ten pounds ... do owe and am indebted unto Kesiah Dunkin of the above said County and Province, HAVE, given, granted and sold ... unto the said Kesiah Dunkin and her heirs all and singular my goods and Chattles & Emplements of household, as are contained and specified in a Certain Schedule that I have given unto her; ... and her own proper use and behoof for ever, thereof and therewith to do use and dispose at her and their (her heirs) will and leasure ... by the delivery unto her at the insealing hereof of one four pence of silver .... Blanch Flower (his mark B D) Dunkin. Wit. John Vallandingham, Samuel Hammond, Dawson Vallandigham.
Bute Co. NC Will Book A (typed) (FHL film 531,530)
A-112: Rec. Feb. 1770 (no date), I Blanch Flower Dunkin of the County of North Carolina (?) send Greeting &c. KNOW ye that I the said Blanch Flower Duncan for and in consideration of the sum of Ten pounds ... do owe and am indebted unto Kesiah Dunkin of the above said County and Province, HAVE, given, granted and sold ... unto the said Kesiah Dunkin and her heirs all and singular my goods and Chattles & Emplements of household, as are contained and specified in a Certain Schedule that I have given unto her; ... and her own proper use and behoof for ever, thereof and therewith to do use and dispose at her and their (her heirs) will and leasure ... by the delivery unto her at the insealing hereof of one four pence of silver .... Blanch Flower (his mark B D) Dunkin. Wit. John Vallandingham, Samuel Hammond, Dawson Vallandigham.
Granville County North Carolina - Tax List of Robert Harris 1764
A List of Tithables Taken by Robert Harris 1764 Whites blacks male female Total
Holtsclaw Henry 1 1
Now a little bit about Robert Harris: Robert Harris was living in Granville County, North Carolina on April 27, 1753 when he received a grant of 488 acres on Little Fishing Creek from the English Earl of Granville. Robert received, from the same source, 310 acres of land on Stonehouse Creek, adjacent to Nicholson land, on March 11, 1760. These lands were located successively in Granville, Bute and Warren Counties. Note: Some of this property is near Blanchflower Duncan's location, as I recall.
Bute county, North Carolina.
To all sheriff’s, constables, and other his Majesty’s liege people.
WHEREAS Astons [torn] jun. of the [torn] Esq; one of his majesty’s justices of the Peace in and for the said county of Bute, that Joseph Duncan, late of the said county, blacksmith, did confess to him that he, Joseph, with a false key, and with force and arms did feloniously break open the jail of the said county some time in August last,(wfd-1769) and stole from the aforesaid jail a Negro fellow, who called himself TOM, a runaway, the property, as he said, of John Mayo, of Cumberland county, Virginia; and him the said Negro Tom the said Joseph Duncan did take and carry away, and sold to one Richard Sears for a consideration of five pounds proclamation money, and a horse of the value of eight pounds Virginia money, against the peace of our Sovereign Lord the King, his crown and dignity: These are therefore, in his Majesty’s name, to command you forthwith to make diligent pursuit after the said felon, and hue and cry him from town to town, and from county to county, as well by horsemen as footmen, in order to apprehend the said felon, and when taken that you carry him forthwith before some one of his Majesty’s Justices of the Peace in and for the said county where he shall be apprehended, to be by such Justice examined and dealt with according to law; and hereof fail you not respectively, upon the peril that shall ensue thereon.
GIVEN under my hand and seal, the 7th day of December, 1769.
Pg.254, Westmoreland Co. Court 30th of September 1714. Dunkan &c v. Remy &c. In the Ejectione Firme brought to this Court by Thomas Clay, Lessee ofJohn Dunkan, Pltf. against William Remy admitted Defendant in the stead of John Day for lands and tenements with the appurtenances scituate in the Parish of Cople and County aforesaid in the possession of William Nash. After several continuances of the same, the Pltf. and Defendt. at March Court 1714 agreed on the following facts, vizt, 1st, that Peter Dunkan was possest of the land in dispute in fee; 2ndly that he by his Will in writeing duely proved dated the 9th ofSeptember 1676 devised the same to his Son, William, for one hundred acres of land called the Woodyard and willed that if it should please almighty God to take his Sons, Matthew, Wm. and Charles out of this life or either of them without heir that then what he had given them in his sd. Will should fall between his Daughters before in his sd. Will named equally which Daughters were Eliza., Anne, Ellen and Rebecca as by his Will a true copy whereof is hereunto annexed more at large appeares; 3dly that Wm. Dunkan did depart this life without issue; 4thly that Eliza., Anne and Rebecca (Ellen being dead without issue) entered into the said lands by vertue of the said devise and with their Husbands made sale thereof to the Defendt. and are all since dead every one of them leaveing and now haveing issue liveing, 5thly that John Dunkan, Pltf's Lessor is heir at Law to Peter Dunkan the Testator and the point in question is what Estate the Daughters had in the lands in controversie whether an Estate only for life or an Estate of Inheritance in fee, and submitted the same to the Judgment of the Court. Upon consideration whereof the Court are of opinion that the devise of the said Peter Dunkan according to the intent and meaning of his Last Will and Testament creates an Estate in fee taile in his Daughters aforementioned and noe other; whereupon at the instance of the Defendt. the suit is ordered to be dismist with costs &c. (FHL film 34,293)
Fred Duncan
Jason Duncan
Fred, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I hope we can find a little more documentation on the two John Duncans who married women named Elizabeth. As far as I can tell, there’s not a marriage record to either Elizabeth Holtzclaw or Elizabeth Triplett. However, in John Holtzclaw’s last will and testament, he mentions his daughter Elizabeth who is the wife of John Duncan. I wonder what record or clue exists for the marriage of a John Duncan to Elizabeth Triplett? Is it a deed, will, Bible record? Has anyone found a record in Mary Ann’s files? There must be something. Wouldn’t it be crazy if it’s the same John Duncan who was first married to one Elizabeth, and later married the other?
