Land -it's all about the ownership of land

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Jun 12, 2025, 11:23:50 AM6/12/25
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I am wearing my Ignite head now but i was wondering if anyone knows of someone (maybe yourself) that is familiar with the history of land ownership in the UK - someone who is familiar with themes such as the Enclosure Movement, serfdom and the Commons (as in common land) - 

I need people to give a 5 minute talk to an audience on the 5th July at part of Liverpool Makefest. 

 Will love you forever if you say it is you and you are free.

Neil
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Neil Morrin

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Jun 13, 2025, 3:55:12 AM6/13/25
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Just to update you on this - we already have 3 talks - two possible guided tours around the city and a seed drop is on route. 

But the main copy for this is here:

📢 Call for Speakers: “Who Owns the Land?”

🗓️ Event Date: 5th July
📍 Topic: Land Ownership in the UK

We’re inviting speakers to contribute to an event exploring the history and future of land ownership in the UK — a subject that touches on everything from power and privilege to housing, environment, and justice.

Whether your expertise lies in history, law, policy, activism, urban planning, or personal lived experience, we want to hear your perspective. Topics might include (but are not limited to):

  • The feudal system and the Domesday Book

  • Enclosure and its legacy

  • Colonial land models

  • Landed estates and aristocracy

  • Land reform, access, and ownership today

🎤 Talks can be academic, creative, critical, or community-focused.
🔗 Submit your proposal via the form https://igniteliverpool.com/2025/06/ignite-futures-who-owns-the-land/

If you want to take part then please go for it. 

Neil


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Alex J Lennon

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Jun 17, 2025, 6:16:34 AM6/17/25
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fwiw - There's a lot of good stuff out there on this. I am not certain if this is the article I was thinking about but a key point is that when the land registry was created decisions were taken which effectively mean we can't find out who owns what in this country...

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/28/who-owns-england-guy-shrubsole-review-land-ownership

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Jun 17, 2025, 3:53:24 PM6/17/25
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Hi all,

In a further turn up for the books this excellent adventure is also taking place on 5th July - Open Data Manchester are running Free Range Liverpool 

Free Range is a celebration of joyful meandering through places known and unknown, regarding them as spaces or adventures yet to be defined. It is not a guided tour.

As part of Ignite Liverpool’s theme – Who owns the land and how did they get it? We're delighted to be participating in Liverpool Makefest.

Like its sibling event Joy Diversion, Free Range’s underlying theme is one of ownership: how we as citizens have rights to and ownership of public space, but also how we have ownership of our own experiences. Our cities have become transactional affairs where we pass through them to get from one place to another, where our presence is legitimised by work or consumption. Yet this functional concept of the city leads to a certain sterility and soullessness, where those who don't wish to spend are unwelcome.

Free Range challenges this commodification of urban space. It encourages participants to make their own adventures and provides tools—such as explorer backpacks—to make that happen. Liverpool's streets, waterfront, hidden corners and public spaces are much more than buildings, roads and paths. They are places where fun can be had and where we can find joy, if we give ourselves the chance to look.

Join us this July as we bring this tradition of playful urban exploration and communal rediscovery to Liverpool, exploring questions of land ownership through wandering, wondering, and reclaiming our right to roam.

Joy Diversion and Free Range have evolved out of "Who Owns the Land?" events that ODM ran with Guy Shrubsole (author of "Who Owns England", "The Lost Rainforests of Britain") and Morag Rose (founder of the Loiterers' Resistance Movement), as well as our work examining how data technologies within the urban built environment capture space and the people within them, and how people's rights—both in the physical and data worlds—change depending on the kind of space they occupy.

Sign up here: https://bit.ly/ODM-FRL1

Martin Dunschen

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Jun 21, 2025, 11:10:14 AM6/21/25
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For what it's worth:

The New Enclosure, The Appropriation of Public Land in Neoliberal Britain; by Brett Christophers is a good book to understand where land privatisation goes and how it is driven by our governments. It's from 2018, but you can see the mechanism in action today. Think of the old police headquarters in L1 for example, the publicly owned property now going to a private owner as "surplus"

Martin


Tom Owens

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Jun 21, 2025, 7:36:06 PM6/21/25
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Hey Martin

Neo Liberalism would be the politics of Thatcher or Friedman. I'm pretty sure this is a New Labour directed policy, which would be the New Left.

The Public Private Partnership is central to its economic planning. Neo Liberalism has no central plan.


Martin Dunschen

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Jun 22, 2025, 4:35:25 AM6/22/25
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"Neoliberal Britain" is quoted from the subtitle of the book. It does of course cover also the times of Labour governments, being published in 2018. When I check the index, "PPI" or "public private partnership" are not listed, disappointingly. 

I don't claim to have read the whole book, but I agree that policies of  privatising public land have continued over the years, with all governments we had.

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Jun 24, 2025, 5:24:01 AM6/24/25
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I do hope that the audience displays such passion for the subject during our Q&A opportunity at the end of the talks. 


David Coveney

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Jun 25, 2025, 11:18:35 AM6/25/25
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Should we sing the song?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_(song)

Interestingly, P J O'Rourke (a right wing columnist, but hilarious) once opined that Hong Kong's success was because no businesses owned the land - they merely leased it from the government.

Dave

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Jun 25, 2025, 11:26:36 AM6/25/25
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You laugh David but this is the song list for the 5th

World Turned Upside Down
This Land is Your Land (Liverpool version)
The Diggers Song.
Axe Drax.
Let's Work Together.
Raise Your Banners.
Song For the Earth.
Tree Song.
Bella Ciao (Enviromental version)
Rosa's Lovely Daughters.
Never Doubt.

I have the lyrics so you don't have to learn them. The socialist singers are doing a turn before the talks start so we can hum along. :-) 



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David Coveney

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Jun 25, 2025, 11:29:04 AM6/25/25
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Will the event work for us liberal types who pushed the idea before socialism was a common word? ;-)

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