how to get get-pip.py

[Steve Burrus]

how do I get get-pip.py?

 

[Vijay Khemlani]

https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/installing.html

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Steve Burrus <steveb...@gmail.com> wrote:

how do I get get-pip.py?

 

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[DHaval Joshi]

python get-pip.py install

[Steve Burrus]

well I am ab;e to install pip okay BUT there must be a config. error because all that I get when I t ry to run pip is this :

"C:\Users\SteveB\Desktop>pip

'pip' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file."

Now what is wrong anyway? [I have set the environment variables the right way for Python I believe]

[Steve Burrus]

well I am still waiting for an answer to my earlier post about pip and apparently not configuring it right. 

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[Mike Dewhirst]

On 4/06/2015 8:42 AM, Steve Burrus wrote:
> well I am still waiting for an answer to my earlier post about pip and

> apparently not configuring it right.Â

Have you looked at the pip website? Maybe there is a user support
mailing list for pip.

But in any case, perhaps you should use Python >= 3.4 because it has pip
built in.

Good luck

Mike

>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Steve Burrus <steveb...@gmail.com
> <mailto:steveb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> well I am ab;e to install pip okay BUT there must be a config. error
> because all that I get when I t ry to run pip is this :
>
> "C:\Users\SteveB\Desktop>pip
> 'pip' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable
> program or batch file."
>
> Now what is wrong anyway? [I have set the environment variables the
> right way for Python I believe]

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> On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 6:01:47 PM UTC-5, Steve Burrus wrote:
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> how do I get get-pip.py?
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[Steve Burrus]

"you should use Python >= 3.4" I rerpeatedly use version 3.5 of Python! I have looked at many of these tutorial videos, via youtube, on how to set up Django but I still get that error msg. when I try to type in "pip" after I think I haVE successfully installed it!

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[Mike Dewhirst]

Sorry Steve

I didn't realise you needed help to get Django installed. You said you
were having a problem with pip.

Generally the best way to get help is to explain exactly what you have
done and detail the error messages generated. Putting your message in
bold doesn't help.

I just checked my sent messages and see that I replied to you a couple
of days ago at which time you said you had Django working.

I can understand that you are having problems in a Windows environment
because I am forced to use it myself and I too have to cope with its
idiosyncrasies. I didn't know there is a Windows version 10 and I see
from Tuesday's post you say it is a beta version.

If you have no other choice of platform you should expect a beta version
of any operating system to have problems which the supplier really wants
to hear about so they can sort it out. So, to help Microsoft out I
suggest the following:

1. Uninstall Django and Python

2. Install Python 3.4 for Windows (3.5 is quite new) exactly as
described on the Python website.

3. Fully document any errors encountered

4. Report such errors to Microsoft if any

5. If there were no errors installing Python 3.4 and you are able to get
a non-Supervisor command prompt running, then install Django like this:

C:\users\steve\pip install django

6. If you encounter any problems at all you must let Microsoft know
because they will want to fix it.

Mike





On 4/06/2015 11:16 AM, Steve Burrus wrote:
> *"you should use Python >= 3.4" I rerpeatedly use version 3.5 of Python!

> I have looked at many of these tutorial videos, via youtube, on how to

> set up Django but I_still _get that error msg. when I try to type in
> "pip" after I think I haVE successfully installed it!*
> *
> *
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Steve B.Â
> *
> *
> *
> *On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au
> <mailto:mi...@dewhirst.com.au>> wrote:
> *
>
> *On 4/06/2015 8:42 AM, Steve Burrus wrote:
> *
>
> *well I am still waiting for an answer to my earlier post about
> pip and
> apparently not configuring it right.Â
> *
>
> *

> Have you looked at the pip website? Maybe there is a user support
> mailing list for pip.
>
> But in any case, perhaps you should use Python >= 3.4 because it has
> pip built in.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mike
>

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[Steve Burrus]

Well Mikea I hardly did it the first time that I  tried but I was able to get Python 3.4 installed ! And I also got that ez-setup installed okay. But where do I go from here to get pip going okay?  incidentally I tried doing step 5 "C:\users\steve\pip install django" but that didn't work! There must be another path to the django install.

