Re: [DIYbio] Digest for diybio@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 1 topic

[TJ Katal]

i plan to create a three D printed house from wikihouse.cc tilado for 2000 dollars  and slap  a microscope inside chained to the wall. anyone can use it free. next im doin human controlled virtual reality through internet, thr robot will do the expeiraments bio, chem,  in an enclosed. facility with no outside or human contact. no chance of outbreaks. and its free, anyone can do it, and its all recorded in videogame format, so expeiraments can be learned and experience can be gained, until u r ready to control robot and do actual experiments. some ppl learn fastest with interaction

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Democratizing Science - What can we do?

Josiah Zayner <josiah...@gmail.com>: Sep 02 09:28AM -0700 I have been feeling a little angry lately because it seems like the ability for DIY Scientists to accomplish things is still difficult. This is noticeably seen through a lack of Scientific publications or data generated by us.   People in DIY Bio seem to be working towards something that doesn't seem possible because of the lack of resources, knowledge and tools. Papers, plasmids and strains that would be dirt cheap if the whole system wasn't run by profiteering gluttons($65 for a plasmid, seriously addgene? $200 for a strain at atcc). Academic scientists sit by and use the phrase "open science" as a motto of apathy. How long would publishers survive if scientists stopped citing and publishing in their journals? Or refused to pay publishing fees? And just posted data to their website instead? DIYers remain with no access.   At The ODIN <http://the-odin.com>(http://the-odin.com), I have been trying to provide cheap prices and single researcher size quantities to DIY Scientists to allow them to do experiments. After lots of contemplation, I want to move away from my job as a Scientist at NASA because I think big things can happen in DIY just like what came of the computer hackers in the 90s. I want to help that stuff happen by creating more resources and tutorials for people.   This is where I need your help.   In the next few months at The ODIN <http://the-odin.com>, we have plans to release a Codex of plasmids and bacterial strains(yeast maybe?) for cheap. We want people to have the resources they need. Sign-Up at http://wildtypevsmutant.com and let me know what you are looking for or need.   We are also planning a crowdfunding campaign to take cutting edge genetic engineering tools like CRISPR and make them accessible physically, intellectually and financially. We might be looking for some beta-testers soon. Again, Sign-Up at http://wildtypevsmutant.com to keep updated. (Also, let me know what you think of the video)   *I think that until genetic engineering arrives in many homes, what we do will just be scary and misunderstood. *At The ODIN, we want to create a conversation around "Why do people think mutants are bad when they are here to save us?", i.e. Wildtype vs Mutant. <http://wildtypevsmutant.com> I appreciate all the support people on the list have given The ODIN so far and I hope to continue to provide to the community through biting commentary and ad hoc Science.   Finally, to make DIY more successful get involved if you aren't already. Teach classes at your local hackerspace, if you can't, then write tutorials online(I would be glad to host them on The ODIN), mentor other DIYers or if you need a mentor contact me!   There is a little ways to go before DIYers can accomplish cutting edge Science so let's make this thing work, together.   Josiah Zayner, Ph.D. NASA Bioengineering Scientist The ODIN CEO

Alex <spid...@gmail.com>: Sep 02 01:57PM -0400 The big deterrent for me has always been cost. It's hard when everything that you do requires expensive equipment and then, on top of the expensive equipment, to make use of it you need to buy another $90 this and $50 worth of that and $100 this that everything else for every few times you want to use it. Oh, and in case you can manage all of that, you'll also have to befriend a local university or business or something just so you can get shipments of certain things.   It'd be great if this could all be made a little more accessible!   -Alex

Alex <spid...@gmail.com>: Sep 02 01:59PM -0400 Also, I think it's been a long time since I've checked out The ODIN. It looks like it's got some awesome stuff!   -Alex

Gordana Ostojic <gordana....@gmail.com>: Sep 02 11:02AM -0700 > Question: what about regulations? It seems that you need special clearance > to work with GM. Are you going to be in legal trouble for selling CRISPR > kit?   Advice: Do not leave academia. You can do everything that you want to do there and people will pay more attention if you have a nice title (aim for tenure).   Regarding the GM, I think the main problem is not GM but our lack of knowledge and instrumentation to monitor and control living organisms. When we are able to measure and understand cells/organisms in real time in a big organism (means measure all important expression proteins at desired points inside the body) and develop a method to control them, then the fear will diminish. So 50-100 years.

Josiah Zayner <josiah...@gmail.com>: Sep 02 11:58AM -0700 No regulations in the US regarding genetic modification at home. Alot of companies sell CRISPR kits and as far as I can tell there is no licensing agreement occurring.   Thanks for the advice but kindly, I will not listen to it. One cannot do whatever they want in academia, they can only do whatever the people who are paying them or giving them grants or publishing them, want. It is not so much about having attention as it is accomplishing things and building things.     On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 11:02:21 AM UTC-7, Gordana Ostojic wrote:

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