Rnd 3030 - FITCH Time to vote

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Johnb - co.uk

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Jun 14, 2020, 9:14:54 AM6/14/20
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Dear people,

I waited a bit - but below are 11 definitions for FITCH Please vote for two of them as a public vote (ie to the group) choose what you think might be the correct definition, alternatively, choose something that takes your fancy

Deadline will be 2200 GMT on Monday

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1              In basket-making, a kind of plait in which two canes or osiers are twisted together in the same direction so as to enclose a crossing weft at each half-turn

2               A brothel. [Obs.]

3               A person or thing not highly regarded

4               An attack of illness (obs., N. Yorks.)

5               Target; bullseye

6              A structure composed of rod members arranged to form one or more triangles which are connected rigidly or by pins at joints. 

7              A structure composed of rod members arranged to form one or more triangles which are connected rigidly or by pins at joints. 

8             A concave horizontal lathe used in producing bowls and cups

9             [Architecture] a spacer used to attach wooden panelling to a brick or stone wall, leaving an air space.

10            In joinery, to trim off sharp edges.

11            A beehive made of twisted straw with movable frames.



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Efrem G Mallach

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Jun 14, 2020, 9:19:20 AM6/14/20
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John,

I don't see my definition, which you acknowledged in your progress report, but I do see two identical definitions as nos. 6 and 7. Could one of them have been pasted over mine?

Efrem

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France International/Mike Shefler

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Jun 14, 2020, 9:24:45 AM6/14/20
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Wondering why you didn't combine  6 an 7.;-)

Judy Madnick

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Jun 14, 2020, 9:37:22 AM6/14/20
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Looks more like a duplication.
 
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Debbie

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Jun 14, 2020, 10:31:53 AM6/14/20
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I think we all need to wait a bit.

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Paul Keating

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Jun 14, 2020, 11:26:43 AM6/14/20
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Wait for ... ?

No point in substituting the missing fake def for the copy. We already know it's fake, whatever it is.

We could declare a redeal, with defs substituted or recycled as the submitter chooses. But any def appearing fresh in the redeal would be most likely fake.

The alternative is to proceed with all votes for either of the duplicates assigned to one of them.

P

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Efrem G Mallach

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Jun 14, 2020, 11:33:21 AM6/14/20
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How do we know that? We know, or can reasonably surmise, that the duplicated definition was inadvertently pasted over another. We have no way of knowing whether the one so erased was real or fake. I suggest that John publish a corrected list, with the erased definition restored to its place, and we vote on that. As it is, it is possible that the erased one is real, so we could possibly be unable to vote for the real definition.

Efrem

Johnb - co.uk

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Jun 14, 2020, 11:51:12 AM6/14/20
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Don't know who this is - please see my answer to Efrem above

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Johnb - co.uk

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Jun 14, 2020, 11:51:31 AM6/14/20
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True

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Johnb - co.uk

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Jun 14, 2020, 12:00:41 PM6/14/20
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Ah now

I do not see how I can republish - interesting - has this happened before? and if so what happened?

meanwhile, "da dealah is god"

and until otherwise advised we go ahead with what we have... how I score is my problem but consider that I forgot to amalgamate 6 and 7


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Efrem G Mallach

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Jun 14, 2020, 12:04:45 PM6/14/20
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I don't see why you can't. We know that either definition 6 or 7 was inadvertently replaced by the duplicated one. We do not know, unless I'm missing something obvious (wouldn't be the first time!) if the definition that was so replaced was real or fake. Just publish a list that has the replaced definition restored to its rightful place. Since nobody has voted yet, and there have been no clues to the correct definition, no harm will be done.

Efrem

Johnb - co.uk

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Jun 14, 2020, 12:37:22 PM6/14/20
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Ah now

I do not see how I can republish - interesting - has this happened before? and if so what happened?

meanwhile, "da dealah is god"

and until otherwise advised we go ahead with what we have... how I score is my problem but consider that I forgot to amalgamate 6 and 7


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Stephen Dixon

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Jun 14, 2020, 1:01:39 PM6/14/20
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Oh yeah! That is just one of the errors I made in my super-botched dealing of Chamfer in Round 28.

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Judy Madnick

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Jun 14, 2020, 1:22:15 PM6/14/20
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Okay, I'll vote.  I wonder whether the duplicate definitions are real or fake!!
 
I'll go with 6 (or 7 if you prefer!) and 9.
 

6   A structure composed of rod members arranged to form one or more triangles which are connected rigidly or by pins at joints. 
 

9   [Architecture] a spacer used to attach wooden panelling to a brick or stone wall, leaving an air space.
 

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Daniel B Widdis

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Jun 14, 2020, 1:34:18 PM6/14/20
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I’ll have the weft and the wight.

 

1 and 3.

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ALAN MALLACH

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Jun 14, 2020, 2:56:07 PM6/14/20
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I'll go with 1 and 9. 
Alan

Shani Naylor

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Jun 14, 2020, 3:21:22 PM6/14/20
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Gosh Stephen! How many decades ago was that? It must have been extremely traumatic to have remembered it all these years. 
I do recall a round a few years back when the dealer forgot to include the real def in the list. It was very funny for the rest of us...

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Shani Naylor

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Jun 14, 2020, 3:29:26 PM6/14/20
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Just adding, it was funny because the dealer was Keith & he was a funny guy.


Paul Keating

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:01:10 PM6/14/20
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Efrem, 

We do have a way of knowing that the pasted-over def was fake, because you posted a public message pointing out that your acknowledged def had been apparently misplaced. So the overwhelming probability is that it was your def that went missing. 

P


Paul Keating

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:03:49 PM6/14/20
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I vote for the mystifying 1 and the only slightly implausible 9.

