[OT] Is Trump planning to break the Internet?
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Etienne Robillard
Dec 10, 2017, 10:25:57 PM12/10/17
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Hey all,
On December 14, the FCC will vote to repeal net neutrality and possibly
rig the Internet. This means that major corporations could pay to have
their content delivered faster while independent websites traffic would
be throttled. I think this is a outrageous move and could seriously harm
independent websites and communities from reaching their key audience.
We must not let this happen!
Please share the word with your peers. It is imperative that we must
unite and act together to fight for our freedom of speech and prevent
the Internet from becoming obsolete. The Internet is a brilliant
technology allowing billions of people to share their knowledge
independently. We must defend at all costs its very own foundations and
protect it from censorship and tyranny!
Sincerely,
Etienne Robillard
https://www.fightforthefuture.org/
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Etienne Robillard
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On December 14, the FCC will vote to repeal net neutrality and possibly
rig the Internet. This means that major corporations could pay to have
their content delivered faster while independent websites traffic would
be throttled. I think this is a outrageous move and could seriously harm
independent websites and communities from reaching their key audience.
We must not let this happen!
Please share the word with your peers. It is imperative that we must
unite and act together to fight for our freedom of speech and prevent
the Internet from becoming obsolete. The Internet is a brilliant
technology allowing billions of people to share their knowledge
independently. We must defend at all costs its very own foundations and
protect it from censorship and tyranny!
Sincerely,
Etienne Robillard
https://www.fightforthefuture.org/
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https://www.isotopesoftware.ca/
Larry Martell
Dec 10, 2017, 11:36:57 PM12/10/17
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On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Etienne Robillard <tka...@yandex.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> On December 14, the FCC will vote to repeal net neutrality and possibly rig
> the Internet. This means that major corporations could pay to have their
> content delivered faster while independent websites traffic would be
> throttled. I think this is a outrageous move and could seriously harm
> independent websites and communities from reaching their key audience. We
> must not let this happen!
>
> Please share the word with your peers. It is imperative that we must unite
> and act together to fight for our freedom of speech and prevent the Internet
> from becoming obsolete. The Internet is a brilliant technology allowing
> billions of people to share their knowledge independently. We must defend at
> all costs its very own foundations and protect it from censorship and
> tyranny!
Please keep your political rhetoric and irresponsible scaremongering
> Hey all,
>
> On December 14, the FCC will vote to repeal net neutrality and possibly rig
> the Internet. This means that major corporations could pay to have their
> content delivered faster while independent websites traffic would be
> throttled. I think this is a outrageous move and could seriously harm
> independent websites and communities from reaching their key audience. We
> must not let this happen!
>
> Please share the word with your peers. It is imperative that we must unite
> and act together to fight for our freedom of speech and prevent the Internet
> from becoming obsolete. The Internet is a brilliant technology allowing
> billions of people to share their knowledge independently. We must defend at
> all costs its very own foundations and protect it from censorship and
> tyranny!
off this list.
All the net neutrality repeal will do is restore some of the
permissionless innovation that allowed the internet to blossom in the
first place.
Matthew Pava
Dec 11, 2017, 2:26:41 PM12/11/17
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>> Please keep your political rhetoric and irresponsible scaremongering off this list.
>> All the net neutrality repeal will do is restore some of the permissionless innovation that allowed the internet to blossom in the first place.
Dear Larry,
>> All the net neutrality repeal will do is restore some of the permissionless innovation that allowed the internet to blossom in the first place.
Please read what you just wrote. On the one hand, you asked Etienne not to share political rhetoric, and then you called Etienne's act one of irresponsible scaremongering. And then you had to have the last word in this discussion by sharing your own political rhetoric about the topic. That's not right, and I'm not going to sit by and let that happen.
The better way to handle it would have been a personal message to Etienne asking that user not to post political rhetoric (in a nicer way than you just did) and not make that message public.
So here's an article about Net Neutrality:
https://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now
How would it affect Django and GitHub? Well, ISPs could potentially charge extra money to be able to access the Django website, GitHub website, and other development package websites. Put simply, fewer users could have access to these tools.
But, I agree, this is not really the mailing list to discuss these matters.
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Larry Martell
Dec 11, 2017, 2:52:51 PM12/11/17
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On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Matthew Pava <Matthe...@iss.com> wrote:
>>> Please keep your political rhetoric and irresponsible scaremongering off this list.
>
>>> All the net neutrality repeal will do is restore some of the permissionless innovation that allowed the internet to blossom in the first place.
>
> Dear Larry,
> Please read what you just wrote. On the one hand, you asked Etienne not to share political rhetoric, and then you called Etienne's act one of irresponsible scaremongering. And then you had to have the last word in this discussion by sharing your own political rhetoric about the topic. That's not right, and I'm not going to sit by and let that happen.
>
> The better way to handle it would have been a personal message to Etienne asking that user not to post political rhetoric (in a nicer way than you just did) and not make that message public.
>
> So here's an article about Net Neutrality:
> https://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now
That article is from freepress.net, a very far left, statist group,
>>> Please keep your political rhetoric and irresponsible scaremongering off this list.
>
>>> All the net neutrality repeal will do is restore some of the permissionless innovation that allowed the internet to blossom in the first place.
>
> Dear Larry,
> Please read what you just wrote. On the one hand, you asked Etienne not to share political rhetoric, and then you called Etienne's act one of irresponsible scaremongering. And then you had to have the last word in this discussion by sharing your own political rhetoric about the topic. That's not right, and I'm not going to sit by and let that happen.
>
> The better way to handle it would have been a personal message to Etienne asking that user not to post political rhetoric (in a nicer way than you just did) and not make that message public.
>
> So here's an article about Net Neutrality:
> https://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now
that feels the government should regulate, control and tax every
aspect of your lives. We do not need more government regulation, we
need less. A free market is always better. Net Neutrality is
censorship, and it's crony capitalism.
mccc
Dec 12, 2017, 1:14:29 PM12/12/17
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I agree with Matthew's sentiment;
also, I'd like to point out that the words you (Larry) posted are not your own but are literally coming off of foxnews.com (found also on telecoms.com, by means of a "feature article" from a not-so-trustworthy consultancy group).
I do agree that the topic and the approach to the issue are not adequate for the group, but your (Larry's) attempt to "gain the high ground" fell _very_ short.
All the best,
Michele
Larry Martell
Dec 12, 2017, 1:21:43 PM12/12/17
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I did not read what I wrote on neither foxnews.com nor on telecoms.com
(the latter site I have never even heard of).
(the latter site I have never even heard of).
Jason
Dec 12, 2017, 1:38:24 PM12/12/17
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Larry, you're undermining your own position of keeping politics off this list. If you disagree, fine. But assuming its fine for you to spout your own political beliefs while claiming everything else doesn't belong here doesn't pass the smell test.
Mike Morris
Dec 12, 2017, 7:09:26 PM12/12/17
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Chris Seberino
Dec 13, 2017, 4:34:44 PM12/13/17
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