Re: [Django] #36335: Incorrect usage of "i.e." in topics/db/managers

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#36335: Incorrect usage of "i.e." in topics/db/managers
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Reporter: Kurt Klein | Owner: Kurt
Type: | Klein
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Documentation | Version: 5.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 0 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 1 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by Natalia Bidart):

* stage: Unreviewed => Accepted

Comment:

Hello Kurt, thanks for taking the time to create this ticket. I'm not a
native English speaker and the sentence reads well enough for me, though I
consulted an LLM about this (while I'm not a fan of them, I do find them
useful when it comes to clarifying language related inquiries). It said:

> Yes, i.e. is used correctly in that sentence, though e.g. might be more
appropriate depending on intent.
> Use i.e. (“id est”) to clarify or restate something precisely.
> Use e.g. (“exempli gratia”) to give one or more examples.

I guess this report is indeed about being strictly correct, thus I will
accept it, but wanted to mention that the current docs as they stand are
not necessarily incorrect.
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#36335: Incorrect usage of "i.e." in topics/db/managers
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Kurt Klein | Owner: Kurt
Type: | Klein
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Documentation | Version: 5.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: | Triage Stage: Ready for
| checkin
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 1 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by David Bogar):

* has_patch: 0 => 1
* stage: Accepted => Ready for checkin

Comment:

I agree this should be changed. Provided patch:
https://github.com/django/django/pull/19418
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#36335: Incorrect usage of "i.e." in topics/db/managers
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Kurt Klein | Owner: David
Type: | Bogar
Cleanup/optimization | Status: assigned
Component: Documentation | Version: 5.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 1 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by David Bogar):

* owner: Kurt Klein => David Bogar
* stage: Ready for checkin => Accepted

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#36335: Incorrect usage of "i.e." in topics/db/managers
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Kurt Klein | Owner: David
Type: | Bogar
Cleanup/optimization | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 5.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: fixed
Keywords: | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 1 | UI/UX: 0
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Changes (by GitHub <noreply@…>):

* resolution: => fixed
* status: assigned => closed

Comment:

In [changeset:"7b394b9988b986429a4da4e60416e0f08ff649e5" 7b394b9]:
{{{#!CommitTicketReference repository=""
revision="7b394b9988b986429a4da4e60416e0f08ff649e5"
Fixed #36335 -- Fixed typo in docs/topics/db/managers.txt.
}}}
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#36335: Incorrect usage of "i.e." in topics/db/managers
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Reporter: Kurt Klein | Owner: David
Type: | Bogar
Cleanup/optimization | Status: closed
Component: Documentation | Version: 5.2
Severity: Normal | Resolution: fixed
Keywords: | Triage Stage: Accepted
Has patch: 1 | Needs documentation: 0
Needs tests: 0 | Patch needs improvement: 0
Easy pickings: 1 | UI/UX: 0
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Comment (by Mariusz Felisiak <felisiak.mariusz@…>):

In [changeset:"c08764cb2e047b20728661ce8c17d0fca498b2cd" c08764c]:
{{{#!CommitTicketReference repository=""
revision="c08764cb2e047b20728661ce8c17d0fca498b2cd"
[5.2.x] Fixed #36335 -- Fixed typo in docs/topics/db/managers.txt.

Backport of 7b394b9988b986429a4da4e60416e0f08ff649e5 from main
}}}
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