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[DHaval Joshi]

try this 

sudo apt-get install python-pip

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[Steve Burrus]

I am sorry Dhavi but your command didmn't work! Now I don't think you know  that I am on a Windows system and that "sudo" command do esn't work on windows. Any other ideas for me? 

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[Michael Manfre]

"sudo apt-get install ..." is a command that works on Ubuntu and a few other flavors of linux. It does not work on Windows.

Which version of Python did you install? If it's Python 3.4 or newer, pip is bundled. Python 3.4 is installed to "C:\Python34\" as the default. To use pip, you would execute "C:\Python34\python -m pip install PACKAGE_NAME" without the surrounding quotes. 

To avoid having to type the full path all the time, you will need to add it to your path. Please read https://docs.python.org/3.4/using/windows.html#excursus-setting-environment-variables

If you are using a version of Python earlier than 3.4, follow the instructions found at https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/installing.html

Regards,

Michael Manfre

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[Steve Burrus]

"Which version of Python did you install?" well up until last nite I was using some flavor of Python 3.5. But someone suggested that I get the 3.4 version of it so I did. I have all of the environment varianbles set correctly. I did the ez_install.py thing right. And you would think that I could easily do the "pip install django" ri ght but it fails.

Regards,

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[memilanuk]

On 06/04/2015 11:53 AM, Steve Burrus wrote:
> *"Which version of Python did you install?" well up until last nite I

> was using some flavor of Python 3.5. But someone suggested that I get

> the 3.4 version of it so I did. I have _all _of the environment

> varianbles set correctly. I did the ez_install.py thing right. And you
> would think that I could easily do the "pip install django" ri ght but
> it fails.
>

An observation... why are you trying to use python 3.5? You do realize
that its not been fully released yet... right?

If you don't know that, or don't know that pip comes already installed
in python 3.4.x and later, or how to set your PATH... you really, really
don't need to be running a beta or release candidate version of python.
For anything.

Stick with the latest released version, which is currently 3.4.3 - and
comes with pip already installed. There are seven 'options' to the
install, six of which are done for you by default. The last - 'Add
python.exe to your PATH' - should make 'pip' work straight from the
command line. Uninstall, re-install, check that option and move on. I
just did it in a Windows 7 VM - works fine.

A side note... lay off the large bold font - it makes your posts to the
list somewhat obnoxious to read. And try trimming your replies - and/or
not top-posting.


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[Steve Burrus]

sorry monte for the "inane" quesation but which Path should I use in Env. Variables, the one in "Users" or the one below in "System", to set the correct path with Python? I have seen conflicting tutorials which have said to use one or the other.

                                                                                              Steve  

[Alon Nisser]

1. Please, This is an open source community, with people answering questions here on their free time (no one here is getting payed to answer).  so no need for the BOLD Frustrated type.

2. Specifying you are on windows from the beginning would help, Lots of us are using different flavors of windows.

3. The error you are getting is proving that the path etc isn't set up correctly to support python install , shoot up a terminal and type python and hit enter - do you get a running python interpreter or the same error as pip? are the folders where python.exe and pip.exe are added to your windows path? (you can check where the binaries are with your favorite file explorer tool)  if not , you should add them. if they are did you add them to the path while the terminal you are using now was already active? if so you should try from another terminal ('cmd') instance

4. A final advice on python environments - make it a habit to use virtualenv (pip install virtualenv) and don't use global installs of packages

Good luck!

Regards,

                                                                                                               Steve Burrus  

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[memilanuk]

On 06/04/2015 01:43 PM, Steve Burrus wrote:
> but which Path should I use in Env. Variables, the one in "Users" or the one below in "System", to set
> the correct path with Python? I have seen conflicting tutorials which have said to use one or the other.
>

Like I said... the simplest way to get it right would be to uninstall,
and let the installer do it for you.

