Re: Backup vs Audit

[Russell Keith-Magee]

Hi Andrea,

In short, you don't - at least, not out of the box. That's not what Django's admin interface is for. Django's admin is a quick-and-dirty CRUD interface you can throw over some models, with some customisation hooks that means it has a lifespan beyond initial bootstrapping.

It isn't a sysadmin tool, or a dbadmin tool, or anything like that.

If you want to backup and/or restore your database, you need to use a database backup tool. There are a range of options, depending on the database you're using; but I'm not aware of any particularly common options that are integrated with Django's admin.

Yours,

Russ Magee %-)

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Andrea Zakowicz <andreaz...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi I wonder if you are aware of how to backup / restoration database and audit from the django admin.

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[Tom Evans]

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andrea Zakowicz
<andreaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Most of the tools I've found is administered from commands and no template
> Django admin.
> What I want is to do both operations from the manager but found nothing.
> Help!!
> For example, proven tools are auditlog and dbbackup.
>

Off the top of my head there are several reasons why there are few
tools (none that I know of/trust/use) in the DB backup space:

1) good DB management does not happen from a UI, it happens from an
automated system, which will run non interactive commands.
2) For any non trivial database, you aren't going to back it up in the
context of a single request- it should be handled outside the
request-response cycle. This sort of behaviour is not built in to
django - there are good packages that provide it, but why go to the
complexity given the points in 1).

There are plenty of audit trail packages that integrate with django
admin, since audit trails are simply model instances tracking changes
to other model instances. Keywords "django audit".

Cheers

Tom

[Lachlan Musicman]

I've used dbbackup with success - a cronjob to copy out the database
(and replace the testing and staging databases with "yesterday's
data") and copy it to another machine.

Regards the Django admin interface, there are a number of points to consider:
- the base interface will always be in the Django source repository,
and is well tagged. You should always be able to redeploy from that
- any adjustments you have made could be going into another source
repository (git, mercurial, svn) of your own - which is another backup
again. If you aren't putting your own changes into a source
repository, I would suggest that is an excellent start.

FWIW, and I apologise for sounding like a broken record, Danny G and
Audrey R's Two Scoops of Django is an *excellent* place to start if
you are comfortable with the tutorial and looking for a "what next"
text. I found it invaluable for helping with these weird little
decisions that seem so far from the actual creation of the site you
are making.

L.

On 9 December 2014 at 21:06, Andrea Zakowicz <andreaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Most of the tools I've found is administered from commands and no template
> Django admin.
> What I want is to do both operations from the manager but found nothing.
> Help!!
> For example, proven tools are auditlog and dbbackup.
>
>
>
>

> El lunes, 8 de diciembre de 2014 10:22:49 UTC-3, Andrea Zakowicz escribió:
>>
>> Hi I wonder if you are aware of how to backup / restoration database and
>> audit from the django admin.
>
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[Lachlan Musicman]

Sorry, what I should have lead with is "at the moment there is no
point and click backup solution for your whole package".