Forgive me if this question is too basic, but I'm a relative newbie to programming frameworks. As I understand it, a framework is built to abstract common tasks within the native language (Python, PHP, Ruby, etc.) When development using a framework is complete, will the production version of the app still require the framework? For instance, would an app developed with Django need only Python, or the entire programming framework? (I haven't seen a suitable answer after searching.)
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It will needs the Django as well. Think of them as layers - at the bottom is the OS, then there is python. Django sits on Python. Your project sits on Django. Can't remove a layer.cheersL.------The most dangerous phrase in the language is, "We've always done it this way."- Grace HopperOn 26 March 2017 at 14:19, Ed Sutherland <e...@tburgnews.com> wrote:
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Forgive me if this question is too basic, but I'm a relative newbie to programming frameworks. As I understand it, a framework is built to abstract common tasks within the native language (Python, PHP, Ruby, etc.) When development using a framework is complete, will the production version of the app still require the framework? For instance, would an app developed with Django need only Python, or the entire programming framework? (I haven't seen a suitable answer after searching.)
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Python is a programming language. You can use it to write many types of programs. For example, you can use it to write web applications (which run on a web server, respond to HTTP requests, store their data in a database, render HTML templates for output, etc.). But doing this from scratch would require you to write many modules of Python code yourself, in order to handle all the common and necessary parts of a typical web application.Django provides those things for you, already written, so that you do not need to write them yourself. Instead, you can write only the things which are truly unique to your specific application, and let already-written modules from Django handle the rest.
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On Sunday 26 March 2017 00:46:28 Ed Sutherland wrote:
> Wow. I had thought Django as an assistant to build python projects. If
> I need the framework along with whatever language, it seems like
> immense code-bloat. What, then, is the purpose of using frameworks?
You can think of Django as just a library. We call it a "framework" because it defines a whole way of working. Likewise, the Python standard library calls unittest a "framework" and this is consistent, because unittest also defines a whole way of working. But the difference between a framework and a library can be blurred.
So when you deploy your app, you need to include the libraries on
which it depends, and Django is one of them.
Antonis Christofides http://djangodeployment.com
Forgive me if this question is too basic, but I'm a relative newbie to programming frameworks. As I understand it, a framework is built to abstract common tasks within the native language (Python, PHP, Ruby, etc.) When development using a framework is complete, will the production version of the app still require the framework? For instance, would an app developed with Django need only Python, or the entire programming framework? (I haven't seen a suitable answer after searching.)
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L.cheersBut be aware - when you have to actually write some code that makes user accounts and logins happen in Pylons, that's when you will discover that Django's "batteries included" philosophy really works for some style of projects.For instance take Authentication and Authorization - logins. Not every site needs one. Django has it by default. If you don't need it, maybe Pylons is a better fit.If you take James' answer and expand it a little, take a look at a Python micro-framework like Pylons http://pylonsproject.org/It's smaller than Django and is a useful tool for a different type of website.
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Python is a programming language. You can use it to write many types of programs. For example, you can use it to write web applications (which run on a web server, respond to HTTP requests, store their data in a database, render HTML templates for output, etc.). But doing this from scratch would require you to write many modules of Python code yourself, in order to handle all the common and necessary parts of a typical web application.Django provides those things for you, already written, so that you do not need to write them yourself. Instead, you can write only the things which are truly unique to your specific application, and let already-written modules from Django handle the rest.
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I now understand the purpose and worth of Django. What, then, are the questions I need to ask potential hosts? I'm leaning toward Linode, but would also like affordable managed hosting.---- On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 04:16:52 -0400 Lachlan Musicman<dat...@gmail.com> wrote ----
L.cheersBut be aware - when you have to actually write some code that makes user accounts and logins happen in Pylons, that's when you will discover that Django's "batteries included" philosophy really works for some style of projects.For instance take Authentication and Authorization - logins. Not every site needs one. Django has it by default. If you don't need it, maybe Pylons is a better fit.If you take James' answer and expand it a little, take a look at a Python micro-framework like Pylons http://pylonsproject.org/It's smaller than Django and is a useful tool for a different type of website.
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