Otherwise... I've always used the System path, and it looks like the
Python 3.4.3 installer used the same approach: it pre-pended
'C:\Python34\;C:\Python34\Scripts;' (without the quotes) to the System path.

[Steve Burrus]

it seems like I haVE also seen someone say I should put, into the System path, the Python Lib\site-packages\django\bin or sometjhing like that. 

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[memilanuk]

On 06/04/2015 02:42 PM, Steve Burrus wrote:
> it seems like I haVE also seen someone say I should put, into the System
> path, the Python Lib\site-packages\django\bin or sometjhing like that.
>

I think I'd just worry about getting python/pip working from the command
line first, then virtualenv/virtualenvwrapper, then worry about django.

From inside a virtualenv, the django manage.py commands work just fine,
without any additional diddling with the system path.

[Steve Burrus]

when I try to run Python it comes for me normally! [ No problem ] I not heard yet about a pip.exe file. Just where is that contained in the Python ins tallation anyway? I  will try that "pip install virtualenv" soon.

Regards,

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[Michael Manfre]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Steve Burrus <steveb...@gmail.com> wrote:

when I try to run Python it comes for me normally! [ No problem ] I not heard yet about a pip.exe file. Just where is that contained in the Python ins tallation anyway? I  will try that "pip install virtualenv" soon.

C:\Python34\Scripts\pip.exe

I recommend adding C:\Python34\Scripts to your path right after the C:\Python34 folder (each path should be separated by a semicolon)

Regards,

Michael Manfre

[Steve Burrus]

well I mdid exactly what you instructed but it still didn't work! Here is the error mesg. that I got : "

c:\Users\SteveB\Desktop>pip install virtualenv 

Fatal error in launcher: Job information querying failed".

 

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[memilanuk]

Stop.

Uninstall python (whatever version(s) you have).

Re-install python (3.4.3), but this time when you get to the screen
telling you what all is going to be installed, scroll down and enable
the last item "Add python.exe to the PATH".

Python commands (including pip) should work from the command line with
no problem. I did *exactly* this as a test this afternoon, and told you
so earlier. Quit flailing about and start over.

[Steve Burrus]

Okay Monte I will certsainly "man up" and start over and try to do what you said. Incidentally I have done the "Add python.exe to the PATH" thing that you suggested but it still failed! I have done all of the configuration the right way but I still simply cannot type "pip" [into the command line] and get all of the pip commands.

On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 10:30:36 PM UTC-5, Monte Milanuk wrote:

[Steve Burrus]

well moknte I got good/bad news for you! The GOOD news is that I finally got pip installed successfully but the BAD news is that I wasn't able to upgrade pip. Here is the resulting error when I tried to do that :

"C:\Users\SteveB>pip install --upgrade pip

You are using pip version 6.0.8, however version 7.0.3 is available.

You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.

Collecting pip from https://pypi.python.org/packages/py2.py3/p/pip/pip-7.0.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl#md5=6950e1d775fea7ea50af690f72589dbd

  Using cached pip-7.0.3-py2.py3-none-any.whl

Installing collected packages: pip

  Found existing installation: pip 6.0.8

    Uninstalling pip-6.0.8:

      Successfully uninstalled pip-6.0.8

  Exception:

  Traceback (most recent call last):

    File "C:\Python34\lib\shutil.py", line 371, in _rmtree_unsafe os.unlink(fullname)

  PermissionError: [WinError 5] Access is denied: 'C:\\Users\\SteveB\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\pip-xfly9791-uninstall\\python34\\scripts\\pip.exe'

  During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

  Traceback (most recent call last):

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\basecommand.py", line 232, in main

      return PREVIOUS_BUILD_DIR_ERROR

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\commands\install.py", line 347, in run

      if os.path.islink(target_item_dir):