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Mike Shefler

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:06:34 PM6/14/20
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I'll vote for 6 and 7. And if that's the correct def, I'll expect to get 4 points.

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Efrem G Mallach

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:14:40 PM6/14/20
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Ah, yes, Paul, so I did. I had completely forgotten that. It's almost certainly mine that was replaced by the inadvertent paste.

I will give myself three dope-slaps as punishment.

Efrem

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Debbie

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:30:47 PM6/14/20
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1 and 9 if this is the correct thread to vote in. 

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Debbie

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:32:37 PM6/14/20
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Paul, I said "wait" in hopes that John would come back and comment on the problem, which he did. 

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Efrem G Mallach

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:33:42 PM6/14/20
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Vox pop: 1 and 9. 

Efrem

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On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Johnb - co.uk <jo...@john-barrs.co.uk> wrote:

Dear people,

I waited a bit - but below are 11 definitions for FITCH Please vote for two of them as a public vote (ie to the group) choose what you think might be the correct definition, alternatively, choose something that takes your fancy

Deadline will be 2200 GMT on Monday

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JohnnyB

1              In basket-making, a kind of plait in which two canes or osiers are twisted together in the same direction so as to enclose a crossing weft at each half-turn

9             [Architecture] a spacer used to attach wooden panelling to a brick or stone wall, leaving an air space.


Judy Madnick

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:34:01 PM6/14/20
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I should probably withdraw my votes and reconsider. <sigh>
 
Judy
 
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Efrem, 

We do have a way of knowing that the pasted-over def was fake, because you posted a public message pointing out that your acknowledged def had been apparently misplaced. So the overwhelming probability is that it was your def that went missing. 

P


On Sun, 14 Jun 2020, 17:33 Efrem G Mallach, <efrem....@gmail.com> wrote:
How do we know that? We know, or can reasonably surmise, that the duplicated definition was inadvertently pasted over another. We have no way of knowing whether the one so erased was real or fake. I suggest that John publish a corrected list, with the erased definition restored to its place, and we vote on that. As it is, it is possible that the erased one is real, so we could possibly be unable to vote for the real definition.

Efrem

On Jun 14, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Paul Keating <dixo...@boargules.com> wrote:

Wait for ... ?

No point in substituting the missing fake def for the copy. We already know it's fake, whatever it is.

We could declare a redeal, with defs substituted or recycled as the submitter chooses. But any def appearing fresh in the redeal would be most likely fake.

The alternative is to proceed with all votes for either of the duplicates assigned to one of them.

P

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020, 16:31 Debbie, <chow...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we all need to wait a bit.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 9:37 AM Judy Madnick <jmad...@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks more like a duplication.
 
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Wondering why you didn't combine  6 an 7.;-)

On 6/14/2020 9:14 AM, Johnb - co.uk wrote:

Dear people,

I waited a bit - but below are 11 definitions for FITCH Please vote for two of them as a public vote (ie to the group) choose what you think might be the correct definition, alternatively, choose something that takes your fancy

Deadline will be 2200 GMT on Monday

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JohnnyB

 

1              In basket-making, a kind of plait in which two canes or osiers are twisted together in the same direction so as to enclose a crossing weft at each half-turn

2               A brothel. [Obs.]

3               A person or thing not highly regarded

4               An attack of illness (obs., N. Yorks.)

5               Target; bullseye

6              A structure composed of rod members arranged to form one or more triangles which are connected rigidly or by pins at joints. 

7              A structure composed of rod members arranged to form one or more triangles which are connected rigidly or by pins at joints. 

8             A concave horizontal lathe used in producing bowls and cups

9             [Architecture] a spacer used to attach wooden panelling to a brick or stone wall, leaving an air space.

10            In joinery, to trim off sharp edges.

 

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Tim Lodge

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Jun 14, 2020, 5:43:13 PM6/14/20
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I'll go for 5 and 6/7.

5               Target; bullseye

6              A structure composed of rod members arranged to form one or more triangles which are connected rigidly or by pins at joints.
 
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Daniel B Widdis

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Jun 14, 2020, 11:11:27 PM6/14/20
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You’re just trying to make the scorekeeper’s job harder in the “combine the votes” case, aren’t you.

 

Oh, wait….

 

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Shani Naylor

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Jun 15, 2020, 12:08:28 AM6/15/20
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I'll try 4 & 10.



On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, 1:14 AM Johnb - co.uk, <jo...@john-barrs.co.uk> wrote:

Dear people,

I waited a bit - but below are 11 definitions for FITCH Please vote for two of them as a public vote (ie to the group) choose what you think might be the correct definition, alternatively, choose something that takes your fancy

Deadline will be 2200 GMT on Monday

--
JohnnyB

1              In basket-making, a kind of plait in which two canes or osiers are twisted together in the same direction so as to enclose a crossing weft at each half-turn

2               A brothel. [Obs.]

3               A person or thing not highly regarded

4               An attack of illness (obs., N. Yorks.)

5               Target; bullseye

6              A structure composed of rod members arranged to form one or more triangles which are connected rigidly or by pins at joints. 

7              A structure composed of rod members arranged to form one or more triangles which are connected rigidly or by pins at joints. 

8             A concave horizontal lathe used in producing bowls and cups

9             [Architecture] a spacer used to attach wooden panelling to a brick or stone wall, leaving an air space.

10            In joinery, to trim off sharp edges.

11            A beehive made of twisted straw with movable frames.



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Ryan McGill

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Jun 15, 2020, 3:21:52 AM6/15/20
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8 & 11, I guess.

Christopher Carson

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Jun 15, 2020, 6:42:57 AM6/15/20
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Vox Pop for me.

 

1 and 9

 

Chris

 

Dave Cunningham

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Jun 15, 2020, 11:00:57 AM6/15/20
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2 and 11 for Mr. Abercrombie.

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