I haven’t looked yet for any first hand sources for the family of Elizabeth Triplett. But if she did actually have brothers named Greenberry and Abel, then I’m tempted to put my chips in the Triplett corner. If we find a man named Blanchflower Triplett then I’m ready to go all in! I did a quick check of my dad’s matches on AncestryDNA, and I realized two things. First, every match who had Holtzclaw in their tree was related through John Duncan and Elizabeth Holtzclaw. That is, none of the matches descended from one generation earlier through one of Elizabeth’s siblings. That means if we’re wrong about my descent from Elizabeth Holtzclaw, then all of these other DNA matches have the same error in their trees. The catch here is that we’re talking about DNA being passed through 8 generations. This isn’t conclusive, but an interesting thing to note.
The other thing I noticed in my dad’s AncestryDNA matches is that he had several matches who descend from the Triplett family of Loudoun Co, VA. While this is also interesting, it’s not conclusive either. If I’m looking at the trees of my matches at 6 or 7 generations back, then it might be unusual if I IDIDN’T find any Tripletts. After all, they were a large family living in the same general area as my ancestors. That doesn’t necessarily mean I descend from the Tripletts or that I’m related to these matches through the Triplett family.
It’s exciting to possibly have a new lead on taking the Duncan line back further, and I wanted to take a few minutes to share my thoughts on how we might be able to move forward.
Jason Duncan
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................ +Enoch Smith , AmRev 1753 - 1803 b: Bet. 1753 - 1755 in Prince William Co., Virginia d: 1803 in Fauquier Co., Virginia Query: Could he be related to the Enoch Smith connecting to George Harding who married Mary, widow of Blanchflower JR?)
............ *2nd Husband of [2] Elizabeth "Betsy" O'Bannon:
................ +Francis Tri plett - 1826 d: Bef. 1826
................ +Lucinda Smi th 1791 - b: 1791 in Fauquier Co., Virginia
................ +Elizabeth S mith 1816 - 1899 b: 05/28/1816 in Mercer Co., Kentucky d: 04/10/1899 in Hardin Co., Kentucky
............ 3 Nathaniel James Duncan 1800 - 1882 b: 09/27/1800 in Virginia d: 05/02/1882 in Stephensburg, Hardin Co., Kentucky
................ +Susan Duncan 1800 - 1870 b: 1800 in Virginia d: Aft. 1870
............ 3 [4] William Duncan 1803 - b: 03/11/1803
................ +Elizabeth Pope
............ *2nd Wife of [4] William Duncan:
................ +Ann Logan
............ *3rd Wife of [4] William Duncan:
................ +Phebe Caldwell 1809 - b: 05/31/1809 in Mercer/Boyle Co., Kentucky
PRW, Va. F-148: 17 Feb. 1743, Grant to Rice Duncan of Prince William Co., 189 acres in Prince William Co., survey made by Wm. James Thomas the Younger, beg. ... on a hill side above the head of a branch of Licking run, corner to lands of Dennis Connyers, James Withers & Francis Jackson, ... crossing a small branch of great Run, ... on a ridge in the line of Mr. John Hooe, ... line of aforesaid Dennis Connyers. (FHL film 29,513)
Faquier Co Va 1-469: 22 Dec. 1762, Rice "R" (his mark) Duncan of Fauquier Co. VA, to same, for £40, 189 acres, free and clear from all ... dower rights, etc., above land. Wit. Thomas McClanaham, William McClanaham, Francis (X) Selt, William Marshall. (FHL film 31,583) (wfd: Is Seit = "Self" (neighbor to Peter Duncan). Also, I think I can connect William Marshall to the McClanahans by marriage. This area is also in the area of the Holtzclaw family
1-305: 31 Oct. 1761, Joseph Hackney and wife Sarah and William Duty and wife Caty of NC to "John Duncan" of the Parish of Hamilton and County of Fauquier Junier for £60, to the said "Joseph Duncan", agree to sell the land after one year - (later, "John Duncan"). Witnesses Thomas McClanaham,Sa muel Porter, Joseph Duncan, Joseph (X) Duncan, Wm. Walker, Jacob Wever, Samuel Walker, Thomas Parker. Relinquishment of dowers. Joseph Duncan's oath re signature of Joseph Hackney, Thomas McClanaham. (FHL film 31,583) (MAD: John & Elizabeth sold 1769)
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