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\req\req_set.py", line 560, in install

      self.successfully_downloaded.append(req_to_install)

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\req\req_install.py", line 680, in commit_uninstall

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\req\req_uninstall.py", line 153, in commit

      rmtree(self.save_dir)

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\retrying.py", line 49, in wrapped_f

      return Retrying(*dargs, **dkw).call(f, *args, **kw)

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\retrying.py", line 212, in call

      raise attempt.get()

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\retrying.py", line 247, in get

      six.reraise(self.value[0], self.value[1], self.value[2])

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\six.py", line 659, in reraise

      raise value

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\retrying.py", line 200, in call

      attempt = Attempt(fn(*args, **kwargs), attempt_number, False)

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\utils\__init__.py", line 61, in rmtree

      try:

    File "C:\Python34\lib\shutil.py", line 478, in rmtree

      return _rmtree_unsafe(path, onerror)

    File "C:\Python34\lib\shutil.py", line 368, in _rmtree_unsafe

      _rmtree_unsafe(fullname, onerror)

    File "C:\Python34\lib\shutil.py", line 368, in _rmtree_unsafe

      _rmtree_unsafe(fullname, onerror)

    File "C:\Python34\lib\shutil.py", line 373, in _rmtree_unsafe

      onerror(os.unlink, fullname, sys.exc_info())

    File "C:\Python34\lib\site-packages\pip\utils\__init__.py", line 73, in rmtree_errorhandler

      raise

  PermissionError: [WinError 5] Access is denied: 'C:\\Users\\SteveB\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\pip-xfly9791-uninstall\\python34\\scripts\\pip.exe' "

Now what's wrong?  

[Gergely Polonkai]

Hello,

it seems that the user running pip doesn’t have write access to the temp directory. You should check the permissions of C:\Users\SteveB\AppData\Local\Temp and its subdirectories as you can see in the PermissionError line (just change the double backslashes (\\) to single ones (\).

Is it possible that you run pip with a user other than the one you used to install Python?

Best,

Gergely

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[DHaval Joshi]

sry dear i don't know about windows installation.....

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[Steve Burrus]

well tqhat's okay. I was absolutely struggling to get pip installed correctly for quite a long time! I need to see more videos on how to start to work with Django. You have any tips about t hat?

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[Gergely Polonkai]

It seems the very first thing you should do is make pip (and with that, Python) work. For this, you may want to go to a Python related mailing list, although I’m sure there are many overlapping between the Django list and that one.

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[Steve Burrus]

oh I thought tha t I told you thsat I was able to make python/pip work! It's just this little thing about not being able to upgrade pip which bothers me, just a little bit. and I am not trying to run pip with any other User other than myself.    

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[Gergely Polonkai]

So it doesn’t work :) I’m not very familiar with Python on Windows (or Windows, in general), but this really seems to be a problem related to this.

Have you also checked the permissions on the directory mentioned in the PermissionDenied message?

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[Russell Keith-Magee]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Steve Burrus <steveb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay Monte I will certsainly "man up" and start over and try to do what you said.

Hi Steve,

A quick aside: I'm sure you didn't intend any offence, but using language like "man up" isn't something we support in the Django community. We aspire to being an open and inclusive community; if you're participating in Django community spaces, you're expected to adhere to the Django Community Code of Conduct:

https://www.djangoproject.com/conduct/

There's nothing inherently masculine about software development. Expressions of overt masculinity and "bro" culture don't improve the clarity of your message, and are direct contradiction of our community goals of inclusivity and diversity. 

Please don't use turns of phrase like this in future.

Yours,

Russ Magee %-)

[dvdhbs]

Steve,

Try this at a command prompt:

py -3.4 -m pip install --upgrade pip

You can't upgrade pip using pip directly on Windows.

Best,
Dave

[Steve Burrus]

to everyone concerned : It's all goo d now! I  not only got pip installed I also managed to upgrade it and got django going, and connected to the Server, synched my new database. So  that is just about all the help which I require for now.

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